# A gay, transgender guy and his pheromones **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [January 10, 2016, 3:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-gay-transgender-guy-and-his-pheromones/65455 "2016-01-10T03:32:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![zedster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zedster/32/1715_2.png) [@zedster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zedster)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2016, 7:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-gay-transgender-guy-and-his-pheromones/65455/21 "2016-01-17T19:43:51Z")
Two more days of pheromones to share coming soon: me playing with Ammo, IS, and IO in gay settings. Stay tuned! ---
**Author:** ![HankBuddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f04885/32.png) [@HankBuddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HankBuddy)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2016, 8:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-gay-transgender-guy-and-his-pheromones/65455/22 "2016-01-17T20:11:08Z")
When you’re done testing 3 drops, I’d be curious about your experience when you use two drops on a date or in a more social setting. For work, try adding IH to A314. This might get you in the right circles quicker. ---
**Author:** ![zedster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zedster/32/1715_2.png) [@zedster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zedster)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2016, 8:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-gay-transgender-guy-and-his-pheromones/65455/23 "2016-01-17T20:50:00Z")
> [@HankBuddy](#): > > When you’re done testing 3 drops, I’d be curious about your experience when you use two drops on a date or in a more social setting. > > For work, try adding IH to A314. This might get you in the right circles quicker. I rarely socialize outside of a work context, so it’ll be a double experiment for me 😛 Thanks for the tip on IH. I got some with my recent order, so I’ll try it this week. ---
**Author:** ![zedster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zedster/32/1715_2.png) [@zedster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zedster)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 3:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-gay-transgender-guy-and-his-pheromones/65455/24 "2016-02-02T03:52:14Z")
**Situation** I attended a gay happy hour after work on a rainy Friday evening. The event had undertones of sex, so I figured it would be appropriate to try out TUTH and Ammo. **Pheromones** (it was so long ago and so much has happened since, I forget exact dosages) A314: 2 drops earlier in the day, didn’t reapply Ammo (summer edition): 2-3 sprays: neck and wrists. TUTH: 2 sprays (I think) IS: I believe I wore some, 2 sprays **Observations** To be honest…I didn’t notice anything. I didn’t feel any sexier (ha ha). Walking to the happy hour, I didn’t notice any reactions of people on the street, but I also tend to keep my head down when in public (I hate eye contact). I did get a huge, long hug from the host when I arrived after struggling to find the group, but I think he’s just super friendly like that. Hard to say when I don’t really know how he normally acts (it was my first time meeting him). Conversations flowed well, but I’ve gotten pretty good at doing small talk, so I can’t say for sure mones played any part. I left once my chatting partner said goodnight and I didn’t feel socially outgoing (I never go up and strike a conversation with people, with or without mones!) **Conclusion** I couldn’t get any reads and didn’t notice any self-effects. It could be I had way too much going on. Will need to test out single mones on their own a couple of times to get a better read. Or try upping the dosage. ---
**Author:** ![zedster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zedster/32/1715_2.png) [@zedster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zedster)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 3:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-gay-transgender-guy-and-his-pheromones/65455/25 "2016-02-02T03:54:40Z")
**Situation** The following day I had a lunch event with some of the same gay guys from the happy hour and several other gay men. This lunch was for a hobbyist group. I decided to tone down the TUTH but up the Ammo. I was probably among the younger in the group (30s–70s, with about half in their 30s and half in their 50s and up). **Pheromones** (it was so long ago and so much has happened since, I forget exact dosages) Ammo (summer edition): 2–3 sprays: neck, chest, and wrists. TUTH: 1 spray (I think) IS: Again, I believe I wore some, probably 2 sprays **Observations** Two small observations that may have been signs: at the lunch, we were all sitting together quite closely since the room was small and there were a lot of us. I was at a table with a good mix of older and younger guys. The guy directly in front of me and to my right were both 50s or 60s. The one on my left I forget because we didn’t really talk. The guy next to me kept talking, not in an annoying way, but very free flowing (which makes me wonder if I used Openness). I guess he realized it, too, because at one point he said, “I’ve been talking this whole time. Tell me a little bit about you.” I’m perfectly fine being a listener and don’t really like talking about myself, so I gave like a 3 sentence summary, which seemed enough to satisfy him because the conversation continued just fine with him talking the lead again. At some point, one