# 1082 days of pheromone testing. The end conclusion.

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 6, 2009, 2:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/1082-days-of-pheromone-testing-the-end-conclusion/29622 "2009-06-06T02:11:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 2:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/1082-days-of-pheromone-testing-the-end-conclusion/29622/1 "2009-06-06T02:11:41Z")

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I haven’t worn [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) everyday, but often. 154 nights out with TUTH.

The end conclusion is that:

Without TUTH I’m a nobody at the club. Most males in the clubs are too shy and watch the girls from afar, I’m part of this “too shy” gang of males at the club. I also live in a place where it is socially unacceptable to talk to strangers.

With TUTH I can act like all the other fools, very shy, and be highly successful.

The best way to apply TUTH is to use a glass dropper. Screw on droppers will screw on perfectly to the TUTH bottle.

You should apply 1 drop of TUTH and wait a few minutes for it to dry.

You can expect to be asked to have sex by your best friend’s sister, reminded about past sexual encounters by newly re interested females you once slept with, you can expect unknown girls to act touchy feely and have that “fuck the shit out of me” face.

TUTH works, no dought about it.

Once the female’s sexual interest is dying down from the first TUTH drop, apply the second TUTH drop. It is important not to imediatly run back to your target girl because she will start “shit testing” you to the extreme were you won’t be able to react consitently. Sometimes you will pass the “shit test” and it’ll lead to an imidiate sexual encounter. Often not. I have found that waiting a little for the TUTH to die down will allow you to receive a less pronounced “shit test”. Remember that the fresh drop of TUTH can cause some exagerated emotional responses from the target female.

Also, go to moores clothing for men, men’s clothing stores (even if you are 21 like myself), buy yourself some quality clothing were you feel hansom (If you are currently imagining yourself in a tuxedo, you REALLY need to go to moores or a men’s clothing store because they don’t only sell tuxedos). Women sense these things, they sense that you know you are wearing a quality belt, they sense that you know your socks are “nice socks from moores”. Women have these senses. The way you look is very important. Nice leather shoes, quality black or beige pants. A nice formal shirt. A nice writs watch. A quality diet. Well brushed teeth with toothsoap ([YouTube - Tooth Soap](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahJljKaw0rM)).

There are so many factors involved. Remember to have fun in the process. If you do all this and do not manage to get your target female. At least you prepared the grounds for your next night out. Next time you go out, more girls will know you, more guys will shake your hand. Eventually you will be somebody.

Your friend,

Thomas Trace Mineral Lavoie

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**Author:** ![gitsmw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85e7bf/32.png) [@gitsmw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gitsmw)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 3:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/1082-days-of-pheromone-testing-the-end-conclusion/29622/2 "2009-06-06T03:43:03Z")

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It’s strange that you are into pickup artist stuff like the mystery method and yet you still think your shirt, belt, hell even SOCKS matter.

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**Author:** ![future777](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/future777/32/2258_2.png) [@future777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/future777)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 4:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/1082-days-of-pheromone-testing-the-end-conclusion/29622/3 "2009-06-06T04:12:47Z")

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Moores does carry great socks..

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**Author:** ![gitsmw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85e7bf/32.png) [@gitsmw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gitsmw)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 4:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/1082-days-of-pheromone-testing-the-end-conclusion/29622/4 "2009-06-06T04:48:21Z")

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Well, I’ll give you guys that 🙂

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**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/1082-days-of-pheromone-testing-the-end-conclusion/29622/5 "2009-06-06T16:46:46Z")

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> [@gitsmw](#):
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> It’s strange that you are into pickup artist stuff like the mystery method and yet you still think your shirt, belt, hell even SOCKS matter.

They do, you cant go around looking like a bum or some reject who doesnt know how to dress. But this is mainly around the younger female crowd; all part of the game we have to play at this age. Im sure older women have learned to see past that.

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**Author:** ![strato](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/strato/32/2461_2.png) [@strato](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/strato)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/1082-days-of-pheromone-testing-the-end-conclusion/29622/6 "2009-06-06T19:27:30Z")

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Thomaslavoie, where do you apply it? Are you sure dropping works better than spraying? I like the idea…

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**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 11:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/1082-days-of-pheromone-testing-the-end-conclusion/29622/7 "2009-06-06T23:04:49Z")

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> [@strato](#):
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> Thomaslavoie, where do you apply it? Are you sure dropping works better than spraying? I like the idea…

I was applying (On 50+ different occasions) the drop on my neck and rubbing it in with both of my wrists.

Yes, I am sure dropping works better than spraying.

I think spraying TUTH 2.5mcg is too strong, same goes for 5.0 and 7.5.  
My male friend no. 1 thinks spraying is too strong with TUTH  
My male friend no. 2 thinks spraying is too strong with TUTH  
My female stripper friend thinks spraying is too strong with AMMO and TUTH.  
Many times while seeing her in the clubs, she would always say “Thomas, you applied too much, go for 1/4 that amount” even after having applied 1 spray.

On a side note: MX102 is such a good product, but it is too strong by the spray, even too strong by the drop! I have found that dipping a toothpick into the bottle and rubbing it on my neck gives better results. A single spray of MX102 makes everyone leave in intimidation as fast as they can politely.

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**Author:** ![M\_P](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/m_p/32/1633_2.png) [@M\_P](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_P)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 11:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/1082-days-of-pheromone-testing-the-end-conclusion/29622/8 "2009-06-06T23:39:54Z")

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Hmm…using a drop is an excellent idea. I wonder how much -none that works out to per drop?

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**Author:** ![gitsmw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85e7bf/32.png) [@gitsmw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gitsmw)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2009, 12:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/1082-days-of-pheromone-testing-the-end-conclusion/29622/9 "2009-06-07T00:06:33Z")

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> [@Eldros](#):
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> They do, you cant go around looking like a bum or some reject who doesnt know how to dress. But this is mainly around the younger female crowd; all part of the game we have to play at this age.

