# 19 y/o recently single Michigander student

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/19-y-o-recently-single-michigander-student/21021>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [October 8, 2008, 4:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/19-y-o-recently-single-michigander-student/21021 "2008-10-08T04:32:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![YpsiAdam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e95f7d/32.png) [@YpsiAdam](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/YpsiAdam)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 4:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/19-y-o-recently-single-michigander-student/21021/1 "2008-10-08T04:32:56Z")

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Hello,

I’m 19 years old, 20 in January. I’m originally from Minnesota, but I’m going to school at Eastern  
Michigan University in Ypsilanti, Michigan, where I’m a sophomore majoring in Computer Aided  
Drafting & Design (With emphasis in Mechanical Engineering).  
A little bit about myself, well, I didn’t really come out of my shell til my senior year in high  
school. Prior to that, I was ‘the weird kid’. I’m not afraid to admit it, because I feel like I’ve  
far out grown that stigma. Especially considering how I spent my summer, which more or less  
included: Partying, Cliff Jumping, Partying, Skateboarding and More Partying. There’s many details  
I think it would be best if I didn’t share with the forum. All and all, I had a crazy and awesome  
summer with experiences and stories that will last me a lifetime.

Coming back to college was a real pain. Not because of classes and work and all that jazz. I knew  
it was coming and I was beginning to be all partied out. I was definitely ready to slow down and  
focus on academics. The real pain came from my relationship with a girl.

We started dating the previous year, meeting in freshman orientation. We hung out quite often  
until it became official that we were dating, which happened to be September 11th, 2007.  
Well, she shows up at my apartment, unannounced on September 10th, 2008, and at 11:15pm (Yes, 45  
minutes away from our 1 year anniversary) breaks my heart, and leaves me sitting there with a  
perfect ring for an anniversary present.

I didn’t see her for several weeks after, although I knew it was bound to happen. I’m friends with  
a guy and his girlfriend, and when we used to have guy time, our girlfriends ended up hanging out,  
so they ended up becoming fast friends almost instantly. The only thing is, he will end up calling me to hang out and his girlfriend will call my ex to hang out, without telling the other, so on many cases it is the four of us, a  
couple and the recently broken up couple. Kinda awkward. Scratch that. It can be very awkward.

While we were dating, we said if we did break up we wanted to remain friends, which I am standing  
by, so I’m not being a jerk or anything to her.

What really throws me off though, is the level of nice she is being to me. We were talking about  
how my apartment complex is the only one on campus that charges on their washing machines, and she  
offered to do all of my laundry for me, as she can get it done for free. The next day she picked  
it up, and the day after that I had a basket of neatly folded clothes. Another time, she offered  
to pick me up from class (as I have to walk a mile too and from school every day), and when we got  
back to my place to casually hang out for a bit, she proceeded to start cleaning a bit of my  
apartment.

All of our mutual friends say she wants me back. I’m sticking with she wants to remain good  
friends and she feels bad how hard the break up hit me, so she’s being extra nice. Plus I don’t  
want to assume she wants me back and just get hurt again. An ending note: If she doesn’t want me  
back, I don’t want her too. It’s her life and I just want her to be happy, whatever decision it  
is.

Anyways, recently, a friend of mine, who happens to go by pherophreak on these forums told me about pheromones and told me about this website and some of his experiences, which I’m sure he posted here first. Well, after browsing around for a bit, I decided to register and check some of the products out.

The two items I’m really looking at trying out at the moment (as I’m a poor college student with minimal spending cash) are Ammo and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), both at the suggestion of my friend PheroPhreak, the latter of which I would like to get a straight answer from my ex on how she feels about me. Of course I’d like to try many of the other products, but in due time I hope.

Well, that’s my intro. A fair amount longer than I expected it to be, but hey, pretty informative.

-Regards,  
Adam

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**Author:** ![theperv584](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theperv584/32/890_2.png) [@theperv584](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/theperv584)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 10:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/19-y-o-recently-single-michigander-student/21021/2 "2008-10-08T10:08:07Z")

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Hey Adam,

I am a Mechanical engineer myself (Aerospace degree tho ☹). No worries about budget; its always noble to start small. Ammo and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) seems like good options, you can mix/wear them both when you go out with your ex. Though relationship wise, I am unable to comment. Perhaps the other forumers who are well versed can help you.

Jusr ask if you have questions on pheros and a bit on bf/gf stuff since we are both of the same age group. 😃

Bless you.

Kai

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**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 10:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/19-y-o-recently-single-michigander-student/21021/3 "2008-10-08T10:27:59Z")

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Hi Adam. That is indeed a great intro. If you have a little idea that she might want you back as you are, then you don’t want to “change” too much by becoming someone altogether new and a little bit bewildering to her. But then you know her well enough to change yourself a bit in a direction that she will like.

So your choices seem pretty good, especially IH, which should prompt her to either give a straight answer or at least some more telling clues as to how she feels. These can either be verbal, or in her body language. So start off gradually with the [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) to test the waters around her, 1 spray to start off with and see how she reacts. Be yourself still, just with some more confidence, and maybe even a slight air of mystery, and you should do alright.

Maybe test both the Ammo and IH out first with a neutral third party - you don’t have to get them salivating over you, simply see if you can get enhanced eye contact, flirting and a bit of social interest.

