# 2.5 mcg p75 + 2 x ammo + 1x IS + 1x IO = winner **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 11, 2012, 12:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/2-5-mcg-p75-2-x-ammo-1x-is-1x-io-winner/57265 "2012-11-11T00:24:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 10:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/2-5-mcg-p75-2-x-ammo-1x-is-1x-io-winner/57265/23 "2012-11-13T10:15:16Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > My friend this is the same sort of logical analysis you can apply to a314. What makes Coolkat’s mix so different? Is the status different? I got the impression from 2 stores I visited that sales people were trying to DEATH to market their products… The one girl at Guess shows me 20 jackets.. HELLO this doesn’t happen EVER to me!!! No saleslady shows me 20 jackets holds them open so I can put myself into them and then I reject her by saying I’m going to look around and go to another store. Then I went to Parasuco and this guy tried to convince me to buy winter jackets and I basically was not convinced but he really tried hard to sell me without pressure but with a lot of effort on his part. > > There is a trend here.. With a314 a man has to ACT alpha and take the lead and sell himself, but with this mix it seems the recipient is selling him/herself. It’s business related.. they’re not trying to come on to me.. They’re try to sell their products. > > When I went to Swiss Chalet a host their is trying to sell me on what the restaurant has on production.. She is adamant to intercept my casual conversation and FORCE a statement like " hold on.. i just HAVE to say something.. I’m sorry but I just HAVE to.. We are having a special with pasta, and other dishes…blah blah blah" Then she left. I started off by getting personal with her.. She gave me answers but didn’t really get acquainted in detail or show interest in ME, but then when she just had to interject she could of easily waited for the conversation to stop and then told me but she intercepted like she couldnt’ control herself. > > I feel like bond with this mix, except women are trying to get sell their business. > > they have no interest in getting to know me.. damnit.. it seems it is all business. > > They don’t ask me how I am, how I am doing, how my day is.. they just focus on impressing me either because they think i am high status or because they think I am going to buy from them.. and no matter how much I reject them they still try to sell me.. They don’t quit until I tell them I have to leave… So the big question is, is this ideal for business or for attraction…? > > 😮😮 Could be very situation dependent as well, I’ve worn Chikara, [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) and IS combo and walked into the store and the girl working was asking me nothing but personal questions. I wasn’t even making eyecontact half the time but watching the TV in the store and she just kept talking. Maybe the lack of IO or the replacement you are using is what’s causing this, or even TUTH might work better to up the sexual/attraction part of the mix. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 12:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/2-5-mcg-p75-2-x-ammo-1x-is-1x-io-winner/57265/24 "2012-11-13T12:16:09Z")
> [@monesmadedoit](#): > > I have tested this same concept, but got the best results from 2 sprays each of IO, IH, Instant Shine and 10 mcg p75. I tried 1 spray of double AMMO. Didn’t seem to matter. It seemed the socials and p75 were doing the job. I have not tested IG or A314. p75 with the aforementioned socials seems to generate all of the qualities attributed to IS, IG and A314. It does attract blondes. It does (as used in a blend with socials) make you someone women want to be around and men…somewhat…apprehensive about. > > Just way too damn cool. Strange with coolkats mix men were not apprehensive around me, they would make eye contact and not look the least bit nervous. Did you find the woman took a physical attraction to you with it on or it was more business oriented like a314? ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 12:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/2-5-mcg-p75-2-x-ammo-1x-is-1x-io-winner/57265/25 "2012-11-13T12:18:54Z")
> [@ballzan](#): > > Could be very situation dependent as well, I’ve worn Chikara, P75 and IS combo and walked into the store and the girl working was asking me nothing but personal questions. I wasn’t even making eyecontact half the time but watching the TV in the store and she just kept talking. Maybe the lack of IO or the replacement you are using is what’s causing this, or even TUTH might work better to up the sexual/attraction part of the mix. Coolkat did say he used it in a bar as there was a bartender there.. perhaps in venues like this results are better? ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 12:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/2-5-mcg-p75-2-x-ammo-1x-is-1x-io-winner/57265/26 "2012-11-13T12:42:46Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > Coolkat did say he used it in a bar as there was a bartender there.. perhaps in venues like this results are better? It’s a sexy/social combo, add some TAC (5-10mcg) if you want better results during the day. ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 1:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/2-5-mcg-p75-2-x-ammo-1x-is-1x-io-winner/57265/27 "2012-11-13T13:24:45Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > Strange with coolkats mix men were not apprehensive around me, they would make eye contact and not look the least bit nervous. > > Did you find the woman took a physical attraction to you with it on or it was more business oriented like a314? I think there are a bunch of factors that come into play such as the environment Club, Mall, Gym, etc and also I believe that it amplifies physical attraction, every time I have worn it girls have made comments about my physique, saying how big and how ripped I was etc which normally doesn’t happen. I still say it is the Tony Stark/Playboy celeb phero when worn with Ammo and some socials. Pretty much the cool guy effect from P75 alone and also magnetism(probably from the cool guy effect) where girls follow you around and want to stay close, from my experience anyway. I feel it is better to understand each Phero alone before we start trying to figure out why people react the way they do to mixes including them. Also some ratios should come into play with this mix, with 2 sprays of normal Ammo thats about 5mcg of None and 2.5mcg of P75 so maybe less None would balance it out better. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 2:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/2-5-mcg-p75-2-x-ammo-1x-is-1x-io-winner/57265/28 "2012-11-13T14:53:31Z")
