# A bizarre Honesty hit **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 10, 2007, 9:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-bizarre-honesty-hit/5486 "2007-09-10T21:42:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![snook\_assassin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snook_assassin/32/1107_2.png) [@snook\_assassin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snook_assassin)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 9:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-bizarre-honesty-hit/5486/1 "2007-09-10T21:42:24Z")
Well… I’m not sure if it could be called a hit… just read on… So, there’s a target that I’ve been ITCHING to try honesty on this target… I’ve known her for a few years, and she’s always had a reputation as a liar. I’ve caught her totally red-handed in the past lying right to my face. So, needless to say, since I got my [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), I’ve been actively trying to get her close to me while I’m wearing this stuff, just to see how a pathological liar would react to a pheromonal “truth serum”, if you will. So, last night was the night. I was at my local coffee house, listening to jazz, and enjoying my latte thoroughly, when she comes up behind me and just flops into my lap like she always has. The biggest smile crossed my face, and she must have sensed me being kinda devious, because she asked me what that look was all about. I say nothing, offer her some java, she accepts, and we adjourn to the back porch for some conversation. So, we’re out back, and after a few minutes, I notice her starting to get all shifty and uncomfortable. She keeps looking around, as if waiting for someone to come save her. So, I set her in a truth trap. I ask her about something that she lied to me about some time ago, that I always knew was a lie, but could never confirm. She panicked. bad. Started looking very, very uncomfortable, and actually went for her phone, pretended to answer it, said she had to take the call, and practically ran away from me! (we have the same make and model phone, and even set to vibrate only for the ring, it’s still easily audible.) Didn’t see her again for the rest of the night, nor did she answer my “are you okay?” call back to her. So, here’s my theory on this event: I think that when soemone builds up enough lies in their lives, enough to where they have a self-sustaining network of lies, that Instant Honesty acts as a repellant to them, since they are now so uncomfortable telling the truth, even in inconsequential situations. this -mone makes them to tell the truth, but their warped and mildly deranged social filters won’t allow that, they get confused and have to leave. Has anyone else had a similar experience to this? _Note: 'm fairly certain that it was the IH that caused this reaction from her. I’ve asked her in the past about the same situation, and she always kept a cool demeanor, and stuck to her guns, making the lie she told unverifiable either way, a “my-word-vs.yours” scenario._ ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 10:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-bizarre-honesty-hit/5486/2 "2007-09-10T22:45:28Z")
hmmm…yeah… _pathological liars_ are come in different flavors, some are pathetic worms with low self esteem that live in parallel universes, the hardcores are sociopaths who massively get off on the control aspect of lying, they use lying to mess with peoples minds (otherwise known as “gaslighting” ) and thereby make them confused and weakened so they can exert control… it’s a power gambit basically… a sickypoo headtrip… so the key to their game is control… they have a very high level of self control generally and they believe-imagine-fantasize that this high degree of emotional control gives them “affective dominance” which is what they crave and live for… dominance over weaker psyches… now, sly individual that you are, you exposed her to a situation where she was experiencing emotions and thought processes which she equates with weakness and “losing the control game”… i.e. candor and honest emotion… so what freaked out this lovely individual was the emergence of honest thoughts within herself… which must seem most alien and strange from her point of view… OTOH… that is also the beautiful liberating thing about the same [pheromones](https://a314.com/) in a good relationship… the authenic self is a lot more available to work and play with, layers of bullshit and obfuscation come peeling off and you can be together in some pretty profound ways because, precisely, these control issues can be resolved and things that need to be said can get said, freely and directly. If someone is a hardcore bullshitter what happens is this: they, all of the sudden and out of the blue get in touch with the reality that they are hardcore bullshitters, and all that implies… ---
**Author:** ![snook\_assassin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snook_assassin/32/1107_2.png) [@snook\_assassin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snook_assassin)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 11:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-bizarre-honesty-hit/5486/3 "2007-09-10T23:00:11Z")
> [@](#): > > If someone is a hardcore bullshitter what happens is this: they, all of the sudden and out of the blue get in touch with the reality that they are hardcore bullshitters, and all that implies… I think that may the case with this fine specimen female… she’s so used to lying all the time, that the honest feelings were SO foreign to her, so her _ONLY AVAILABLE REACTION_ was to tuck tail and haul ass! I would love to get her in a sealed room with a bottle of 2X IH in a diffuser, and just watch her freak out! (Okay, so that may seem a little harsh from an outside perspective, but this young lady’s like a cockroach… you try and try and try to get rid of her, and she always sneaks back in somehow… And I refuse to use pesticides because of my cats, so I’ll just ward her off with a cloud of honesty! BWA-HA-HAAAAAAAA!!!) ---
