# 21, sad, and hopeful?

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**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [June 21, 2013, 6:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-sad-and-hopeful/59376 "2013-06-21T06:00:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![ryanmercer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryanmercer/32/1569_2.png) [@ryanmercer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ryanmercer)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2013, 8:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-sad-and-hopeful/59376/3 "2013-06-21T08:07:27Z")

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I agree, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and Ammo are good bets for right now.

I suggest you go read [An Introduction to Mones; Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Length of](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43003) to get a good idea of how to use pheromones and [What pheromones can do and what they cant Updated](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-do-and-what-they-cant-updated/9558) to give you a good firm expectation for pheromones.

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