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**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 12:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/19-y-o-recently-single-michigander-student/21021/4 "2008-10-08T12:36:37Z")

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Welcome.

For comfort, you might consider ifm and ig. You might want to go easy on the ammo at this point. In any case be careful with it and observe her reactions carefully.

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 12:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/19-y-o-recently-single-michigander-student/21021/5 "2008-10-08T12:52:28Z")

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Hello Adam and welcome to the forum.

Engineer - too cool. I have never been gifted or inclined in that direction and admire those who are to include a friend of mine.

I think you are taking the right approach - cautious - after what happened. NTK gave you some good product advice: IH, IFM and Ammo. You may also want to consider [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). Read the threads in my signature block to get a feel for the differences and how to make them work for you.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 10:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/19-y-o-recently-single-michigander-student/21021/6 "2008-10-08T22:55:15Z")

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Hello Adam

Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂

I am sorry about your break up.

I think AMMO and IH are a great start for you. It will be easier to because you have Pherophreak to help you learn to use them.

Keep in mind that IH will not make you EX tell the truth, thats not what it does. It will deepen communication and she will talk about more indepth subjects and feelings. If she is holding back it will help her to let go and open up.

If you have questions just ask.

**Your GC is on its way 😃**

Tisha

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**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 1:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/19-y-o-recently-single-michigander-student/21021/7 "2008-10-09T01:10:19Z")

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Hi Adam, I’m glad you made an introduction post, you’ll find everyone here to be really friendly! Ammo and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) are great products. Ammo tends to put a more sexual vibe out because it has androstenone in it (could be wrong on that name) Instant Honesty is a good product too. The most important thing to remember is to pace yourself, and keep in mind that these sprays will have less immediate effect on friends or people you normally hang out with, they are already used to your pheromone signature so it will take them some time to adapt to the new one. Good luck!

Sorry about the late welcome! I actually posted this yesterday night, but it never came through.

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**Author:** ![YpsiAdam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e95f7d/32.png) [@YpsiAdam](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/YpsiAdam)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 3:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/19-y-o-recently-single-michigander-student/21021/8 "2008-10-09T15:51:33Z")

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Thanks for the welcome everyone, and yeah, Pherophreak has already given me more information that you could imagine. He seems to really know his stuff.

And yes, I realize that this stuff isn’t magical or anything. Ammo won’t get my laid 3 times a day and IH isn’t truth serum.

IH does actually seem perfect for talking to my ex actually, because she’s always had trouble articulating what she is feeling in words.

Well, I just got the GC, and I have to say thank you very much. I’ll have to browse the shop later today and get my order in. I’ll have to do it later though, I have to run to class.

Thanks everyone,  
Adam.

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**Author:** ![YpsiAdam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e95f7d/32.png) [@YpsiAdam](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/YpsiAdam)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 4:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/19-y-o-recently-single-michigander-student/21021/9 "2008-10-15T16:16:00Z")

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She dropped a bombshell on me last night. 1 month later, and now she’s in a new relationship.

I then found out she had some problems that she didn’t tell me about for the last 8 months of our relationship. Instead of talking to me and resolving them, she let them brew and get worse.

Anyways, I ordered the products about a week ago, haven’t gotten them yet. Well, it’s too late to try using them on her. ☹ _sigh_ I loved her too.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 11:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/19-y-o-recently-single-michigander-student/21021/10 "2008-10-15T23:09:01Z")

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Ahhhh ((( Adam))) I am sorry. Nothing we can say will make you feel better right now but time does heal in these situations.

I am concerned about your order though.

Please go here… [https://a314.com/](https://a314.com/)

Fill out a ticket and give them your invoice number so Mick can check on it for you.

Hang in there 😉

Tisha

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**Author:** ![YpsiAdam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e95f7d/32.png) [@YpsiAdam](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/YpsiAdam)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 3:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/19-y-o-recently-single-michigander-student/21021/11 "2008-10-16T15:38:09Z")

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I wasn’t too worried, and rightfully so. 🙂 I got an email last night saying that my order has been shipped.

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**Author:** ![YpsiAdam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e95f7d/32.png) [@YpsiAdam](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/YpsiAdam)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 3:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/19-y-o-recently-single-michigander-student/21021/12 "2008-10-16T15:40:49Z")

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Speak of the devil, they just arrived 30 seconds ago.

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**Author:** ![theomajigga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@theomajigga](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/theomajigga)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 9:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/19-y-o-recently-single-michigander-student/21021/13 "2008-10-16T21:11:26Z")

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YA, good luck my friend. there is plenty of time man. I feel for ya. but got get em tiger 😉

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**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 9:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/19-y-o-recently-single-michigander-student/21021/14 "2008-10-16T21:31:27Z")

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Hey Adam I look over your post and I know where your coming from trust me I had a 5 year relationship that end it about a year ago on my 20 bday (cheat on me with my best friend at time and walk in on them)

but guess what because of that I am a much better person and I can see better I know it’s hard and all but now I can see better and know what I want plus this might come across as a tad harsh but if it was meant to be or worth it would have worked out.

but let us know how the product is working out for you and put yourself out there bro simple as that (btw you be thinking about her and all that its normal you get use to it)  
I just order mine and I should have it by tom 🙂

sorry if I am a tad to direct / harsh.
