# 273: knocks down barriers like a bulldozer **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 19, 2008, 11:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/273-knocks-down-barriers-like-a-bulldozer/15895 "2008-07-19T23:45:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2008, 11:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/273-knocks-down-barriers-like-a-bulldozer/15895/1 "2008-07-19T23:45:14Z")
Once is just a passing fad, twice is just a coincidence, but three times? Now we’re starting to see a trend. Somehow this just makes you so approachable. Like it gives out an indicator, “hey I’m fine. you fine? let’s be fine” For the last few weeks I’ve been wearing it to a bar I frequent. I pretty much always go to this place by myself to catch a concert. My friends are a bunch of stiffs in this regard. But hell who needs them, everytime without fail I’ve had at least one person come up to me and “hey, your here alone, I’m here alone, lets sit together and not be alone” but that’s just the way it starts, And then somehow from there I seem to just magnetically pull all sorts of cool people to me. Usually, I’m a bit of a shy dude, don’t talk to NOBODY unless I already know them. even with beer, but throw this in the mix, and I am the party king! Everyone wants to know me, and they hang on to everword as if it were a fine wine. Doesn’t even have to be deep conversation. Suddenly I’m the center. It’s really good for finding commonalities with people. I’ve noticed that this initially only seems to grab dudes, but not “dude” dudes, really cool dudes. It does work on girls, but they don’t seem incredibly upfront about it. If you can start a conversation with them though, wow, then they don’t want to leave. Now, throw in a spray or two of ammo, “oh my god, I saw you dancing, and I just felt like I know you from somewhere, hi how are you doing?” smile smile hehe. You might as well be a babe magnet. Best part is that the addition of ammo does nothing to diminish the male comeraderie. If anything, the added masculinity seems to even help you stand out a bit more as leader. Unless you happen to be that cute girl’s boyfriend. I could go into a play by play, but I’ve already ranted enough as it is. 273+ammo is super fine super fine. Two sprays (togo sized) of each seem to be my zone. Mid-20’s akward white guy, in a crowd of similarly aged people. ---
**Author:** ![SoulCreator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/soulcreator/32/236_2.png) [@SoulCreator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SoulCreator)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2008, 12:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/273-knocks-down-barriers-like-a-bulldozer/15895/2 "2008-07-20T00:28:10Z")
Oooh! I really like the sounds of that, I’m definitely going to have to grab one of those new MX27X series in my next order. ---
**Author:** ![FIRE\_AND\_ICE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@FIRE\_AND\_ICE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FIRE_AND_ICE)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2008, 12:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/273-knocks-down-barriers-like-a-bulldozer/15895/3 "2008-07-20T00:34:03Z")
Have you tried IO? How does it differ from “that” product? I was gonna pick up some [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) but as a bar/club guy I might want to give this a second look. I’d love more details as to how it differs from products like SOE or IO in your opinion… ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2008, 7:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/273-knocks-down-barriers-like-a-bulldozer/15895/4 "2008-07-20T07:06:27Z")
273 is a really complex package. It’s much more than just a social buffer like [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). It’s got a lot of major depth to it that just seems to make it work beyond simply getting people to talk. I’d say it’s like IO in that it opens people up, but it also creates a deep connection between people, and it seems to lower peoples social boundaries. It’s like condensing years of familiarity and comfort into the space of 20 minutes. I really love IO, and I’d probably say there is a good amount of alphanol in here, but they’ve really gone above and beyond. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2008, 10:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/273-knocks-down-barriers-like-a-bulldozer/15895/5 "2008-07-20T22:12:45Z")