of the men sitting across from me said “you’re very attractive”. This wasn’t an entirely unexpected/outrageous comment, so I don’t know if it was a hit or not. The rest of the lunch went well, some of us stayed after it was officially over to chat for a little bit longer before we headed our separate ways. Unlike Friday, leaving from this lunch, I felt invigorated and…euphoric? I had such a happy feeling after being among this group of guys—everyone seemed really friendly as we all talked. I had I also thought my outfit was on point, so I was also really feeling myself 🙂 I really wish I remembered my mix because I want to try it again to see if there was simply good energy in the room or it was the mones or both. **Conclusion** This mix…whatever it exactly was, did no wrong by me, and may have given me a hit or two. Will try again if I’m in a similar setting. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 3:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-gay-transgender-guy-and-his-pheromones/65455/26 "2016-02-02T03:57:41Z")
Testing each product separately is a must. For instance, in my case, I have a hard time mixing IS with anything. I’m one of the few having issues like this, but it seems to screw up the effects of many of my mixes. 'Tis said, forget not that acting shy, introvert or borderline antisocial (not looking at people, not striking convos) may render useless whichever mix you might want to try. Have you tried social mones to have you open up and develop the social skills before going all on flirting? You’d get definite payback later by working this IMO. ---
**Author:** ![zedster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zedster/32/1715_2.png) [@zedster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zedster)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 4:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-gay-transgender-guy-and-his-pheromones/65455/27 "2016-02-02T04:18:11Z")
**Situation** Travel for a work conference. Since I was away from my regular setting, I decided to try 3 drops of A314 one more time. Some context: I was ambivalent about attending the conference until the day before or so. Then I _really_ didn’t want to go anymore; I started stressing out about all the work I’d have to do there. This was before I put on mones. You’ll see how they affected my feelings… **Pheromones** A314: 3 drops to neck and wrists **Observations** Like I said [before](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-gay-transgender-guy-and-his-pheromones/65455/25), A314 affects the P/J aspect of the Myers-Briggs personality framework. I’m generally a “P” (perceiving type), which means I love flexibility, open-endedness, going with the flow, and on the extreme end, it means I often leave things unfinished. A314 pushes me more towards “J” (judging type), which accentuates my desire for rules, order, completion, and control to set things the way they “ought” to be. First time I OD’d on A314, a coworker’s inappropriate remark left me upset the entire work day because her comments went unchecked and there was nothing I could do about it. So you can imagine how I felt about going to the conference on the day I traveled wearing 3 drops of A314! I was already resentful that I had to go, but the mones made me sad/frustrated. I was in such a bad mood, like a dark cloud hung over me the entire day. I thought I was just being bratty; I didn’t realize it was the mones until I was in the Uber to the airport and the driver turned on the radio to play some religious/fundamentalist music. I was sharing a ride with someone else and felt awkward asking him to turn it off, so I put on my headphones and listened to my own music. But I didn’t get upset–You know why? I was comforted by the fact that I could write a negative review about his unprofessionalism–in other words, I still had power to correct this “misstep”, so the “J” in me was satisfied. When I noticed myself thinking this, I was surprised and realized it was definitely A314! Nothing else remarkable happened that day, just feeling depressed that I had to be at this conference and whining internally that I wanted to go home. Then I took a shower, went to bed, and woke up the next day just fine. **Conclusion** Yep, 3 drops is too much A314 for me! 2 is the sweet spot. With 2, I can focus, get stuff done, but not get hung up on what I think the way things _ought_ to be, or my power to control such things. I just feel a need to complete tasks because “why leave them till later when you can do them now?” That’s exactly the kind of mental focus I need at work and on days at home when I want to be productive, so I’m glad I figured out the right dosage. ---
**Author:** ![zedster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zedster/32/1715_2.png) [@zedster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zedster)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 4:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-gay-transgender-guy-and-his-pheromones/65455/28 "2016-02-02T16:10:44Z")
> [@Conjurator](#): > > Testing each product separately is a must. For instance, in my case, I have a hard time mixing IS with anything. I’m one of the few having issues like this, but it seems to screw up the effects of many of my mixes. > > 'Tis said, forget not that acting shy, introvert or borderline antisocial (not looking at people, not striking convos) may render useless whichever mix you might want to try. Have you tried social mones to have you open up and develop the social skills before going all on flirting? You’d get definite payback later by working this IMO. If I’m in a social setting, I’ll talk and can get chatty. If I’m not in such a setting (I.e., walking down the street), I don’t invite random engagement and mind my own business. I might some of the social mones if I feel adventurous and want to strike up convos with people in the street. ---
