# A big hit without pheros! Judge it!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-big-hit-without-pheros-judge-it/32562>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [September 17, 2009, 11:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-big-hit-without-pheros-judge-it/32562 "2009-09-17T23:36:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 11:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-big-hit-without-pheros-judge-it/32562/1 "2009-09-17T23:36:23Z")

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Ok this is a story, about a boy/man that doesn’t have pheros but still got phero like hits. It’s crazy, it’s wild, but you have to read.

First off, I have yet to make a final decision on A314 or Ammo but I decided to act like I had wore them to see how effective I could be without them for experimentation purposes.

So as I get out of the car I make sure to give myself a good posture, I put in my headphones and proceed to walk toward class with a sense of authority yet maintaining a “cool” vibe. I get to math class, nothing much happens due to a test we take but I felt extremely confident and felt I did good. People did treat me as the “top guy” but that was because I made sure to look everyone in the face and give a slight smile. This made a world of difference as they were much more talkative even though we were about to take a test and they also treated me with a lot of respect.

Next class: English. I make a quick phone call to check and wait outside the door. There were no girls but there were two guys who I made quick convo with, nothing big. My friend comes and we talk a bit before my girl of interest shows up. Me and my friend keep talking but I position myself in a way so that I can clearly see her. I call her name, “R” and she turns. I ask simply in a playful voice “Did that paper?” She nods I then say with mock authority “That’s what I’m talking about, OK!” She bursts out laughing and we immediately enter into a convo in which she gives me FULL attention.

We go inside the classroom and I was essentially the superstar. I was cracking jokes with the girl beside me (who I’m trying to get with, BOW CHICA WOW WOW) and she was all into me. I thought I had [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) on because she was saying how I’m the only boy she talks to 🆒 and how she moved here from Alabama, yada yada. Oh and how she lives at her own apartment ALONE.😃 WOOF WOOF!!!

Think it’s over yet? WRONG! I go to the commons to do some work and there is this lady sitting there (6 out of 10) so I decide to shoot her Hi and a smile which she responds with by smiling back. After a quiet minute she asks me a question, I answer and BAM! an hour long conversation in which she told me about ALL her plans for school, about how she’s 29 and how I act so mature (I’m 18). At the end she gives me her phone # which I’m wondering if I should call back but anyway, yeah.

Moral of the story? You MUST INITIATE TO GET RESULTS! Thanks for reading guys and feel free to give me some tips about any of the above women and some good pheros.

BOW CHICA WOW WOW!!!

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**Author:** ![rhuang22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rhuang22/32/636_2.png) [@rhuang22](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rhuang22)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 12:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-big-hit-without-pheros-judge-it/32562/2 "2009-09-18T00:47:03Z")

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Haha. Well that’s definitely hits without [pheromones](https://a314.com/). It’s people skills. It’s swagger. It’s game. You have got it 😃

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**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 1:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-big-hit-without-pheros-judge-it/32562/3 "2009-09-18T01:26:11Z")

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> [@rhuang22](#):
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> Haha. Well that’s definitely hits without pheromones. It’s people skills. It’s swagger. It’s game. You have got it 😃

Lol, thanks man. The point of my whole experiment was just to show some of the guys that still think pheros are “instant fuck me” potions that a lot of the responsibility stills falls on you.

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**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 1:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-big-hit-without-pheros-judge-it/32562/4 "2009-09-18T01:29:27Z")

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> [@K-Train](#):
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> Lol, thanks man. The point of my whole experiment was just to show some of the guys that still think pheros are “instant fuck me” potions that a lot of the responsibility stills falls on you.

Very true! 🙂 The pheros can help but they don’t carry the weight like being confident will.

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**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 2:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-big-hit-without-pheros-judge-it/32562/5 "2009-09-18T02:59:59Z")

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A year ago I didn’t fully understand the confidence factor. But what helped me was that I just started saying “you know what, I’m gonna go out and live life and meet people at college. F what people say.” I can’t wait to see how adding A314 will affect me.