> [@martyk](#): > > 273 is a really complex package. It’s much more than just a social buffer like Instant Openness. It’s got a lot of major depth to it that just seems to make it work beyond simply getting people to talk. I’d say it’s like Instant Openness in that it opens people up, but it also creates a deep connection between people, and it seems to lower peoples social boundaries. It’s like condensing years of familiarity and comfort into the space of 20 minutes. > > I really love IO, and I’d probably say there is a good amount of alphanol in here, but they’ve really gone above and beyond. How old are you, Martyk; and have you noticed a certain age range being drawn to you? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 12:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/273-knocks-down-barriers-like-a-bulldozer/15895/6 "2008-07-21T00:16:42Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > How old are you, Martyk; and have you noticed a certain age range being drawn to you? > > Thanks! > [@martyk](#): > > Mid-20’s akward white guy, in a crowd of similarly aged people. But, this one has not seemed too age specific. I wore 273 alone at work and all of the older ladies seem to love me there, and the last show I went to I made good friends with a guy who runs a music shop in town who looked to be either later thirties or somewhere in his 40s. Three sprays I think starts to be too much for me, especially all on its own. Day I tried that I got some weird reactions from a waitress. She seemed to not want to wait my table at all, and I felt pretty out of sorts myself. ---
**Author:** ![Adam\_Alpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Adam\_Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Adam_Alpha)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 12:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/273-knocks-down-barriers-like-a-bulldozer/15895/7 "2008-07-21T00:18:28Z")
Great report, martyk! Think I’ll look into MX273 after I’ve tried my unopened MX271. Adam ---
**Author:** ![FIRE\_AND\_ICE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@FIRE\_AND\_ICE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FIRE_AND_ICE)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 2:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/273-knocks-down-barriers-like-a-bulldozer/15895/8 "2008-07-21T02:15:07Z")
> [@martyk](#): > > 273 is a really complex package. It’s much more than just a social buffer like Instant Openness. It’s got a lot of major depth to it that just seems to make it work beyond simply getting people to talk. I’d say it’s like Instant Openness in that it opens people up, but it also creates a deep connection between people, and it seems to lower peoples social boundaries. It’s like condensing years of familiarity and comfort into the space of 20 minutes. > > I really love IO, and I’d probably say there is a good amount of alphanol in here, but they’ve really gone above and beyond. Very interesting. Im currently in a phase of meeting new people and trying to expand my social circle. Unfortunately the town I live in limits my options for this mostly to clubs and bars. I find that instant openess seems to make me come off “better” when interacting with other people. They just seem more interested in talking to me in general and while some of the things I do can be taken the wrong way – that doesn’t seem to happen with IO. It sounds like this product is a bit different in that it actually goes a step further and promotes bonding instead of simply opening the door “to” it. I see in your list that you seem to really have experience with a lot of these social mones. The one I am most curious about right now is [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) as it seems to be a great help for the bar and club scene in particular for some people. So if you had to pick just one product between 273 and P83 for the purposes of giving your conversations in bars, clubs, or elsewhere the best chance to develope from a casual conversation to a spark to something more – which would you choose? ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 6:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/273-knocks-down-barriers-like-a-bulldozer/15895/9 "2008-07-21T06:15:45Z")
Marty, that’s a fantastic report, and an excellent job at selling a product. 😃 It’s definitely going on the list for my next purchase. I’ve just recently discovered the night club at the casino I go to frequently, and 273 sounds like just the thing to wear there. -D4 ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 3:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/273-knocks-down-barriers-like-a-bulldozer/15895/10 "2008-07-21T15:08:05Z")
Hrmm… great report MX273 sounds interesting… I’ll have to see what reactions I get with openness and then try this one out with my next order ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 3:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/273-knocks-down-barriers-like-a-bulldozer/15895/11 "2008-07-21T15:19:33Z")
So, tell me, Martyk … MX273 or [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)? Will be following your 273 journey, 'cause you definitely make is sound veDy interesting. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 3:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/273-knocks-down-barriers-like-a-bulldozer/15895/12 "2008-07-21T15:22:35Z")