**Author:** ![zedster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zedster/32/1715_2.png) [@zedster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zedster)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2016, 3:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-gay-transgender-guy-and-his-pheromones/65455/29 "2016-02-04T03:44:47Z")
I was looking for my text file where I write my Phero posts before putting them here and guess what I found? My old test journal from 2007! (I called it a ‘phero log’ back then). I see some of the same things I’ve (re)discovered about mones: 3 drops of A314 turns me into a punk and makes me grumpy when I can’t get my way, IS gets people chatty and comfortable around me (the batch I used then seems more potent than what I recently bought). I got to play around with MX177 before it was discontinued, but based on what I wrote, couldn’t get a real feel for it. I also experimented a bit with “next day” effects by not washing the application spots or reapplying and seeing the results. I only logged consistently for a month an a half before I stopped (1/11/08), not sure why, but it was fun to find it again. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2016, 3:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-gay-transgender-guy-and-his-pheromones/65455/30 "2016-02-04T03:48:20Z")
A blast from the past, hehe. So you feel the IS formulation has changed? By potency, you mean similar effects but more acute in intensity? ---
**Author:** ![zedster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zedster/32/1715_2.png) [@zedster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zedster)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2016, 4:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-gay-transgender-guy-and-his-pheromones/65455/31 "2016-02-04T04:36:12Z")
> [@Conjurator](#): > > A blast from the past, hehe. So you feel the IS formulation has changed? By potency, you mean similar effects but more acute in intensity? The formulation may have changed in the 8 years since I first tried it. But yes, definitely more acute/intense effects. In my old phero log I noted some very long conversations and chattiness from people, even though I was using between 2?3 sprays. I try that same amount and can’t say I notice any change in people’s behavior around me, even at 4 or 5 sprays. However, I was using just IS by itself, whereas nowadays I’m usually combining it with at least one other mone. I’ll try using IS again by itself at those same 2?3 sprays and see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![zedster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zedster/32/1715_2.png) [@zedster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zedster)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2016, 4:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-gay-transgender-guy-and-his-pheromones/65455/32 "2016-02-04T04:36:54Z")
**Situation** Just another day at work. I’d been working from home for the last two days. I did have a lunch even I went to where I got to hear someone speak about her work preventing LGBTQ youth suicide. I decided to take HankBuddy’s advice about A314 and IH as a combo to get me into the right circles quicker and test it out. **Pheromones** A314: 2 drops, one to neck/face, one to wrists [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/): 1 spray to wrists (to minimize self-effects) IS: One spray to face **Observations** I was semi-productive in the office, what’s typical for a non-phero day. I wasn’t particularly outgoing at the lunch event, although I was listening to a particularly interesting conversation behind me. I was trying to find the best moment to join in but missed my chance because the speaker began. I was sitting directly in front of her in the first row?not sure if that was from A314 or not. I usually don’t get right up in the front, but there were barely any seats remaining when I arrived. Yet I didn’t bother to look for other ones farther back–there was a full front row of unoccupied seats and it didn’t cross my mind to hunt for more obscure ones. During her talk, she kept looking at me, but as I said, I was directly in front of her, so it was kind of unavoidable. During the Q&A I asked a question related to capacity and outreach, and mentioned the work that my office did in that regard. She seemed really excited about my question and said she wanted to talk with me afterwards. One woman rushed up to me right after the talk was over to introduce herself. She said she rode up in the elevator with me (I didn’t really notice/remember), and was intrigued by my question during Q&A because it related to her work. We talked for a bit about our areas of expertise. Another woman came up to me with a similar interest in my work, because it’s also related to her own work, plus she knows the person our office recently hired (I wrote about them earlier). I mingled a little bit, gave away a few of my cards, and did talk with the speaker briefly about our work, gave her my card, and my promised to get her in contact with my colleague who did exactly what she was looking for. **Conclusion** When I first started writing this, my observations literally began with “Nothing,” because the effects were subtle. I’m still not entirely