# 4 drops of A314 (base), 2 IS, 2 CTTM2, and 1 Meo-Est (went out to a dance). **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 18, 2006, 7:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/4-drops-of-a314-base-2-is-2-cttm2-and-1-meo-est-went-out-to-a-dance/156 "2006-02-18T07:22:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 5
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 11:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/4-drops-of-a314-base-2-is-2-cttm2-and-1-meo-est-went-out-to-a-dance/156/5 "2006-02-21T11:14:58Z")
> [@SwingerMD](#): > > Just got my 1st order delivered to me (a few days ago). I have Instant shine, CTTM2, and Meo-Est at 30 mcg per spray. > > On my first time out I used 4 drops of A314 (base), 2 IS, 2 CTTM2, and 1 Meo-Est (went out to a dance). For the first 20-30 min I waited by the stage to test the approachability power of this mix. You’d never get approachability with that much A314. With that amount, you probably wouldn’t even get much approachability when paired with massive amounts of an alpha androtstenol based product. A314 displays status/higher value – a “DHV”. It makes it easier for _you_ to approach others, with much higher than normal certainty that you’ll a positive response. With A314, other people will be much more accepting of your advances and your intentions, but at the same time, the display of higher value will vastly reduce the number of people who would’ve approached you. You could say tht you are more intimidating with A314, but it’s not in an aggressive way like you are sometimes with androstenone. No one will be frightened of _you_. Rather, most people will be too afraid they’re going to bother you or waste your time. They’re plenty comfortable around you, but _respectful_. It’s a VIP effect that most people haven’t experienced previously. The bottom line is that if you’re not comfortable initiating, A314 is not for you. Generally people feel more “comfortable” approaching someone “safe” to them. That’s usually someone outwardly fun (Shine has a "fun’ vibe, whereas A314 is more “serious”), or of lower value (one reason why plain looking girls tend to have the more boyfriends and the bigger heads than the prettiest.) Come Talk To Me Mix 2, despite it’s name, also isn’t great at making you more approachable. It’s a wonderful conduit once someone starts talking (even a “hello” will do), but it will rarely make a people start talking out of nowhere in the way that mix higher in alpha androstenol sometimes will. > [@SwingerMD](#): > > I was asked by only one person. After 30 min I started asking people. Once dancing I did notice a lot of great dance connection and shrinking personal space. I also had a lot of lingering conversations after each dance (this is unusual), and there were several who were willing to dance with me several more times before the night was over (very unusual). Okay, great… you started initiating. You get a lot of fondness and trust from A314, and a good feeling and melting of personal barriers from Shine (the shrinking of personal space). The CTTM, too, helps people feel that they’ve known you for quite a while – a great communication tool once a conversation or relationship is started. > [@](#): > > I haven’t tried Meo-Est since (Wed). The Meo-Est is a wildcard. I like to see hundreds of comments (but will settle at around 40), before I begin to comment on perceived patterns, but it’s definitely a wildcard. I haven’t done any paid research on it yet, and don’t expect to for awhile. At least it doesn’t seem to be predominantly negative, which is good. When you’re dealing with completely [putative pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/product-category/advanced-pheromones/putative-pheromones/), you never quite know if they’ll be positive, negative, or a complete dud. All that said, I’m very interested in whatever results you get with it. You may want to test it alone, without using it with other pheromones. That’ll allow you to better tune into it’s unique character. > [@](#): > > From the sound of it, I may have to try it out with TAF and/or TAL. I’d try SMALL amounts of TAH and TAL (2.5mcg to 20mcg) with the masculine pheromones in A314 and Shine. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/4-drops-of-a314-base-2-is-2-cttm2-and-1-meo-est-went-out-to-a-dance/156)._