> [@ballzan](#): > > I think there are a bunch of factors that come into play such as the environment Club, Mall, Gym, etc and also I believe that it amplifies physical attraction, every time I have worn it girls have made comments about my physique, saying how big and how ripped I was etc which normally doesn’t happen. I still say it is the Tony Stark/Playboy celeb phero when worn with Ammo and some socials. Pretty much the cool guy effect from P75 alone and also magnetism(probably from the cool guy effect) where girls follow you around and want to stay close, from my experience anyway. I feel it is better to understand each Phero alone before we start trying to figure out why people react the way they do to mixes including them. > > Also some ratios should come into play with this mix, with 2 sprays of normal Ammo thats about 5mcg of None and 2.5mcg of P75 so maybe less None would balance it out better. You are only 20. 1 shot of ammo is more than enough. I am almost 10 years older than you 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 2:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/2-5-mcg-p75-2-x-ammo-1x-is-1x-io-winner/57265/29 "2012-11-13T14:56:55Z")
> [@CoolKat](#): > > You are only 20. 1 shot of ammo is more than enough. I am almost 10 years older than you 😉 Yea I never go over 1 shot of Ammo as it is OD for me. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 5:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/2-5-mcg-p75-2-x-ammo-1x-is-1x-io-winner/57265/30 "2012-11-13T17:28:08Z")
> [@still18](#): > > It’s a sexy/social combo, add some TAC (5-10mcg) if you want better results during the day. Why do you think its a sexy social combo… i got nothing but higher status out of it… Not social and definitely not sexy. The talk was all BUSINESS. There was no flirtation from women. 😕 It makes me and other serious – like a314. As for TAC its done nothing but make me feel loopy and tired.😮 ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 7:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/2-5-mcg-p75-2-x-ammo-1x-is-1x-io-winner/57265/31 "2012-11-13T19:57:59Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > Why do you think its a sexy social combo… i got nothing but higher status out of it… Not social and definitely not sexy. The talk was all BUSINESS. There was no flirtation from women. 😕 It makes me and other serious – like a314. > > As for TAC its done nothing but make me feel loopy and tired.😮 I get social sexy out of it, I do think it does raise my status a bit but in a good way. Like I said it could be a number of things causing this, post your results with the mix in your journal and try it for atleast 3 days with detailed posts and that might help us determine why. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 1:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/2-5-mcg-p75-2-x-ammo-1x-is-1x-io-winner/57265/32 "2012-11-14T01:48:18Z")
> [@ballzan](#): > > I get social sexy out of it, I do think it does raise my status a bit but in a good way. Like I said it could be a number of things causing this, post your results with the mix in your journal and try it for atleast 3 days with detailed posts and that might help us determine why. I’ll keep using the combo and keep a journal.. Its possible I was tense because after all I did workout 3 hrs before with weights. That could only help diffusion but maybe I was too tense myself from it causing others not to flirt with me. ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 9:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/2-5-mcg-p75-2-x-ammo-1x-is-1x-io-winner/57265/33 "2012-11-14T09:19:43Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > I’ll keep using the combo and keep a journal.. Its possible I was tense because after all I did workout 3 hrs before with weights. That could only help diffusion but maybe I was too tense myself from it causing others not to flirt with me. I do 2 hours a day and usually am fine and even more relaxed when I am done so try to work on that and it really depends on your personality too, I used to be tense all the time and super introverted but not so much anymore. The lifting will help with the diffusion forsure but keep in mind most girls in the gym aren’t going to come talk to you, I have worn a similar mix plenty of times and get IOI’s and that look where you can tell they want to but then again are thinking it isn’t the right setting and are a little intimidated. If you are actually doing a decent workout though you shouldn’t need anymore than an hour of lifting for the average person and unless you reapply the IO and IS atleast are going to probably be completely diffused as they don’t last super long under normal conditions so just keep that in mind. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 6:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/2-5-mcg-p75-2-x-ammo-1x-is-1x-io-winner/57265/34 "2012-11-18T18:57:36Z")
ballzan any more trials with this mix? I’m going to head out with it again this week and see what kinda of results I get… Perhaps I was too tense from weight training (It does that too me as I have neck injuries from years back that act up when I lift) and it was making me more tense. let me know how you feel about it after a few more trials. Furthermore, have any of you tested with SOE? Do you think that is changing my results dramatically.. Unfortunately I don’t have any IO. ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 7:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/2-5-mcg-p75-2-x-ammo-1x-is-1x-io-winner/57265/35 "2012-11-18T19:58:30Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > ballzan any more trials with this mix? I’m going to head out with it again this week and see what kinda of results I get… Perhaps I was too tense from weight training (It does that too me as I have neck injuries from years back that act up when I lift) and it was making me more tense. > > let me know how you feel about it after a few more trials. Furthermore, have any of you tested with SOE? Do you think that is changing my results dramatically.. Unfortunately I don’t have any IO. I have never used SOE but am getting my shippment tomorrow with my IO togo in it so I will do some testing in the gym with P75, [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/), and IO tomorrow, well and 1 spray IS. I will bring some TUTH and P83 just in case any hot girls are there but I doubt there will be. As far as the above mix I really am waiting for the right environment to try it out as the gym isn’t really the best one. I will probably wear this mix when working black Friday or go into the mall with it and let you know how it goes. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 3:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/2-5-mcg-p75-2-x-ammo-1x-is-1x-io-winner/57265/36 "2013-01-02T15:14:08Z")
Hey guys any more status updates on this thread… Ballzan? Others? My IO arrived.. i will try the same mix but with IO instead of SOE. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/2-5-mcg-p75-2-x-ammo-1x-is-1x-io-winner/57265.md?page=1)