sure whether or not what I experienced were hits because they didn’t feel particularly out of the ordinary. But HankBuddy’s hint about this combo working for work events makes me think it was. I’ll definitely try this again in another similar networking-like venue. ---
**Author:** ![zedster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zedster/32/1715_2.png) [@zedster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zedster)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 9:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-gay-transgender-guy-and-his-pheromones/65455/33 "2016-03-06T21:57:37Z")
Nothing new to report. I’ve been playing around with [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) (2 sprays) and Instant Honesty (2 sprays) on separate occasions (each with 2 sprays of IS) and haven’t seen much in the way of hits. I’ll try upping the dosage and see if I notice anything. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 1:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-gay-transgender-guy-and-his-pheromones/65455/34 "2016-03-07T01:24:57Z")
Good to see you around buddy. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-gay-transgender-guy-and-his-pheromones/65455/35 "2016-03-07T02:24:24Z")
Good to see you’re back, it’s been a while. Keep the reports coming. ---
**Author:** ![HankBuddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f04885/32.png) [@HankBuddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HankBuddy)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2016, 2:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-gay-transgender-guy-and-his-pheromones/65455/36 "2016-03-08T02:21:48Z")
I reread your post (#32). I would say those were hits. They were hits, especially if they regarded you as having considerable expertise or connections. Think about using A314 and IH regularly at work. This would help you develop better relationships with key people, particularly your supervisor’s supervisor. It takes time to develop these sort of relationships. You could also consider using IG. This might be more appropriate for your age, especially if you’re in an entry level position. I find that some guys will go out of their way to buddy up with me when I wear IG. It will also give your supervisor the willingness to take you on as a protege. This doesn’t necessarily happen with A314. So that’s one aspect to consider. Any luck on the social/dating arena? ---
**Author:** ![zedster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zedster/32/1715_2.png) [@zedster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zedster)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2016, 1:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-gay-transgender-guy-and-his-pheromones/65455/37 "2016-03-19T01:05:33Z")
> [@HankBuddy](#): > > I reread your post (#32). I would say those were hits. They were hits, especially if they regarded you as having considerable expertise or connections. Think about using A314 and IH regularly at work. This would help you develop better relationships with key people, particularly your supervisor’s supervisor. It takes time to develop these sort of relationships. > > You could also consider using IG. This might be more appropriate for your age, especially if you’re in an entry level position. I find that some guys will go out of their way to buddy up with me when I wear IG. It will also give your supervisor the willingness to take you on as a protege. This doesn’t necessarily happen with A314. So that’s one aspect to consider. > > Any luck on the social/dating arena? For whatever reason, I never got the email notification of comments to this post, so apologies for the long delay. I guess the self effects were not not very strong, or I’m just expecting some big explosion to tell me “yes, you are wearing special mones today!” I don’t have IG (yet). I wasn’t sure if it would be worth getting at the moment since I have so much A314 left and thought I could achieve similar results. I do need to order some more social mones to get me out of my shell, so I might grab a to go bottle. I haven’t bothered with dating or socializing outside of work recently. I’m a total homebody and rediscovered my love for Civ IV, so that sucked up a LOT of hours the last couple of weeks. Then I committed myself to writing a paper for a conference I’m not an expert in, so now I’ve got loads of research and writing to do on top of my regular work. I’m not even all that interested in dating at the moment, so it’s all fine with me 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![HankBuddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f04885/32.png) [@HankBuddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HankBuddy)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2016, 2:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-gay-transgender-guy-and-his-pheromones/65455/38 "2016-03-19T02:08:02Z")
