# 21 year old pilot / student from ohio! Any advice?

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**Created:** [July 6, 2010, 4:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-year-old-pilot-student-from-ohio-any-advice/39834 "2010-07-06T04:04:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Neb\_16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/aca169/32.png) [@Neb\_16](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Neb_16)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 4:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-year-old-pilot-student-from-ohio-any-advice/39834/1 "2010-07-06T04:04:23Z")

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Hi guys! I have been searching around for a while now for a reputable [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) site. Everyone seemed to be suggesting this site, so i decided to try it! let me tell you a little bit about myself…

I am a 21 year old male from Cleveland ohio. I am a pilot, college student, and work as a bartender/waiter on a tourist beach in the summer. The reason I am here is that i am not satisfied with the attention that I get from girls.

I feel like I am a halfway decent looking guy. I am 6 foot, muscular build, and in good shape. The thing is, it seems like girls don’t see me as a potential sexual partner. At work, for example, I make small talk with my cute co-workers. They seem to respond positively, but i don’t see any signs of interest. It just always seems like girls are willing to talk to me and stuff, but they don’t really see me as being a potential boyfriend.

On a more personal note, i am not “shy” but i do have a hard time approaching new girls. While i think my game is a step or two up from the guys in the movie Superbad, I am not exactly “mr smooth” lol.

With so many products on here to choose from, I am not sure which to try for my first order! I looking for something that will make girls open up a little more to me, and I am definately looking for something that will help build a sexual attraction. I have heard that AMMO is a good general Pheromone… Is this a good starting point? Any other ideas or suggestions?

ps… If you have any questions about anything that i didn’t mention, feel free to ask. I am more than willing to give the information needed in order to get the best advice. Thanks in advance!

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**Author:** ![TheBoogieMan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theboogieman/32/1136_2.png) [@TheBoogieMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheBoogieMan)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 4:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-year-old-pilot-student-from-ohio-any-advice/39834/2 "2010-07-06T04:15:38Z")

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Hey Neb. Welcome to the forum!

From your description I would think the girls would be all over you haha. 21 and already a pilot? I know I’m jealous.

Ammo would be a good start. You could also look at something like a combination of Instant Honesty/Instant Openness + [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/).

Honestly, if I were you I might get Instant Jerk along with one of the socials like IH or IO. It will give you a sexual vibe as well as a ‘more than friends’/asshole kind of aura which could be good for you from what you’ve said. Break you out of the friendzone and into the bedroom haha.

Whatever you choose, good luck!

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**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 6:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-year-old-pilot-student-from-ohio-any-advice/39834/3 "2010-07-06T06:11:38Z")

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Hello there,

Welcome to the forum.

AMMO sounds like something that you could definetly benefit from. It is the best of all worlds. It is sexy, social, and masculine. It is truly one of the best products availabe on the market.

AMMO combined with Instant shine gives you a huge confidence boost. IS also boosts your mood and the moods of people around you.

I feel that Combo could be a good start for you.

Please let us know what you decide.

Again, Welcome

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**Author:** ![TheBoogieMan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theboogieman/32/1136_2.png) [@TheBoogieMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheBoogieMan)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 6:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-year-old-pilot-student-from-ohio-any-advice/39834/4 "2010-07-06T06:14:10Z")

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How could I forget [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)? Good call Jesse. I haven’t been giving it enough credit lately even though it works great for me.

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**Author:** ![ClintX2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9e8a1a/32.png) [@ClintX2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ClintX2)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 6:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-year-old-pilot-student-from-ohio-any-advice/39834/5 "2010-07-06T06:20:56Z")

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Hi Neb 16,

You said: “they don’t really see me as being a potential boyfriend”

I would definitely recommend some A314. This gives you an air of confidence/status/value and says “I just might be boyfriend material” (check out some of the posts on A314 and look up the fallout effect- good stuff)

Hope this helps

ClintX2

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 6:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-year-old-pilot-student-from-ohio-any-advice/39834/6 "2010-07-06T06:45:18Z")

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AMMO is a great starting point because its a well balanced [social pheromone](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) with sexual undertones. It might help you to also work with A314 to help your confidence and build up your alpha aura. Couple of things I"m going to suggest to you, Instant Openness might help your situations better than Instant Honesty because Instant Honesty might make you go further into the friend zone, if you keep conversations flirty and light, they won’t automatically put you in there. You’ll be that fun type. Grab a to-go of TUTH too and see how you can escalate things with that.

Here’s a quick reference guide on all of the products that AD offers and links to how to find your sweet spot and background on pheromones.

> [@Updated AndroticsDirect Pheromones for newbies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/updated-androticsdirect-pheromones-for-newbies/39802):
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> AD offers a wide array of pheromones out there. There’s been more and more new users asking about products and what not. To start off here are some basic guides for pheromones. This is a great writeup by Steve O to test pheromones out that you receive. [How to find your sweet spot… - PheroTalk Pheromone Research Forum](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-sweet-spot/55943)[http://www.pheromonetalk.com/introductions-new-users-say-hello-today/introduction-](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/about-the-introductions-new-users-say-hello-category/189702)[pheromones-names-size-strength-use-46373.html](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012) Here is also a guide to the molecules by toilofd…

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**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 11:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-year-old-pilot-student-from-ohio-any-advice/39834/7 "2010-07-06T23:35:50Z")

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Welcome to Pherotalk Neb!

The products we have all depends on what you want. You seem to want to more than just sex so Turn up the heat is for after you get into a relationship and you want to spice things in the bedroom.

Ammunition is a going to let them know you are sexually interested but in a more subtle way. Instant honesty is a good for intimacy and allows you to get even closer to someone special or for someone who you want to open up to you on a deeper level.

CTTM 2 is another great product if you are already in a relationship or want to head that way because girls will feel like they can trust you.

Instant gentleman will give out that smooth , suave guy kind of vibe you definitely want to grab and hold the ladies attentions.

These products will definitely assist but you have to play with them and then find the right combination that seals the deal.

The guys can help with that further.

Your gc will be issued soon!

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**Author:** ![Neb\_16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/aca169/32.png) [@Neb\_16](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Neb_16)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 2:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-year-old-pilot-student-from-ohio-any-advice/39834/8 "2010-07-07T14:38:09Z")

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Ok. So i think i’m going to start out with some AMMO for sure, and maybe some IS? Although the TUTH seems tempting as well. What do you guys think about the mx series, and what exacly is this A314 i keep hearing about?

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**Author:** ![Neb\_16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/aca169/32.png) [@Neb\_16](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Neb_16)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 2:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-year-old-pilot-student-from-ohio-any-advice/39834/9 "2010-07-07T14:43:14Z")

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I forgot to ask in my last reply… Are there any TO GO bottles of A314?

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**Author:** ![Katalyst](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/katalyst/32/1415_2.png) [@Katalyst](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Katalyst)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 2:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-year-old-pilot-student-from-ohio-any-advice/39834/10 "2010-07-07T14:50:27Z")

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IG is its lighter alpha vibe. Its comparable to A314 but more friendly and approachable but still generates the respect and bf material. I think its mx347 that is A314 in a spray version but the alpha-ness is very much more in your face rather than a gradual with the oil version of A314. The effects happen much quicker but users have reported that they fade off quicker and dont last the 7-9 hours like A314.

Edit: heres a link to it:

> **[Experimental Human Pheromones - Pheromone Labs](https://pheromonelabs.com/)**