I dig it because I’ve finally found something that works consistently well for me, meshes really well with my personality, and doesn’t require very high doses. I don’t think you can really compare this with just p83. P83 is great, but it’s a bit inconsistent for me. The hits, when you get them, are great, but sometimes you’ll get nothing or a negative. And you can’t really compare it to [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). It’s somewhat like a combination of the two, with some Instant Honesty like effects in it too (conversations weren’t just superficial). It’s like Man sexy, suaveness, smooth, but without making you seem “above” everyone else. Like “I feel really comfortable coming up and talking to you, and I really want to because their is just something about you I can’t put my finger on.” Not overtly sexual, but sexy, and guys just think you’re cool. It’s like people rack their brains for any reason to come up and talk to you. Meshes really well with ammo to give it some kick. Really, there’s not anything like it in the commercial lineup right now. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 3:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/273-knocks-down-barriers-like-a-bulldozer/15895/13 "2008-07-21T15:46:15Z")
> [@martyk](#): > > I don’t think you can really compare this with just p83. P83 is great, but it’s a bit inconsistent for me. The hits, when you get them, are great, but sometimes you’ll get nothing or a negative. And you can’t really compare it to Instant Openness. > > It’s somewhat like a combination of the two, with some Instant Honesty like effects in it too (conversations weren’t just superficial). It’s like Man sexy, suaveness, smooth, but without making you seem “above” everyone else. Like “I feel really comfortable coming up and talking to you, and I really want to because their is just something about you I can’t put my finger on.” Not overtly sexual, but sexy, and guys just think you’re cool. It’s like people rack their brains for any reason to come up and talk to you. Meshes really well with ammo to give it some kick. > > Really, there’s not anything like it in the commercial lineup right now. From reading on p83, it’s something used when sex is in the air or you want sex in the air … serious or fun, but sexual and very different. IO and 273 sounds like two different ice breakers. ---
**Author:** ![FIRE\_AND\_ICE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@FIRE\_AND\_ICE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FIRE_AND_ICE)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 3:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/273-knocks-down-barriers-like-a-bulldozer/15895/14 "2008-07-21T15:47:56Z")
> [@martyk](#): > > I dig it because I’ve finally found something that works consistently well for me, meshes really well with my personality, and doesn’t require very high doses. > > I don’t think you can really compare this with just p83. P83 is great, but it’s a bit inconsistent for me. The hits, when you get them, are great, but sometimes you’ll get nothing or a negative. And you can’t really compare it to Instant Openness. > > It’s somewhat like a combination of the two, with some Instant Honesty like effects in it too (conversations weren’t just superficial). It’s like Man sexy, suaveness, smooth, but without making you seem “above” everyone else. Like “I feel really comfortable coming up and talking to you, and I really want to because their is just something about you I can’t put my finger on.” Not overtly sexual, but sexy, and guys just think you’re cool. It’s like people rack their brains for any reason to come up and talk to you. Meshes really well with ammo to give it some kick. > > Really, there’s not anything like it in the commercial lineup right now. Fascinating. I really like the sounds of the product a lot, and you feel it to be consistant like current androtic products that have gone official? Right up on the leve with ammo but different enough to be combined with ammo? hmmm. I think I may give this one a shot instead of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) which seems inconsistant in reviews and in hit or even hit type. You said this product breaks down barriers – does it also break down barriers for you? In other words would someone who tends to be cautious with other people (like me) feel more comfortable and “suave” around strangers? Do the self effects speak as loudly as the effects you notice from others? ---
**Author:** ![jahmani](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jahmani/32/5172_2.png) [@jahmani](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jahmani)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 8:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/273-knocks-down-barriers-like-a-bulldozer/15895/15 "2008-07-21T20:43:03Z")
> [@martyk](#): > > But, this one has not seemed too age specific. I wore 273 alone at work and all of the older ladies seem to love me there, and the last show I went to I made good friends with a guy who runs a music shop in town who looked to be either later thirties or somewhere in his 40s. > > Three sprays I think starts to be too much for me, especially all on its own. Day I tried that I got some weird reactions from a waitress. She seemed to not want to wait my table at all, and I felt pretty out of sorts myself. Older. I’m getting lots of hits from older women, 35+, and repelling younger gals with MX273 (1 spray) with a couple exceptions. I theorize it’s like strong [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) that gives way to time released Ammo about 4 or 5 hours after application. This might be designed to call out the horny women? All those testing MX273, please note changes over time and age of hits. I’m intrigued by this MX. ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 9:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/273-knocks-down-barriers-like-a-bulldozer/15895/16 "2008-07-21T21:07:12Z")
