# 21, sad, and hopeful? **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [June 21, 2013, 6:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-sad-and-hopeful/59376 "2013-06-21T06:00:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![The\_Great\_Bambino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@The\_Great\_Bambino](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Great_Bambino)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2013, 6:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-sad-and-hopeful/59376/1 "2013-06-21T06:00:29Z")
I’m a pretty lowkey dude that has fallen into a rut with women… I’m 21, around 6’ tall, and in okay shape. I go to college, and there are a ton of beautiful women everywhere… all of them seem unattainable. I’m smart and pretty funny, but I never get to that point, because I’m relatively sure that my approach anxiety (if y’all call it that here) gives me the confidence of… something that doesn’t have confidence. It’s annoying to the point of embarrassment. HELP! I’ll probably use whatever you suggest at bars, class, or really anywhere I’d see a nice lady. Thanks! I’d really like a suggestion for some way to get me to open up. ---
**Author:** ![CelticPrince](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/celticprince/32/397_2.png) [@CelticPrince](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CelticPrince)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2013, 6:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-sad-and-hopeful/59376/2 "2013-06-21T06:51:16Z")
Hi Bambino, Welcome. I think a great place for you to start would be [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and IS. Ammo will help you get the attention of the ladies, and instant shine will make it easier to get a conversation going. But you do have to do something, the mones wont work all by themselves. But the shine should help you too get over that confidence issue. Keep working on it. Im sure some other folks will be along soon with some more advice. If you need some help, just ask. Everyone is pretty cool here. Looking forward to hearing how it goes… ---
**Author:** ![ryanmercer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryanmercer/32/1569_2.png) [@ryanmercer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ryanmercer)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2013, 8:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-sad-and-hopeful/59376/3 "2013-06-21T08:07:27Z")
I agree, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and Ammo are good bets for right now. I suggest you go read [An Introduction to Mones; Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Length of](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43003) to get a good idea of how to use pheromones and [What pheromones can do and what they cant Updated](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-do-and-what-they-cant-updated/9558) to give you a good firm expectation for pheromones. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 4:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-sad-and-hopeful/59376/4 "2013-06-22T16:25:08Z")
Hello, Bambino! Welcome! I agree with the suggestions of Ammo and IS, but I actually think that [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) would be more important for you than IS. IO is specifically designed for conversation. IS is a mood lifter, and it might help you feel less tense, but IO will make people more inclined to talk to you, and conversation will be more natural. Keep us posted on your experiences! ---
**Author:** ![Wyatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Wyatt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wyatt)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2013, 9:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-sad-and-hopeful/59376/5 "2013-06-25T09:04:02Z")
In your situation I disagree with much of what the others have said. Go with IG + IH. It’s a nice guy with balls (it helps me act on them). Ammo + [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) is solid and IO helps get peeps gabbing, but with IG+IH on I just say f\*\*k it, let’s do this and I think that’s what you need. ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 3:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-sad-and-hopeful/59376/6 "2013-06-26T15:31:42Z")
Welcome TheGreatBambino, This is a super informal and not so tailored response if you will. I would luuuuuuuv to spend more time assisting you especially since you are a newbie. We are short staffed and these gift certificates are done manually. It takes a great deal and I am back logged. I am hoping that when I catch up on my work, I can start answering these intro threads the way I use to In fact, I am hoping that soon, someone more experienced than me can come in so I get to do what I am great at, customer service. Thank you for giving [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) a chance. Your gc was issued!