# 31 Male Leaping into Friend Zone, but want more! **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [October 9, 2008, 6:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/31-male-leaping-into-friend-zone-but-want-more/21083 "2008-10-09T06:36:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 9
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 12:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/31-male-leaping-into-friend-zone-but-want-more/21083/9 "2008-10-10T00:21:24Z")
Androsterone gives a “good prospect for a LTR” signal. Two Androsterone based commercial products are A314 and [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). A314 can put people off a bit though, and it sounds as if you allready have some of that going. Try Instant Gentleman. If you want some insight into this recomendtion look up my old post on tournament and pair-bonding strategies. I’d stay away from ammo, Turn Up The Heat, and other Androstenone products for now. It sounds as if you don’t have a problem getting laid. The issue is not being seen as LTR material. Androstenone could just make that problem worse. There will be plenty of time to have fun with Androstenone once a relationship is established. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/31-male-leaping-into-friend-zone-but-want-more/21083)._