well, like I said, the best hits from girls were on nights I mixed it with ammo, and it sure seemed to hit a few ~20’s pretty hard. maybe the time release bit is important? All the best hits I was getting did seem to happen later in the night, but I’m the kind of guy that likes to start the night early and party till the wee hours. So I just attribute the better hits happening later to the fact that everyone has a little liquid courage in their system. ---
**Author:** ![Diatris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diatris/32/1066_2.png) [@Diatris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Diatris)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 9:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/273-knocks-down-barriers-like-a-bulldozer/15895/17 "2008-07-21T21:21:24Z")
> [@martyk](#): > > Once is just a passing fad, twice is just a coincidence, but three times? Now we’re starting to see a trend. Somehow this just makes you so approachable. Like it gives out an indicator, “hey I’m fine. you fine? let’s be fine” > > For the last few weeks I’ve been wearing it to a bar I frequent. I pretty much always go to this place by myself to catch a concert. My friends are a bunch of stiffs in this regard. But hell who needs them, everytime without fail I’ve had at least one person come up to me and “hey, your here alone, I’m here alone, lets sit together and not be alone” but that’s just the way it starts, And then somehow from there I seem to just magnetically pull all sorts of cool people to me. Usually, I’m a bit of a shy dude, don’t talk to NOBODY unless I already know them. even with beer, but throw this in the mix, and I am the party king! Everyone wants to know me, and they hang on to everword as if it were a fine wine. Doesn’t even have to be deep conversation. Suddenly I’m the center. It’s really good for finding commonalities with people. > > I’ve noticed that this initially only seems to grab dudes, but not “dude” dudes, really cool dudes. It does work on girls, but they don’t seem incredibly upfront about it. If you can start a conversation with them though, wow, then they don’t want to leave. > > Now, throw in a spray or two of ammo, “oh my god, I saw you dancing, and I just felt like I know you from somewhere, hi how are you doing?” smile smile hehe. You might as well be a babe magnet. Best part is that the addition of ammo does nothing to diminish the male comeraderie. If anything, the added masculinity seems to even help you stand out a bit more as leader. Unless you happen to be that cute girl’s boyfriend. > > I could go into a play by play, but I’ve already ranted enough as it is. 273+ammo is super fine super fine. Two sprays (togo sized) of each seem to be my zone. Mid-20’s akward white guy, in a crowd of similarly aged people. ;)Very interesting report Martyk! ---
**Author:** ![vic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vic/32/1113_2.png) [@vic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vic)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 10:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/273-knocks-down-barriers-like-a-bulldozer/15895/18 "2008-07-22T10:31:17Z")
I was quite disappointed with IO, looks like 273 might work for me. Or maybe I’ll combine them. Looking forward to more reports.. ---
**Author:** ![hyper8](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hyper8/32/1965_2.png) [@hyper8](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hyper8)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 8:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/273-knocks-down-barriers-like-a-bulldozer/15895/19 "2008-07-22T20:18:37Z")
I just got my 273! Can’t wait to see how it works for me! I’m thinking of later trying a 273,[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/),Openness combo. Does that combo sound like it would work well mabey one spray each? ---
**Author:** ![jahmani](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jahmani/32/5172_2.png) [@jahmani](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jahmani)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 9:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/273-knocks-down-barriers-like-a-bulldozer/15895/20 "2008-07-22T21:08:27Z")
> [@hyper8](#): > > I just got my 273! Can’t wait to see how it works for me! I’m thinking of later trying a 273,Ammo,Openness combo. Does that combo sound like it would work well mabey one spray each? For testing purposes I plan on testing MX273 alone more, but for a practical use I would keep the [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) around and spray some on about 4 hours after the MX273 application (depending on your situation, of course). I’m thinking the buffers wear off before the -none does. Maybe, if you get the girls, you spray on the Ammo 6 hours later and keep the party going?😃 [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/273-knocks-down-barriers-like-a-bulldozer/15895.md?page=2)