# 21 yr old male needs advise from phero-experts... **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 19, 2012, 9:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-yr-old-male-needs-advise-from-phero-experts/55323 "2012-04-19T21:56:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Turbosmart4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Turbosmart4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Turbosmart4)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2012, 9:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-yr-old-male-needs-advise-from-phero-experts/55323/1 "2012-04-19T21:56:42Z")
hi everyone, i am new here and would like to know what combos i can try to grab girls’ attention (in a good way) and make them want to talk to me and make them feel excited(in a sexxi way) when they are around me… ive been told IO+AMMO or IS+AMMO… any body would like to share something with this newb? :o thanks ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 6:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-yr-old-male-needs-advise-from-phero-experts/55323/2 "2012-04-20T06:45:25Z")
Well looks like you got good advice to start out for the goal you posted. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) IO and Ishine are the standard in almost all male mone arsenals. Do you have any specific questions about these products ? The more you elborate on your needs and personality the more we can suggest in products that will more then likely work for you. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Turbosmart4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Turbosmart4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Turbosmart4)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 9:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-yr-old-male-needs-advise-from-phero-experts/55323/3 "2012-04-20T21:25:17Z")
im looking to gets girls’ attention while at the gym.. i will just get straight to the point… i want to find girls i can have fun with 😉 lol i know i have to test each one of them by themselves but i just need to know what i need to get what im looking for. ---
**Author:** ![redlion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8491ac/32.png) [@redlion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/redlion)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 9:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-yr-old-male-needs-advise-from-phero-experts/55323/4 "2012-04-20T21:54:06Z")
Well if you’re going to the gym you could read [this thread](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-hits-at-the-gym/55162) which details one of our user’s experiences. In my experience the gym isn’t the best place to pick up chicks. Most people (men and women) are focused on their workouts, what with the headphones, blank stares and heavy breathing. Not saying it can’t work, just that I find concerts, bars, parties and clubs to be more the right environment. Gyms are full of testosterone junkies (no offense gym rats) so hormone levels are always out of sync in such places. At least, compared to the general population. If you are determined to pick up women at the gym, you might increase the dosage you’re wearing compared to what you would wear in public. People don’t talk a whole lot in gyms, except about their workouts, or if they know each other well. If you’re trying to make new connections, consider increasing the dosage of your [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) - IO and IS. Yeah… I can’t really offer too much advice without knowing more about what you’re looking to do. I mean are you looking for that one girl that’s willing to jump you in the locker rooms? Because for that you could try a massive dose of none. I… honestly don’t know where I’m going with this. Elaborate on your goals and your strengths and weaknesses so we can be more specific. ---
**Author:** ![Turbosmart4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Turbosmart4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Turbosmart4)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 10:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-yr-old-male-needs-advise-from-phero-experts/55323/5 "2012-04-20T22:00:13Z")
how do i elaborate? sorry, i suck at this…i just want ladies ---
**Author:** ![sweetybirdy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sweetybirdy/32/1524_2.png) [@sweetybirdy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sweetybirdy)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 11:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-yr-old-male-needs-advise-from-phero-experts/55323/6 "2012-04-20T23:45:17Z")
> [@redlion](#): > > In my experience the gym isn’t the best place to pick up chicks. Most people (men and women) are focused on their workouts, what with the headphones, blank stares and heavy breathing. I agree totally with you. I think gym is hardly going to work…Ladies there mostly focus on their workout, and it would be annoying from a lady’s perspective if a guy tries to approach while she is focusing to maintain her cardio heart rate LOL And also, in order to get nice interaction with a woman, you need to be in an environment where she feels sexy about herself. Ladies generally don’t wear make up or look their best in the gym because it is not a place where they are expected to socialize…Speaking from my perspective, I would hate that if a guy disturbs my cardio and keeps talking to me while I am sweating like hell LOL As for the locker room case, I don’t think it would work that well for flirtatious interaction because most people just want to get a nice shower ASAP and again, sweating shirt sticking on back is not sexy… ---
**Author:** ![Nova512](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/43a26b/32.png) [@Nova512](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nova512)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2012, 4:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-yr-old-male-needs-advise-from-phero-experts/55323/7 "2012-04-21T04:51:49Z")
I’m 21 @ College and wondering the exact same as Turbo…Do you think [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) would be good for us? As of me I’m European, classy, ‘too nice’ though. IJ? EDIT: I have this Indian friend who came to my place yesterday and sprayed himself 3 times with TUTH (he’s 19) thinking it was cologne. I was like this guy is surely going to OD, I put half a spray and I OD on it.. He got 2 chicks on the subway, 2 girls on the street all asking him to join them at a bar…I was like wtf?? lol ---
**Author:** ![Dragoncrester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Dragoncrester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dragoncrester)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 11:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/21-yr-old-male-needs-advise-from-phero-experts/55323/8 "2012-04-24T11:20:23Z")
I have also been wandering about using P83. I had to do alittle research into finding out what the effects are but as I understand it, its like a [pheromone](https://a314.com/) that drives the reactions of the other pheros you use but it can direct the reactions away from you to another person.