# 4 drops of A314 (base), 2 IS, 2 CTTM2, and 1 Meo-Est (went out to a dance). **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 18, 2006, 7:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/4-drops-of-a314-base-2-is-2-cttm2-and-1-meo-est-went-out-to-a-dance/156 "2006-02-18T07:22:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 12:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/4-drops-of-a314-base-2-is-2-cttm2-and-1-meo-est-went-out-to-a-dance/156/21 "2006-02-24T12:00:13Z")
> [@tacitus](#): > > It is clearly doing something. For me the most frequent experience is a sense of “getting”, holographically instead of left brain intellectually, almost like it selectively quiets the language centers in my left hemisphere and gently increases the activity of my corpus callosum, a bit like _ **when I used to stimulate my right hemisphere with directed ELF magnetic fields through a smal local coil.** _… i’ve never really considered my life as a sheltered one until i read that. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TaoistBiker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/taoistbiker/32/1117_2.png) [@TaoistBiker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TaoistBiker)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 2:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/4-drops-of-a314-base-2-is-2-cttm2-and-1-meo-est-went-out-to-a-dance/156/22 "2006-02-24T14:45:46Z")
> [@SwingerMD](#): > > I tried a CTTM2 OD (about 3 sprays) before I entered a resturant. Since I was eating alone I just sat back, enjoyed the service, and the pick up of conversation/flirting on the other tables. Pretty much like a near OD of SOE (SOE does seem to get me some attention, perhaps because of the -rone). Anyhow I’m sure the owner apprciated the large tips I saw being plunked down by the other dinners 😃 . > > -SwingerMD For me, three sprays of CTTMv2 is not an OD; especially w/4 drops of A314. It’s probably because I’m the “serious” one at the office. Outside of there (socially), two sprays breaks the ice. I can also usually wear a lot of a-none without problems _except_ at home where it sets off the ladies of the house. An OD of SOE tends to get me feeling a bit run down. At least in my case, including beta-nol tends to counter that and keep things “honestly open” instead of “on stage/flirty” open. I used to use SOE + a couple of drops of concentrated beta-nol + a little NPA doped cologne but the results weren’t nearly as consistent; probably due to variable dosing. When I use SOE, it tends to hang close to my skin and diffuse less than CTTM’s spray. Do you have the same experience? ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 11:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/4-drops-of-a314-base-2-is-2-cttm2-and-1-meo-est-went-out-to-a-dance/156/23 "2006-02-24T23:36:00Z")
> [@josef](#): > > heh. i vividly remember my first flight into narita airport, the sun was bright over what seemed like miles of rice paddies making everything golden. that was very pleasant. that pleasant feeling lasted until my > ride showed up at narita 4 hours late and about 100 dollars worth of vending machine canned drinks and 12 dollar bowls of ramen noodles later. > > that tempered it just a bit. lol. why oh why weren’t there any cute south african women there when i was there? why god why??? tokyo is cheap these days. prices have fallen over the past few years and the yen is 20% undervalued. cute south african girls - i 'm uncertain as to whether they have increased in incidence 😉 ---
**Author:** ![SwingerMD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SwingerMD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SwingerMD)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2006, 6:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/4-drops-of-a314-base-2-is-2-cttm2-and-1-meo-est-went-out-to-a-dance/156/24 "2006-02-25T06:46:05Z")
> [@](#): > > When I use SOE, it tends to hang close to my skin and diffuse less than CTTM’s spray. Do you have the same experience? For me SOE does seem to travel a little bit, definate more than oil based products such as APC or PI (I believe SOE is a not quite oil or alcohol based). The CTTM2 seems to go slightly further, but so far haven’t tried it in a very crowded resturant (there were only 3 couples there). I’m also use mones while dancing. Helps disperse them quite well 🙂 . -SwingerMD ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2006, 3:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/4-drops-of-a314-base-2-is-2-cttm2-and-1-meo-est-went-out-to-a-dance/156/25 "2006-02-25T15:02:43Z")
