# 25 yo skeptical male trying "mones" for the first time **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [December 19, 2012, 6:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/25-yo-skeptical-male-trying-mones-for-the-first-time/57594 "2012-12-19T06:50:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dutto11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@dutto11](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dutto11)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 6:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/25-yo-skeptical-male-trying-mones-for-the-first-time/57594/1 "2012-12-19T06:50:09Z")
Hi, ive decided to give this a go, not expecting much but the products I had ordered have arrived today and feel like giving an account of my experiances with the following products Ammunition 1x, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) 1x and a free sample I was kindly given of P103. First customer experiance: Ordered the products on monday 17th december 2012 recieved the products 19th december 2012. All products came as expected and a free sample of P103 was given. Impressed by the speed and packaging of delivery and the general usage of the site Androtics Direct where I got the products from. I’m about to go the gym and read on other threads that using them when working out can alter how they work because of sweat and body heat increase, however I really just want to try the products today, not so much to improve social interactions, just to test the general smell and feel of them. Ok so im applying one spray each wrist of openeness, and two sprays of amm on neck. Easy to use both have decent scent. Like I sai dnot planning on this really doing anything as im just goin gym on my own and don’t usually intereact much with other gym members, hopefully goin out more socially either tommorow night or saturday. A quick query on how ive applied the sprays, would you recommend differant dosages? or spraying to differant areas? thanks any questions feedback much appreciated!!! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Evilcalyptic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evilcalyptic/32/1567_2.png) [@Evilcalyptic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Evilcalyptic)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2012, 9:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/25-yo-skeptical-male-trying-mones-for-the-first-time/57594/2 "2012-12-26T21:17:13Z")
You know whats funny, I have been using ammo for almost 4 years now and it works best for me at about 5-6 sprays… strangest thing The only other [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) I liked from androtics were CTTM2 and A314. CTTM2 made me feel high as hell and i couldnt stop smelling the stuff… was like a scratch and sniff for a 5 year old. anyway im just about to finish my last 2 bottles of ammo and im switching brands. I like ammo, but its more for 21 and younger… perhaps thats why i have to load it on ---
**Author:** ![dutto11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@dutto11](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dutto11)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 3:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/25-yo-skeptical-male-trying-mones-for-the-first-time/57594/3 "2012-12-29T03:12:12Z")
Hi thanks for a reply Evilcalyptic!! Well i’m 25 so I may have to use more than 3 sprays aswell of ammo interesting theory. I should be out tonight so will go for 5 sprays probaly, with a couple instant opener, and il feedback any results. ---
**Author:** ![dutto11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@dutto11](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dutto11)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 3:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/25-yo-skeptical-male-trying-mones-for-the-first-time/57594/4 "2012-12-29T03:51:40Z")
Sorry for not updating my journal since my first entry, but here goes my account of pheromones that I have tried only thus far on 3 occasions. Ok so my first try was the gym session, not going to write to much here as nothing occured and didn’t expect it to, gym was quiet. Only conclusion from that session is that the pheromones dont work that well that people will jump of there treadmills to talk to you 🙂 So my first proper time using the pheromones was a night out town on thursday, used 3 spray of ammo and 2 of instant openness right before I left to go out. Overall results tbh was the night was know differant to many others, it was just a generally good night out, dont recall any significant socialising with other people other than my friends, except for asking for a lighter to smoke. Ive been thinking well the pheromones im using are to make people you dont know easier to open up and talk to, and the ammo to help the women become attracted to you, considering I didn’t really try to open up socially to other people that wern’t my friends you could argue I didn’t give the pheromones a chance to improve my night. Which leads me then to think im going to have to start up conversations with new people when im out, which will basically ive had a placebo effect. Conclusion from that night is ammo and instant openness in small doses in this case didnt seem to make any people want to come over and chat to myself or be flirty with myself, however i didnt help as i didnt really even try and be sociable with other people myself. What ive learnt from that is i need to make more of an effort with people I dont know on nights out and the pheromones I use may help to assist the experiance. 1 thing to note from that night was the first two times i went the bar to get a drink I got served straight away in a really packed bar, which was probably just a coincidence as not much later on in the night I remember waiting ages to get served. 3rd and only other time using the sprays thus far, was for work, not much to report here but I did find the shift was a particularly highly sociable shift so possibly instant openness had some desirable effects here, hard to tell from just one experience with it at work and I will try it again soon at work. Overall conclusion so far is I need to be more open socially on nights out with new people but when i start to do this i wont really no the differance the pheromones will have made to such encounters as I rarely had opened up socially with new people before pheromones. (Quite a personal eyeopener really). One thing for for sure up till now in small doses Ammo and instant openness on a night out didn’t make people want to chat with me or be flirty with me, however instant openness may have enhanced the amount people spoke to me at work. Future: going to try an additional two sprays of ammo = 5 sprays of ammo overall and stay at 2 sprays of instant openness for now. My next experience should be tonight and il try and update tomorrow. Any questions or feedback much appreciated!!! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 4:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/25-yo-skeptical-male-trying-mones-for-the-first-time/57594/5 "2012-12-29T04:44:35Z")
Good Lord …LOL Start with 2 sprays of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and work up. Ammo is not for 21 year olds. Its the basic male attraction formula for all ages. You need to discover what dose gos with your natural chemistry. Most men under 35/40 need double ammo since testosterone starts to decline around that age. Under that age usually 3 sprays will do ya. If your finding you need up to 5 sprays buy double ammo next time. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![dutto11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@dutto11](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dutto11)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 6:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/25-yo-skeptical-male-trying-mones-for-the-first-time/57594/6 "2012-12-29T06:07:06Z")
Thanks Tisha I’m not sure what to try tonight then now haha, prob go for 3 sprays again see how it goes, and try 5 another time 😛 I did an indepth message on here earlier and its still not come up, do longer messages take alot longer to verify before putting up or wat, been a few hours now ---
**Author:** ![Evilcalyptic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evilcalyptic/32/1567_2.png) [@Evilcalyptic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Evilcalyptic)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 10:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/25-yo-skeptical-male-trying-mones-for-the-first-time/57594/7 "2012-12-30T22:01:22Z")
Yeah i would follow her advice as 5-6 sprays is considered a lot Idk to me the formula is a bit weak, maybe throw in some combination A314 or IS and/or TUTH and your better off… before i go out if i only use androtics, itll be ammo and ill put 1 spray behind each ear one on the juggy and one split between the wrists, if i go out to a bar or place of sexual hunting ill use 5 by adding one to the top of my head. Use to do it to the back of my neck but girls like to kiss and/or bite that area and having an alcohol based cologne on there was problematic. Honestly 2 sprays is a good stating point and work your way up… but ammo to me is very social and not sexual enough.