# 1 week of p83

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/1-week-of-p83/1928>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [February 7, 2007, 1:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/1-week-of-p83/1928 "2007-02-07T01:25:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 8:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/1-week-of-p83/1928/21 "2007-06-12T08:22:29Z")

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> [@MarkL](#):
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> So, here it is next morning, and I’m waking up making those facial-cranial muscular gestures and my hearing still feels amped, tuned.
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> And now I am thinking of [toilofday’s thread](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/self-conditioning-of-personality/2429/1) on making more or less permanent / structural changes in personality – which I think of as changes in behavior – based on learning with pheros. Changing **perception** could certainly be a key predecessor to changing behavior and personality and a “Just a few shots of P83 changed the way I listen to people forever” would be a classic example of toil’s proposed theory.
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> **I mention this, because unless I am mistaken it sure feels like the P83 is dissipated, but the behavior change is one I’m liking and rehearsing – it’s a keeper.**
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> PS: I had P83 / 2.5 mcg in a to-go with no additional scent. I get a hint of a rotting/aging meat aroma from P83, but I stop sensing it after a minute.

Funnily enough, it has been like 30+ hours since my last application of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) (I tried it at 50-75 mcg for a few days in a row) and I am still feeling some kind of heightened sensitivity to sound and music. I am not sure I like it that much as I am a little sensitive to sounds to begin with but it is interesting.

Visionary

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**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 11:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/1-week-of-p83/1928/22 "2007-06-12T11:13:03Z")

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> [@rade](#):
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> If this is true, how do feel about testing these putatives out? Is there a chance they can change your behaviour against your personal wants and desires, in a negative way?
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> Rade

I suppose something could change behaviour against your wishes – 'roid rage might be a good example of a side effect that I suspect most people would not choose. Addiction (real physical dependency) would be another good example, so I haven’t tried crack, thank you.

But, I speculate this way: most chemicals – and these are synthetic chemicals we’re speaking of – of the sort we’re speaking of (analogues of bodily secretions) don’t have an insidious nature.

They can open behavioral doors, but once the effect passes, it is up to us to choose whether we want to rehearse and learn and adopt the behaviors, or to reject the behaviors.

Cheers

Note: This made sense when I wrote it. YMMV

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