There has been zero correlation between what I’m wearing and my success. Absolutely zero correlation.

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2009, 10:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/1082-days-of-pheromone-testing-the-end-conclusion/29622/10 "2009-06-07T10:48:10Z")

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Actually clothing says a lot about your lifestyle: class, education, values, personal income, artistic sense, age and how you feel about yourself. I’m not talking about formal wear but clothing in general. Some guys wanna look like Joe the plumber and others a metromale. It’s part of their persona. Of course the details of what is good or bad vary considerably depending on class and culture. Ivy League won’t cut it at a Goth gathering but you might be all the rage at TGIF. And women are generally more observant of choice of clothing than men. Personally I find lifestyle compatibility to be the most important aspect of a relationship. And, as shallow as it may seem, I would have a difficult time in a long term relationship with a body jewelry encrusted and tatt covered goth babe all in black–no matter how good in bed she was. I guess I have a dress code for my GFs!

As somebody whom does interviewing of high level admin and other professionals, I consider clothing an important part of the first impression. Of course that first impression must be followed up with substance. We figure poorly dressed applicants either don’t give a damn or are social retards. Not hiring material. A couple weeks ago we interviewed a guy that looked like he slept in his clothing for a week! A friggen PhD and a total goofball. Whatever, sloppy threads are often reflected in other aspects of their profession: writing, speech and organization.

And, sheesh, if you wanna pick up women in hot clubs, you gonna wear the stylish threads. They have a friggen dress code and the damn bouncer makes sure you have the right kind or shoes, pants, etc., or you don’t get in!

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**Author:** ![fantisto](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fantisto/32/2102_2.png) [@fantisto](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fantisto)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2009, 11:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/1082-days-of-pheromone-testing-the-end-conclusion/29622/11 "2009-06-07T11:29:52Z")

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> [@Gegogi](#):
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> Actually clothing says a lot about your lifestyle: class, education, values, personal income, artistic sense, age and how you feel about yourself. I’m not talking about formal wear but clothing in general. Some guys wanna look like Joe the plumber and others a metromale. It’s part of their persona. Of course the details of what is good or bad vary considerably depending on class and culture. Ivy League won’t cut it at a Goth gathering but you might be all the rage at TGIF. And women are generally more observant of choice of clothing than men. Personally I find lifestyle compatibility to be the most important aspect of a relationship. And, as shallow as it may seem, I would have a difficult time in a long term relationship with a body jewelry encrusted and tatt covered goth babe all in black–no matter how good in bed she was. I guess I have a dress code for my GFs!
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> As somebody whom does interviewing of high level admin and other professionals, I consider clothing an important part of the first impression. Of course that first impression must be followed up with substance. We figure poorly dressed applicants either don’t give a damn or are social retards. Not hiring material. A couple weeks ago we interviewed a guy that looked like he slept in his clothing for a week! A friggen PhD and a total goofball. Whatever, sloppy threads are often reflected in other aspects of their profession: writing, speech and organization.
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> And, sheesh, if you wanna pick up women in hot clubs, you gonna wear the stylish threads. They have a friggen dress code and the damn bouncer makes sure you have the right kind or shoes, pants, etc., or you don’t get in!

you are right Gegogi, great explaination.  
Look stand @ No 1, even before your approach to them, and might be even before your pheros affects them.

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**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2009, 5:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/1082-days-of-pheromone-testing-the-end-conclusion/29622/12 "2009-06-07T17:56:14Z")

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“Costly thy habit as thy purse can buy,  
But not express’d in fancy; rich, not gaudy;  
For the apparel oft proclaims the man.”

Advice to the young prince Hamlet

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**Author:** ![gitsmw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85e7bf/32.png) [@gitsmw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gitsmw)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/1082-days-of-pheromone-testing-the-end-conclusion/29622/13 "2009-06-07T20:58:59Z")

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The social conditioning is strong here.

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 2:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/1082-days-of-pheromone-testing-the-end-conclusion/29622/14 "2009-06-08T02:20:42Z")

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> [@gitsmw](#):
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> The social conditioning is strong here.

Of course it’s all about the right social conditioning for success and happiness in life. Social conditioning is a huge part of what separates man from lower animals. It’s also something parents paid a lot of money for by sending their kids to the finest private schools and colleges. Of course ultimately it is the total person that counts, not just your friggen threads. The silk purse on a pig does not a refined gentleman make. Nevertheless, fashion is one of the most defining and interesting aspects of our culture.

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**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 4:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/1082-days-of-pheromone-testing-the-end-conclusion/29622/15 "2009-06-08T16:38:37Z")

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> [@gitsmw](#):
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> There has been zero correlation between what I’m wearing and my success. Absolutely zero correlation.

Perhaps that is because you consistently wear clothes that are both congruent to the situation you are picking up in and congruent to your own personality.

Also I bet you don’t have a huge collection of clothing which doesn’t fit… especially clothing that doesn’t fit which you wear out on a regular basis.

Of course the other option is that you’ve purposely gone out wearing clothes that don’t fit the situation, your personality and/or your body and have no seen a difference in results simply because you don’t get any or you evaluate results with a baseline quality that lies below the point where clothes make any difference at all (In other words… there ARE some girls you can approach looking like a hobo and will still come home with you… )

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 5:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/1082-days-of-pheromone-testing-the-end-conclusion/29622/16 "2009-06-09T05:59:51Z")

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> [@Gegogi](#):
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> As somebody whom does interviewing of high level admin and other professionals, I consider clothing an important part of the first impression.

It’s driving me crazy!!! I can’t help it!