> [@zedster](#): > > For whatever reason, I never got the email notification of comments to this post, so apologies for the long delay. > > I guess the self effects were not not very strong, or I’m just expecting some big explosion to tell me “yes, you are wearing special mones today!” > > I don’t have IG (yet). I wasn’t sure if it would be worth getting at the moment since I have so much A314 left and thought I could achieve similar results. I do need to order some more social mones to get me out of my shell, so I might grab a to go bottle. > > I haven’t bothered with dating or socializing outside of work recently. I’m a total homebody and rediscovered my love for Civ IV, so that sucked up a LOT of hours the last couple of weeks. Then I committed myself to writing a paper for a conference I’m not an expert in, so now I’ve got loads of research and writing to do on top of my regular work. I’m not even all that interested in dating at the moment, so it’s all fine with me 🙂 Not a problem. Glad to see you’re keeping busy. I guess that’ll keep you out of trouble, but it sure can be fun! IG has a different vibe than A314. With IG, guys want to make me their buddy. Whether or not I feel like being their buddy, that’s a different story. But, at least people feel I’m approachable. I also feel a sense of grounded confidence and optimism. With A314, I can sense people treating me with more respect. I also feel confident, but in an executive type of way, if that makes sense. Since you live in DC, another way to look at it is A314 projects a senator persona, while IG projects a congressman persona. A314 also has androstenone in it, which gives it a sensual quality. IG is more of the provider quality. So you want to pick the right [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) for the situation. With more tools in your toolbox, the more options you have to adjust to the nuance of any social activity. And yes, often the hits are subtle. Even I miss them! Only in retrospect do I consider them as hits. Just remember that people will behave only to the extent they feel it is in their best interest. This is independent of the mones you wear. You’re essentially looking for those opportunities where mones give the person the green light to give you those blatant hits. ---
**Author:** ![zedster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zedster/32/1715_2.png) [@zedster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zedster)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 12:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-gay-transgender-guy-and-his-pheromones/65455/39 "2016-03-21T00:52:07Z")
> [@HankBuddy](#): > > Not a problem. Glad to see you’re keeping busy. I guess that’ll keep you out of trouble, but it sure can be fun! > > IG has a different vibe than A314. With IG, guys want to make me their buddy. Whether or not I feel like being their buddy, that’s a different story. But, at least people feel I’m approachable. I also feel a sense of grounded confidence and optimism. > > With A314, I can sense people treating me with more respect. I also feel confident, but in an executive type of way, if that makes sense. Since you live in DC, another way to look at it is A314 projects a senator persona, while IG projects a congressman persona. A314 also has androstenone in it, which gives it a sensual quality. IG is more of the provider quality. > > So you want to pick the right pheromone for the situation. With more tools in your toolbox, the more options you have to adjust to the nuance of any social activity. > > And yes, often the hits are subtle. Even I miss them! Only in retrospect do I consider them as hits. Just remember that people will behave only to the extent they feel it is in their best interest. This is independent of the mones you wear. You’re essentially looking for those opportunities where mones give the person the green light to give you those blatant hits. Another reason why I was hesitant to try IG was that I look really, REALLY young, that I thought the vibe I gave off with IG might be really confusing (although I’ve always been unusually mature for my age). I know that IG is marketed as good for young guys?I just thought my baby face still wouldn’t be able to overcome it 😃 But everything you’ve said makes sense. I just requested admittance into the exclusive Reporters’ Club, so I can get discount pricing. Hopefully I’ll be accepted and I’ll grab a bottle of IG and some other social mones. ---
**Author:** ![zedster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zedster/32/1715_2.png) [@zedster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zedster)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 12:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-gay-transgender-guy-and-his-pheromones/65455/40 "2016-03-21T00:54:45Z")
**Situation** A regular day at work. I experimented with IS, trying to see how much I needed to spray to see/feel very obvious effects. I usually do 1–3 sprays in combo with A314, or sometimes alone, and I definitely feel the A314. IS? Not so much. **Pheromones** IS: 4 sprays to neck and chest **Observations** I think I OD’d and got a reverse effect! I was easily annoyed by things all day, starting with a kittle kid on the bus named “Bubba” (at least that’s what his mom called him. He kept using me instead of the setback to prop himself up. He was probably 7 or 8, and his older brother sat down next to him playing games on their phone together. Kids I don’t care about one way or another, but I was pretty irritated by the fact that the younger one kept leaning on me, even after I tried shifting around to get him off me. I was relieved once I got off on my stop. At work, there were other small things that bugged me, but that was either Wednesday or Thursday and I foolishly forgot to write down my impressions, so they’re lost to the sands of time. Only “Bubba” on the bus stuck in my memory 😃 **Conclusion** I’ve tried ODing on IS before, but didn’t get this reaction. I’ll try 4 or more sprays a few more times to confirm the exact effects on me. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-gay-transgender-guy-and-his-pheromones/65455.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-gay-transgender-guy-and-his-pheromones/65455.md?page=3)