**Author:** ![The\_GQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@The\_GQ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_GQ)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 11:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-bizarre-honesty-hit/5486/4 "2007-09-10T23:15:04Z")
> [@snook\_assassin](#): > > I think that may the case with this fine specimen female… she’s so used to lying all the time, that the honest feelings were SO foreign to her, so her _ONLY AVAILABLE REACTION_ was to tuck tail and haul ass! > > I would love to get her in a sealed room with a bottle of 2X Instant Honesty in a diffuser, and just watch her freak out! (Okay, so that may seem a little harsh from an outside perspective, but this young lady’s like a cockroach… you try and try and try to get rid of her, and she always sneaks back in somehow… And I refuse to use pesticides because of my cats, so I’ll just ward her off with a cloud of honesty! BWA-HA-HAAAAAAAA!!!) 4X Strength her! rofl, great report bro and great insight into the topic Tacitus! Reps for both of you gentlemen.😃 Talk about a really crazy reaction, that’s a real eye opener, I now ponder how she will react to 2X strength or the dreaded 4x strength. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 11:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-bizarre-honesty-hit/5486/5 "2007-09-10T23:50:01Z")
Well, I’ve had to deal with my share of emotional and financial cockroaches… and discussed this problems with my straight shooting women… the feedback I got is that the real women detest these pieces of work a lot more than the men do, because they see what they’re up to, they play dirty as hell, especially gifted at rumormongering and getting people to distrust each other with sly little innuendos and hints they conveniently drop, they seem to exist for the purpose of f\*cking up other people’s connections, and they’re damn good at it, as you’d expect after a lifetime of practice… my veddy, veedy HAWT Cuban GF is this tough as nails no BS heart of gold sweetheart, and she got badly messed by such a cockroach, the strange thing, it seems like a diagnostic constant with this type, is you can’t get rid of them ! We were discussing this particular case, both of us spontaneously said at the same time…“they stick to you like glue !!”… and boy do they… soooo freaking manipulative, always looking around for a button to push, a string to pull, or… their _specialite du maison_… Le Sob Story… like… _Oh How Arful ! This Bitch was soooo mean to her, you see, and it’s all soooo Twagik ! Boo Hoo… Maybe U can save me ??? Bwink Bwink Bwink…🆒 🆒 🆒 🆒_ ---
**Author:** ![snook\_assassin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snook_assassin/32/1107_2.png) [@snook\_assassin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snook_assassin)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 12:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-bizarre-honesty-hit/5486/6 "2007-09-11T00:21:36Z")
Oh, man, Tacitus… I just had to say thank you for giving me something to do! I was bored at work tonight until I read this last post, and while taking a nice, long swallow of my Pepsi (the choice of a new generation!) I got to the last line with the fantastically translated “Twagik” and promptly spit Pepsi all over my monitor. You basically told the story of this particular gem I was dealing with that night. And GQ, I was using 2X Honesty that day… Makes me want to order 4X, use 2 sprays to each forearm, put on a slicker, walk up and hug the Little Lady, and watch as she twitches and then explodes like the Fembots in Austin Powers did… ---
**Author:** ![The\_GQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@The\_GQ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_GQ)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 12:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-bizarre-honesty-hit/5486/7 "2007-09-11T00:37:42Z")
> [@snook\_assassin](#): > > Oh, man, Tacitus… I just had to say thank you for giving me something to do! I was bored at work tonight until I read this last post, and while taking a nice, long swallow of my Pepsi (the choice of a new generation!) I got to the last line with the fantastically translated “Twagik” and promptly spit Pepsi all over my monitor. You basically told the story of this particular gem I was dealing with that night. And GQ, I was using 2X Honesty that day… Makes me want to order 4X, use 2 sprays to each forearm, put on a slicker, walk up and hug the Little Lady, and watch as she twitches and then explodes like the Fembots in Austin Powers did… lol! at the exploding fembots comparison, I have a feeling she actually will malfunction with the 4x IH, it will be like watching Superman exposed to kryptonite. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![happytolive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/eb9ed0/32.png) [@happytolive](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happytolive)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 1:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-bizarre-honesty-hit/5486/8 "2007-09-11T01:37:01Z")
Heh, I really think you should do it. Confront her again about a lie wearing even more [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)! “Is there anything you want to tell me?” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![snook\_assassin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snook_assassin/32/1107_2.png) [@snook\_assassin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snook_assassin)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 2:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-bizarre-honesty-hit/5486/9 "2007-09-11T02:19:40Z")
I will, and I’ll keep you updated to the situation. heh heh heh… this will be fun… _evil grin_ ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 2:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-bizarre-honesty-hit/5486/10 "2007-09-11T02:55:13Z")
> [@happytolive](#): > > Heh, I really think you should do it. Confront her again about a lie wearing even more Instant Honesty! “Is there anything you want to tell me?” 🙂 Since you already know she lied, she’s a liar, and hopefully, you’re not subconsciously STILL attracted to her … I wouldn’t waste my product. 🆒 Most times … doodoo is best left where it is. 🙄 The other times … tis best on the bottom/side of the shoe **s** of someone you dislike. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 4:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-bizarre-honesty-hit/5486/11 "2007-09-11T16:45:13Z")
That’s the strange beauty of pheromones… they can be like X-Ray glasses… out of nowhere you’re seeing through the out social layers… and what do we find under all that paint ? Solid first growth hardwood ? Cheap tree farm pine ? The Greeks had this idea of Harmatia… the tragic flaw, the blind spot… it is the weak link that causes the entire chain to fail… I tend to think of it as “the message you need to hear but can’t or won’t”… at that intersection of fate pheromones may be life changing, they might put you into the state of mind where you _can_ hear the thing you need to hear, or see clearly the thing you need to see… _“character is destiny”_ - hereclitus