# A few things I've been wondering. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 9, 2009, 11:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-few-things-ive-been-wondering/33958 "2009-11-09T23:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TheGoon6](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegoon6/32/435_2.png) [@TheGoon6](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheGoon6)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 11:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-few-things-ive-been-wondering/33958/1 "2009-11-09T23:35:49Z")
So wait, Dirty and [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) are only Pre-releases? I’m assuming that this means they’ll be releasing more soon and more regularly? And how come I have heard almost nothing about them on the forum? Not that popular of a product? Also, how much more would ordering the new AMMO in Neroli instead of FF22 cost? And why exactly are they changing the scent of Ammo anyway? Isn’t the cologne Ammo’s claim to fame? I thought that was part of why it was such a big deal? ---
**Author:** ![allstarmvp256](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/allstarmvp256/32/1867_2.png) [@allstarmvp256](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allstarmvp256)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 11:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-few-things-ive-been-wondering/33958/2 "2009-11-09T23:54:49Z")
> [@TheGoon6](#): > > And why exactly are they changing the scent of Ammo anyway? Isn’t the cologne Ammo’s claim to fame? I thought that was part of why it was such a big deal? I was wondering the same, I just bought the togo version of the new ammo and the first time I smell it, I knew I wouldn’t be wearing that stuff (a horrible, flowery, chemical, feminine smell). Its a shame because I heard the effects of ammo are pretty good…guess I won’t find that out. ---
**Author:** ![TheGoon6](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegoon6/32/435_2.png) [@TheGoon6](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheGoon6)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 12:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-few-things-ive-been-wondering/33958/3 "2009-11-10T00:11:24Z")
> [@allstarmvp256](#): > > I was wondering the same, I just bought the togo version of the new ammo and the first time I smell it, I knew I wouldn’t be wearing that stuff (a horrible, flowery, chemical, feminine smell). Its a shame because I heard the effects of ammo are pretty good…guess I won’t find that out. Yeah, I heard FF22 smells like Laundry Detergent. I hate the smell of laundry detergent so much. I specifically get unscented detergent because of it. Bleh, I would be so upset if I was forced to get it. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 1:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-few-things-ive-been-wondering/33958/4 "2009-11-10T01:11:22Z")
From what I’ve read they are still fine tuning things with the scent. They had a FF21 limited run, and they have FF22 now (don’t know if it’s still in stock). My understanding is that FF22 may or may not be the “official” scent of AMMO and that they are waiting to hear more reports about how the scent works with the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) in AMMO. So help us out and try it! lol. Be sure to report back how it goes. ---
**Author:** ![TheGoon6](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegoon6/32/435_2.png) [@TheGoon6](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheGoon6)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 1:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-few-things-ive-been-wondering/33958/5 "2009-11-10T01:19:08Z")
Would if I could. Just need to get my hands on some first. If I hate the scent, I can always return it, right? ---
**Author:** ![allstarmvp256](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/allstarmvp256/32/1867_2.png) [@allstarmvp256](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allstarmvp256)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 1:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-few-things-ive-been-wondering/33958/6 "2009-11-10T01:31:19Z")
> [@scotties123](#): > > So help us out and try it! lol. Be sure to report back how it goes. lol well if you were talking to me Ill go ahead and try the ammo eventhough I may not enjoy the smell.☹ ---
**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 1:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-few-things-ive-been-wondering/33958/7 "2009-11-10T01:32:11Z")
Ah, memories. 🙂 I don’t know about Raw Power, but Dirty was like a turbocharged version of [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) in oil form if I remember correctly. When Androtics exhausted their supply of copulins, Dirty was pulled. You’ll only hear about them if you go back a few years to 2006 and 2007. Read up on some of the posts from the older members. Dirty was intended for men, but CountessZero used it to good effect and she’s female. As for changing the scent of Ammo, have a read through this: [New fragrances coming -- your input wanted on future scents](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-fragrances-coming-your-input-wanted-on-future-scents/31241) Musk ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 1:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-few-things-ive-been-wondering/33958/8 "2009-11-10T01:35:21Z")
> [@allstarmvp256](#): > > lol well if you were talking to me Ill go ahead and try the ammo eventhough I may not enjoy the smell.☹ I’m not trying to force you into using something you don’t like lol. Maybe try it on the back or top of your head so you don’t get bothered by the smell? I’ve heard it smells quite different from the FF22 sampler scent (due to mones mixing with it), and that it is quite strong when first applied, but that the scent dies down after a little bit. ---
**Author:** ![TheGoon6](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegoon6/32/435_2.png) [@TheGoon6](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheGoon6)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 1:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-few-things-ive-been-wondering/33958/9 "2009-11-10T01:40:59Z")
> [@MuskCloud](#): > > Ah, memories. 🙂 > > I don’t know about Raw Power, but Dirty was like a turbocharged version of Instant Jerk in oil form if I remember correctly. When Androtics exhausted their supply of copulins, Dirty was pulled. > > You’ll only hear about them if you go back a few years to 2006 and 2007. Read up on some of the posts from the older members. Dirty was intended for men, but CountessZero used it to good effect and she’s female. Aww, so they’re never coming back? ---
**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 1:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-few-things-ive-been-wondering/33958/10 "2009-11-10T01:42:49Z")
> [@TheGoon6](#): > > Aww, so they’re never coming back? I honestly don’t know. Musk ---
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 3:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-few-things-ive-been-wondering/33958/11 "2009-11-10T03:22:50Z")
looks like a few of you have read my review :o i’ll say this much: try it. your feedback can only help. you can customize the scents in the 30 ml bottles only of the consumer line, and it seems like ammo is not an available option. [Men’s Fragrance Customization :: Custom Additions :: Androtics Direct](https://a314.com/)