# A good blend between three pheromones **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 5, 2015, 5:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-good-blend-between-three-pheromones/64308 "2015-05-05T05:17:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![swifter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@swifter](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/swifter)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2015, 5:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-good-blend-between-three-pheromones/64308/1 "2015-05-05T05:17:32Z")
So guys, I am looking for a nice blend between 3 [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) androstadienone, androstenol and androstenone. I want to get as much of them as I can for a good price. I think Instant jerk has something like 15 mcg per spray of androstenone, which is a very good offer if true. I have also read in the forum, that Instant honesty has 15 mcg of androstenol. So, unless I can get both of these pheromones from another product, I am buying IH and IJ. I don’t know if Ammo contains any androstenol. So the only problem left is the androstadienone. I want product, that is cheap and contains good amount of androstadienone. I cannot buy any of the Erox products, because I live in Europe. Is there any alternative at all? How about alpha dream (I cannot order single molecule, don’t know why) Which of there products contains androstadienone? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2015, 8:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-good-blend-between-three-pheromones/64308/2 "2015-05-05T08:57:24Z")
Ammo is an equal mix of Androstenone, Alpha Androstenol and Androsterone - dosed for approx 2.5mcg of each per spray in standard form. IJ has approx 12.5mcg per spray of None, with the rest being undisclosed steering. IH is an approx 70/30 mix of beta and alpha-nol, plus an again undisclosed steering molecule to approx 15mcg per spray. The steering/secondary molecules are an important factor with IJ and IH(and indeed the entire consumer line except Ammo) - They change the properties/responses of the primary molecules considerably - so you cannot simply substitute any of them for the primary molecule directly. These are however all sold as experimones or you can get alternatives elsewhere. Some are considerably better sources than others though. A1 is not sold by AD at all - The reasons why it was discontinued have been done to death on many other threads already. Nor is it a mone that contributes much to discussion here and postings about it will not count towards your eventual RU status. However, if you want info on A1, do read K-Train’s “A1 guide” in this very forum, which contains about the best info on mixing, dosing and using A1 anywhere. Also see the “A1 Mix Repository” and any number of “IFM Replacement/Alternative” threads for brilliant advice on using A1 in conjunction with other products/mones. It will also give you some suggestions about where to get it from. However, before starting with A1, do consider it carefully - this is not exactly a beginners [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) and it does have potential negative self-effects for some men that can make it very difficult to use effectively. Its also a fucker for sudden breakdown to None - which can through you mix right-off and other unpleasant byproducts so is often better used singly and on completely separate app points to the rest of your mix. So you can go and wash/reapply if it turns to god-awful stink. Instead of A1, it might be worth considering some other combinations like IH/P74 that have some very similar properties and very few if any problems with negative self effects. ---
**Author:** ![swifter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@swifter](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/swifter)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 8:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-good-blend-between-three-pheromones/64308/3 "2015-05-07T20:46:32Z")
Thank you very much for your answer! It seems like IJ and IH have more mones than [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), and have putatives as well and they are not too expansive. Exactly what I am looking for. May get Ammo as well, but I don’t see any reason for that, other than it’s cheap. ---
**Author:** ![Marihino](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marihino/32/1286_2.png) [@Marihino](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marihino)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 10:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-good-blend-between-three-pheromones/64308/4 "2015-05-07T22:59:44Z")
Just keep in mind that less is often more. IJ is **not** a more effective product than Ammo just because it has much more androstenone per spray. It’s a different product, certainly more risky and difficult to work with as a beginner, and definitely less versatile. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 2:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-good-blend-between-three-pheromones/64308/5 "2015-05-08T02:27:15Z")
Yup - Its very important to remember that strength is not always good with pheros. It s all about finding the doses that work best with your own body chemistry, personality and range of situations. Using too much will almost certainly go right-against you. ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 4:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-good-blend-between-three-pheromones/64308/6 "2015-05-08T04:22:35Z")
I agree with Mobocaster. Stay away from products with A1. I’ve tried products with it and it makes me completely lethargic - not a good feeling. Many men get depressed from it too - horrible depression. The benefits don’t outweigh the costs. Once you become a phermone expert you can source A1 and experiment with it. But stick with the non A1 products for now. You don’t need A1 to get great success with pheromones. A1 can be pretty horrible for me. The next day after using it I don’t want to get out of bed. My entire day get’s wasted because I don’t have the energy to get into the shower to was the A1 off. ---
**Author:** ![swifter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@swifter](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/swifter)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 6:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-good-blend-between-three-pheromones/64308/7 "2015-05-08T18:27:18Z")
OK, an other question. One of the effects I would like is to get respect form other men. I want to “intimidate” them and make them feel insecure a bit, including people that I don’t personally know. Is IJ good for that? Would it be better to add a314 to it ot Ammo? And most importantly, why? ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 7:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-good-blend-between-three-pheromones/64308/8 "2015-05-08T19:07:48Z")
I’ve used IJ and A314 oil together and it did in fact intimidate some other men. Can’t say if it intimidated men in general but it did intimidate some men. ---
**Author:** ![ocantu1987](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f04885/32.png) [@ocantu1987](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ocantu1987)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2015, 2:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-good-blend-between-three-pheromones/64308/9 "2015-05-09T02:02:16Z")
> [@swifter](#): > > OK, an other question. One of the effects I would like is to get respect form other men. I want to “intimidate” them and make them feel insecure a bit, including people that I don’t personally know. Is IJ good for that? Would it be better to add a314 to it ot Ammo? And most importantly, why? Ij can definitely do that, speaking from experience. I was getting on the treadmill and a guy next to me quickly wanted to get off lol he was bigger and more tatted up than me, i noticed he was intimidated because he almost tripped trying to quickly get off of the treadmill when I arrived 🙄 I had 1 spray Ij on my wrist.