We need diffuser amulets ! I was considering a neck chain, the inner city heavy metal look is excessive for me, I need strong and elegant without a stare inducing BLING… attached to this perhaps a leather disk or square that would act as my radiating surface ? Thick tanned cowhide such as one can buy at the leather stores might be good, put next to the skin it warms up and gradually releases… you have to think, pheromones evolved along with skin, so there must be an intimate relationship between the electrical charges of the collagen molecules and the pheromones… although the cross linking of the tanning process may have changed aspects of this…come to think of it, one can buy leather underwear from the gay stores, hopefully it is nicely made from quality hides and wouldn’t leave bad creases on my ass… speaking as a straight man, I’ve had some very excellent sexual adventures when wearing leather clothing, women can become strangely aroused around it, I was asking myself if there was something in the aroma of the leather, it’s animal nature, combined with its texture ? Copulins and leather together are… ummmmm… tres sexuous…😃 🙄 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TaoistBiker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/taoistbiker/32/1117_2.png) [@TaoistBiker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TaoistBiker)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2006, 3:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/4-drops-of-a314-base-2-is-2-cttm2-and-1-meo-est-went-out-to-a-dance/156/26 "2006-02-25T15:37:56Z")
You could add a cover scent with leather notes as “wet leather” doesn’t always smell good on its own. There are some very sexy ones out there. ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2006, 4:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/4-drops-of-a314-base-2-is-2-cttm2-and-1-meo-est-went-out-to-a-dance/156/27 "2006-02-26T04:18:16Z")
> [@tacitus](#): > > was a result of lowering her intellectual filtering of her limbic drives ? Her description was so totally unlike my initial results… and she had added TAF, to me TAF is an obvious dopamine releaser, and DA is a prosexual neurotransmitter (as well as a pituitary agonist if I’m not mistaken, so you could have some downstream effects as well that may take longer to kick in)… thus MEO-EST + TAF + ovulation (guessing here) could possibly have a strong catalyst effect… all in the timing… Could someone who has TAF and MEO-EST please test these in high dosages around women and report back 🙂 ??? In her Jan. 6 blog post, Jasmin applied: - 50 mcg of Methoxyestratetraenone - Hours upon hours later, she applied another 50 mcg shot of MEO-EST - And then before she went out, 20 mcg each of TAL and Beta-Nol. Then the blog entry continues: **'We come home, watchin’ the boob toob, and decide to fart around with high dose ‘mone applications again. It’s three of us, me, my SO, and my friend sitting like ducks on the couch together. I think something like 75 mcg of TAF was applied to S (the friend), and J (the SO) applied something liek 2 sprays Shine to 1 spray Openness.** **As a bystander of the TAFadose I think I was feelign a little spacey and dartfocused, but that’s not nearly as interesting as…** **Well, I briefly mentioned yesterday I had a deep gutteral feeling, like my entire viscera (my guts!) was pounding. The blood surging through the heart and lungs, stomach turning, throat swelling kind of gutteral feeling. Had it again, today.** **Listen up, horndogs, this might be of use to you. I was so blindingly aroused and squirming and in heat that I’d walk somewhere crooked like an S-curve ’cause I’d rather be on all fours. That gutteral feeling was like an evolution of the one yesterday,and it made me feel like swallowing up any man in my radius. I seriously had to evacuate to the other room; my cheeks were already flush with blood and everything…’** ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2006, 2:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/4-drops-of-a314-base-2-is-2-cttm2-and-1-meo-est-went-out-to-a-dance/156/28 "2006-02-26T14:48:09Z")
I have ! I have ! didn’t accomplish much outside of the norm… I think Jasmin has particularly strong responses to dopamine. Instead of being sexual, TAF makes me too intellectual, it is a “snap out of it” phero. Minute doses of TAF do improve other phero mixes… it’s the monosodium glutamate, what is that flavor additive I have in my kitchen ? Accent flavor enhancer, you put it in soup and gravy for a bigger meatier taste… TAF is like that. ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2006, 8:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/4-drops-of-a314-base-2-is-2-cttm2-and-1-meo-est-went-out-to-a-dance/156/29 "2006-02-26T20:01:17Z")