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**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 5:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-big-hit-without-pheros-judge-it/32562/6 "2009-09-18T17:56:19Z")

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Sorry for the double post but I just wanted to thank you guys for the nominations. I feel…so honored _tears roll down cheeks_

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**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 6:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-big-hit-without-pheros-judge-it/32562/7 "2009-09-18T18:03:36Z")

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definite reps for this.

fantastic way to put your ‘game face’ on and fucking OWN that shit. if you have this kind of swagger and game without the pheros.. holy shit watch out when you do decide to start experimenting and testing. you’re gonna leave a path of destruction behind you comparable to hurricane katrina

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**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 8:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-big-hit-without-pheros-judge-it/32562/8 "2009-09-18T20:03:30Z")

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> [@Reclipse](#):
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> definite reps for this.
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> fantastic way to put your ‘game face’ on and fucking OWN that shit. if you have this kind of swagger and game without the pheros.. holy shit watch out when you do decide to start experimenting and testing. you’re gonna leave a path of destruction behind you comparable to hurricane katrina

ROFL, thanks man!😃 I mean I was ON that day, just…on. There is no other way I could say it. I just let go of my doubts and just went for it, lol.

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**Author:** ![Vaccine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vaccine/32/2381_2.png) [@Vaccine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vaccine)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 8:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-big-hit-without-pheros-judge-it/32562/9 "2009-09-18T20:17:26Z")

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It’s heartening to see someone newer understanding what mones are/do.

It has been said many ways, but you have to work it. Some think there is an ethical issue, which I disagree with. It is similar to a girl dressed to kill or made up beautifully, those things will attract, but still won’t do all the work.

In the [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) success formula, YOU are the biggest ingredient.

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**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 4:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-big-hit-without-pheros-judge-it/32562/10 "2009-09-19T04:23:32Z")

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> [@Vaccine](#):
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> It’s heartening to see someone newer understanding what mones are/do.
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> It has been said many ways, but you have to work it. Some think there is an ethical issue, which I disagree with. It is similar to a girl dressed to kill or made up beautifully, those things will attract, but still won’t do all the work.
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> In the pheromone success formula, YOU are the biggest ingredient.

All the above is just so true. But when I first started using pheros I always thought they would do the grunt work for me. It took me about 2 years to finally figure this stuff out. It’s a long way up the mountain but it sure is beautiful when you reach the top.

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**Author:** ![Vaccine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vaccine/32/2381_2.png) [@Vaccine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vaccine)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 5:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-big-hit-without-pheros-judge-it/32562/11 "2009-09-19T05:25:13Z")

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> [@K-Train](#):
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> All the above is just so true. But when I first started using pheros I always thought they would do the grunt work for me. It took me about 2 years to finally figure this stuff out. It’s a long way up the mountain but it sure is beautiful when you reach the top.

That’s just it. They won’t do the grunt work for you. They are they dirty little bastards that change things. If you have no chance they can’t help. If you do, they’ll turn the tide.

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**Author:** ![tezza23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tezza23/32/1375_2.png) [@tezza23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tezza23)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 8:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-big-hit-without-pheros-judge-it/32562/12 "2009-09-19T08:55:56Z")

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> [@](#):
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> A year ago I didn’t fully understand the confidence factor. But what helped me was that I just started saying “you know what, I’m gonna go out and live life and meet people at college. F what people say.” I can’t wait to see how adding [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) will affect me.

K-Train, I’ve only just started using A314 but I’m very impressed with it already. I think it will make it even easier for you to do what you’re already doing, and magnify your results.

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**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 2:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-big-hit-without-pheros-judge-it/32562/13 "2009-09-19T14:31:28Z")

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> [@tezza23](#):
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> K-Train, I’ve only just started using A314 but I’m very impressed with it already. I think it will make it even easier for you to do what you’re already doing, and magnify your results.

Really? That’s great new Tezza!😃 How much do you use? Are you using it for work or for social interactions?

Oh and great point Vaccine. Pheros are kinda like CoffeeMate, if you don’t have the mocha, the CoffeeMate is worthless!
