# 15-year pheromone user sees no reaction from Alpha 314: advice on dose and use

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [July 14, 2010, 2:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/15-year-pheromone-user-sees-no-reaction-from-alpha-314-advice-on-dose-and-use/40018 "2010-07-14T02:51:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mitsubishiman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@Mitsubishiman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mitsubishiman)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 2:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/15-year-pheromone-user-sees-no-reaction-from-alpha-314-advice-on-dose-and-use/40018/1 "2010-07-14T02:51:33Z")

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Hello Folks, I have been using [Pheromone Cologne](https://a314.com/shop/) for 15 plus years, I am still trying to find out what happened to LeNatural – which was by far the best ever produced, I tried several other products before I came to this forum, Pherlure – which I truly believe is isopropyl alcohol because it has zero effect, so under the advice of this forum I purchased a bottle of Alpha 314, I followed the instructions on this site, 2 drops on the wrist rub together make a pass on the neck, and within ten minutes I entered a location where testing should be promising, I am sorry to say I have repeated this scenario a dozen times with varying conditions and I have not seen any real reaction, perhaps I should not be comparing this to LeNatural – which complete strangers (women) would blurt out “wow you smell great” and I saw all of the signs, they were playing with their hair, fidgeting with their buttons, the raspy voice, and the tail tail sign – when you walk away very quickly they follow you or stare from across the room with that please come back look, I recently tried Mystic Aura, it comes in a roll on bottle – all I did was roll it across the brim of my hat a couple of times and I went to a location I frequent – With My Wife, there were 3 women in the place that we know and within 10 minutes they were hovering in until it was me my wife and 3 other women in a 5 foot circle, and they were all acting like they were competing for position, I have been in the same situation with the same women before and since without anything on and the results were as if I was not even there, I have an advantage that I am married an I can discreetly test products out on my wife, and I am sorry to say that A314 does not appear to have any real effect as stated, so I am asking this forum to be real honest and state facts not advertising.

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**Author:** ![Terpines](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@Terpines](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Terpines)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 3:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/15-year-pheromone-user-sees-no-reaction-from-alpha-314-advice-on-dose-and-use/40018/2 "2010-07-14T03:07:52Z")

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If your married, excuse me asking and I mean no disrespect. Why do you wanna put your wife in a situation where she feels like her friends are competing for you?

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**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 3:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/15-year-pheromone-user-sees-no-reaction-from-alpha-314-advice-on-dose-and-use/40018/3 "2010-07-14T03:08:55Z")

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I dont think theres one person here that could simply state a fact about A314 including yourself. The only facts are the contents themselves, the volume its in, and the fact it comes in a cobalt bottle that administers drops.

If your not satisfied with A314 then go and proceed with getting your money back. The staff is very helpful and I’m sure it won’t be too long before you get your refund.

The facts are:

It is a concentrated Androsterone product in oil base with other molecules in it as well.  
It comes in 10 milliliters.

Have you even tried to maybe contact Steve or maybe report on your actual failures with the product?

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 3:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/15-year-pheromone-user-sees-no-reaction-from-alpha-314-advice-on-dose-and-use/40018/4 "2010-07-14T03:35:13Z")

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A314 is more of a professional status enhancement, idea for anyone needing respectful communication and prompt following of orders. It’s the perfect signature for managers, foremen, sergeants, project leaders, chairmen, etc. It’s not so great for socializing or dating due to its standoffish and slightly intimidating vibe. Of course you can sweeten and tame it with socials like TAA and nols, or horn it up with androstenone. But as a standalone you’ll have to work hard to not be seen as “the man” (“the man” as in “stick it to the man”). Wearing A314 is sorta like hanging with the boss or the sheriff. You’ll get respectful interaction but will eat lunch alone…

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**Author:** ![Mitsubishiman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@Mitsubishiman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mitsubishiman)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 4:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/15-year-pheromone-user-sees-no-reaction-from-alpha-314-advice-on-dose-and-use/40018/5 "2010-07-14T04:02:21Z")

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> [@Terpines](#):
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> If your married, excuse me asking and I mean no disrespect. Why do you wanna put your wife in a situation where she feels like her friends are competing for you?

After you have been married more than 15 years you will understand a lot more

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**Author:** ![hammeroflove99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/9de053/32.png) [@hammeroflove99](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hammeroflove99)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 5:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/15-year-pheromone-user-sees-no-reaction-from-alpha-314-advice-on-dose-and-use/40018/6 "2010-07-14T05:35:00Z")

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A314 is great for just about anything, but its results are harder to notice than say something like TUTH. If you read its description it states this also. Its a pheromone bomb that gains huge amounts of respect and trust with subtle hits of attraction.

The attraction part may be down played due to the strong vibe it puts off can actually scare women away if not buffered with IS or a nol. I have been wearing A314 for a few months now and women like me from a far but seem shy and nervous when Im close. Men get out of the way or ask if they can help you.

If you want something with blatant hits try TUTH, AMMO, or MX297 (yes I know I am plugging this cause it rocks)

You mentioned a product that you found a long time ago that worked really well… the truth is that androtics has in my opinion the best chemist in the field of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) producing their products.

So what ever was in that product you bought is most likely produced by androtics its just a matter of finding it.

I mentioned this in the store feedback forum but androtics is all about QUALITY.

I know a fair amount about chemistry, having done a reasonable amount of workups and just because to people use the same reagents and procedure does not mean they come out with the same product.

