# 80-90% Game, 10-20% Pheromones

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [November 21, 2006, 9:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/80-90-game-10-20-pheromones/929 "2006-11-21T09:52:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 3:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/80-90-game-10-20-pheromones/929/10 "2006-11-22T15:02:37Z")

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> Interestingly, I have noticed that people seem to be impressed by my presence when I’m there, and I’m being just totally comfortable… but not saying a word. It’s like they interpret this as “ubercool”, when really, I just didn’t know anyone well enough to make comment yet. I was just gathering my resources before jumping into the conversation.

Which component do you think is communicating this? Rone/A314?

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> It’s also critically important that you wear the right pheromones at the right dose and at the right time… which is difficult at best without some way of predicting results. Only practice and keen observation gets that part.

Ah… I think there is an ebook to be written on this at some point. Jas mentioned on a thread elsewhere that optimal phero-enhanced game might also be subtly different.

So using Mystery’s Find Open Attract Rapport Close model, how does one need to behave differently, and which mones/doses work best at different stages?

Some unorganised and very basic thoughts on how mones change things are below. Love to hear thoughts on how we can develop this.

a) makes it easier to open, because you have already grabbed her attention. Androstenol makes you more approachable also.  
b)social proof. “he’s kind of cute… hey all the other girls are looking at him too so he must be hot”. Mystery’s ‘pre-selected by women’ aspect  
c) DHV just through phero-shaped perception of personality. if you had never heard of Richard Branson and he was dressed simply but he approached you in a bar you would still have a very strong initial impression. (obviously it’s in part demeanour, but pheros help).  
perhaps this makes it more important to show interest at the right point. (even sans pheros I only realised quite recently that some girls are too intimidated to show interest even if they like you lots).  
d)elicitation of values, rapport etc. beta -Androstenol! but need to steer (and/or give her an excuse for such intimate conversation so early on) otherwise she might feel weird about having revealed so much to you.  
e)trust/safety - A314 ?  
f)attraction… perhaps one should just be aware that maybe this phase can be accelerated by none/ Androstenol etc. need to provide a reason why she might feels this way otherwise regret later on ?

I think there is also probably a synergy between some of the NLP/Ross Jeffries stuff and pheromones. Likely one can induce certain states much more easily (and perhaps be bolder) with the right phero background music. (+ Tacitus’ adventures in hypothalmic modulation via coloured lights + burbling streams).

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