TAF, flavour-enhancement > [@tacitus](#): > > Minute doses of TAF do improve other phero mixes… it’s the monosodium glutamate, what is that flavor additive I have in my kitchen ? Accent flavor enhancer, you put it in soup and gravy for a bigger meatier taste… TAF is like that. As well as enhancing the effects of other mixes, it’s worth noting that it’s also like MSG in a rather literal sense. TAF-ed up, I made the mistake of ordering my regular gin and tonic. Screeching bitterness - tasted worse than the first time I tried a G&T. Curious to better know the intensity of the effects of second-hand exposure on others. Unless intra-dermal absorption is important, I imagine it ought to be almost as strong since my application was to back of neck and wrists to reduce direct inhalation. Would be interesting to try a diffusion experiment with just TAF in a restaurant or at a dinner party. I wonder if it noticeably modulates peoples’ experience of dining. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2006, 10:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/4-drops-of-a314-base-2-is-2-cttm2-and-1-meo-est-went-out-to-a-dance/156/30 "2006-02-27T22:45:55Z")
> [@josef](#): > > i’ve never really considered my life as a sheltered one until i read that. 🙂 Hilarious! Here. Get yourself a light version of the infamous Persinger helmet: [http://www.innerworlds.50megs.com/](http://www.innerworlds.50megs.com/) ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 6:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/4-drops-of-a314-base-2-is-2-cttm2-and-1-meo-est-went-out-to-a-dance/156/31 "2007-01-30T18:12:17Z")
> [@tacitus](#): > > It is clearly doing something. For me the most frequent experience is a sense of “getting”, holographically instead of left brain intellectually, almost like it selectively quiets the language centers in my left hemisphere and gently increases the activity of my corpus callosum, a bit like when I used to stimulate my right hemisphere with directed ELF magnetic fields through a smal local coil… if I were 20 years younger and highly hormonally jacked, my experience might be wildly unlike that, as Jasmin reported to us… or it could be significantly sexually dimorphic… my first take on this is that it signals a developed relationship that has gone beyond sexual pressures and has matured into a generalized understanding of the other member of the reltionship. bump… any more discoveries wrt meo-est? either with photosonix or as component of relationship/hang-out mix (you mention having some luck with the P80-90s in this area). my new photosonix nova pro 100 just arrived… head dizzy at the prospective combinatorics of mones, hypno tapes + photosonix programs. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 11:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/4-drops-of-a314-base-2-is-2-cttm2-and-1-meo-est-went-out-to-a-dance/156/32 "2007-01-31T11:17:28Z")
Does anyone know of any brainwave generator preset with a similar effect? That would be interesting.. ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 12:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/4-drops-of-a314-base-2-is-2-cttm2-and-1-meo-est-went-out-to-a-dance/156/33 "2008-07-28T12:35:13Z")
> [@PheroQuirk](#): > > my new photosonix nova pro 100 just arrived… head dizzy at the prospective combinatorics of pheromones, hypno tapes + photosonix programs. Hey PQ, when you have time can you please answer (in a PM or on this thread) where you got a version of this Photosonix Nova Pro 100 with the UK voltage (230-240 V)? Does the Photosonix Nova Pro 100 have a worldwide voltage (110-240 V)? I am in Australia and don’t want to order something which won’t work here and I understand the UK has the same Voltage (though I would get an adaptor for the different plugs of course)… Thanks, Visionary. ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 1:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/4-drops-of-a314-base-2-is-2-cttm2-and-1-meo-est-went-out-to-a-dance/156/34 "2008-07-28T13:36:37Z")
> [@Socrates](#): > > Hey PQ, > > when you have time can you please answer (in a PM or on this thread) where you got a version of this Photosonix Nova Pro 100 with the UK voltage (230-240 V)? Does the Photosonix Nova Pro 100 have a worldwide voltage (110-240 V)? > > I am in Australia and don’t want to order something which won’t work here and I understand the UK has the same Voltage (though I would get an adaptor for the different plugs of course)… > > Thanks, > Visionary. I bought it from a UK supplier, but they shipped it with a US power supply. Luckily I had a suitable multi-voltage PSU lying around, and that seems to work okay… ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 9:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/4-drops-of-a314-base-2-is-2-cttm2-and-1-meo-est-went-out-to-a-dance/156/35 "2008-07-29T09:36:42Z")
> [@PheroQuirk](#): > > I bought it from a UK supplier, but they shipped it with a US power supply. Luckily I had a suitable multi-voltage PSU lying around, and that seems to work okay… Thanks! It looks like I’ll have to do the same… [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/4-drops-of-a314-base-2-is-2-cttm2-and-1-meo-est-went-out-to-a-dance/156.md?page=1)