Look around the forum and other websites, do some research, you will most likely come to the same conclusion that many people here have… Androtics is the company.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 5:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/15-year-pheromone-user-sees-no-reaction-from-alpha-314-advice-on-dose-and-use/40018/7 "2010-07-14T05:59:46Z")

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> [@Mitsubishiman](#):
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> Hello Folks, I have been using Pheromone Cologne for 15 plus years, I am still trying to find out what happened to LeNatural – which was by far the best ever produced, I tried several other products before I came to this forum, Pherlure – which I truly believe is isopropyl alcohol because it has zero effect, so under the advice of this forum I purchased a bottle of Alpha 314, I followed the instructions on this site, 2 drops on the wrist rub together make a pass on the neck, and within ten minutes I entered a location where testing should be promising, I am sorry to say I have repeated this scenario a dozen times with varying conditions and I have not seen any real reaction, perhaps I should not be comparing this to LeNatural – which complete strangers (women) would blurt out “wow you smell great” and I saw all of the signs, they were playing with their hair, fidgeting with their buttons, the raspy voice, and the tail tail sign – when you walk away very quickly they follow you or stare from across the room with that please come back look, I recently tried Mystic Aura, it comes in a roll on bottle – all I did was roll it across the brim of my hat a couple of times and I went to a location I frequent – With My Wife, there were 3 women in the place that we know and within 10 minutes they were hovering in until it was me my wife and 3 other women in a 5 foot circle, and they were all acting like they were competing for position, I have been in the same situation with the same women before and since without anything on and the results were as if I was not even there, I have an advantage that I am married an I can discreetly test products out on my wife, and I am sorry to say that A314 does not appear to have any real effect as stated, so I am asking this forum to be real honest and state facts not advertising.

Really? Where did you see those instructions and from who? If you were getting the ghost effect from A314 it sounds as if you OD’d. In other words it might have just been too powerful and therefore overpowered your own self. You out ALPHA’d yourself with A314.

I’m sure I can help, or issue you a full refund if its just too ALPHA for you. It happens so whatever I need to do to make it right, I’ll be happy to do it.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 6:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/15-year-pheromone-user-sees-no-reaction-from-alpha-314-advice-on-dose-and-use/40018/8 "2010-07-14T06:11:49Z")

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> [@Mitsubishiman](#):
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> After you have been married more than 15 years you will understand a lot more

Got to admit, I’ll never understand. Not sure why anyone would get married in the first place, and then after 1 day or 15 years want to have wife’s friends competing against the woman I said I would love till death-LOL. 😕. Why get married, but that’s just my philosophy. 😛

I’m willing to help you though and if I can’t we will honor the guarantee. That’s guaranteed 😃!

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 6:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/15-year-pheromone-user-sees-no-reaction-from-alpha-314-advice-on-dose-and-use/40018/9 "2010-07-14T06:11:57Z")

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I’ve mentioned this point in other threads but here it goes again.  
A314 works amazingly. But it is a slow burn product. It diffuses slower being an oil base than say an alcohol based spray would. But beyond that is it’s intent. It’s a status, value and respect oriented product, not an attraction product. It CAN attract, but as a side effect of the success vibe it carries. The main “problem” with that, if you can call it a problem at all is that raw physical attraction comes easy and happens almost instantly. How long does it take to feel attraction for someone? For most people it begins on visual contact, even before you “meet” the person.  
Now, how long does it take for you to respect a person?, particularly enough to position them in a position of leadership over you? You see, that’s a bit trickier.  
With strangers, A314 is part of that all important first impression and as long as you don’t muck it up, they’ll see you as being a man worthy of respect, even admiration. A natural born leader type of man. With people that already know you, it takes a bit longer. I’ve sprayed [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), TuTH, and MX301 and gotten some pretty obvious hits from women that have known me for years. I was ready to give up on A314 after almost two weeks of use when I stopped and looked back on the past two weeks. It was slow and subtle but little by little people around me started acting a little different. They asked for my opinion more often, and it carried more weight. People would seek my approval and validation more often. It’s not going to cause women to overtly begin flirting (though that can happen) but women will be more likely to see you as a high value, high status alpha male type…a “real good catch” and will certainly be more receptive to your advances.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 6:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/15-year-pheromone-user-sees-no-reaction-from-alpha-314-advice-on-dose-and-use/40018/10 "2010-07-14T06:23:22Z")

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Hi There.

I remember your intro and us talking about Lenatural. Lenatural was just a cologne with anol in it. Anol does what you descibed, makes people hover, open up and talk to you more.

Mystic Aura is concentrated anone. Similar to TUTH or Raw Power. Its a sexual attractant

A314 is an Alpha mix. Its to increase your status. It can be intimidating therefore women will not react the same way they do to anol or anone but sort of stand back in awe. You have to lead with it.

The instructions say 1 to 7 drops not 2 drops. Many users in the forum tell you to start with 2 and work up till you find your sweet spot.

Of course they do not work the same they are all different products with very different molecules in them. As a veteran pheromone user I am sure you know there are many different pheromones all evoking different responses. Comparing the results of lenatural or Mystic Aura to A314 and saying your disappointed in the results is like saying you used a apple to make orange juice and it didnt work so your disappointed. If you want apple juice buy apples.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 9:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/15-year-pheromone-user-sees-no-reaction-from-alpha-314-advice-on-dose-and-use/40018/11 "2010-07-14T09:40:13Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> If you want apple juice buy apples.

True Wisdom!

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**Author:** ![fishdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4bbf92/32.png) [@fishdude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fishdude)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 2:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/15-year-pheromone-user-sees-no-reaction-from-alpha-314-advice-on-dose-and-use/40018/12 "2010-07-14T14:15:49Z")

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I picked up some A314 about 5 years ago. Never heard of this forum at that time and did not use the product properly. After two weeks I threw it out! Big mistake, if I had used it consistantly for the last 5 (recently started again Nov 2009) I would be way ahead of the game.
