# A hellacious journal! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 17, 2007, 9:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-hellacious-journal/6697 "2007-11-17T09:05:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![hellacious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dbc845/32.png) [@hellacious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hellacious)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2007, 9:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-hellacious-journal/6697/1 "2007-11-17T09:05:18Z")
I received my packaged last week and started testing them immediately. When i saw them it was as if i saw video games for the first time ever. The package included Ammo, IS, Instant female magic, and instant honesty. Day 1: I know it was my first time, but i was so excited that i had to try on alot of mixes. I had on 2x Ammo 1x on each wrist. 2x instant honesty in the hair Went to the mall and walked around the shops for awhile. It was strange because no one greeted me from any of the stores the entire time. The only time i got help was when i asked for a size at Macy’s. It wasn’t as if there was someone at the door and ignored me, i would pass by the workers and would not get attention. It was no big so I just went home. Day 2: 2x ammo 1x front of neck 1x wrists 1x turn up the heat on wrists 1x honesty in back of neck went to a different mall to shop once again with a friend. Didn’t seem so bad, but when i was in abercrombie, a girl walked passed me smiled from a distance, but had her head down when passing by. I ignored it and went into another store. The strangest thing was when i was at a shoe store and the girl only talked to me without looking at me. she was folding and greeting me without any facial/eye contact. even when i asked her for a shoe size, she was asking me how it fits without actually looking at me. strange! i figured that i OD’ed on both of the days so i tried to go without many none products or [pheromones](https://a314.com/) in general. day 3: used 2x ammo on neck and went to a bookstore. just read for awhile, but nothing out of the ordinary happened. stayed there for about 45 minutes at one of the seats inside borders. just read for awhile and strolled around the store for a bit. i’m going to continue testing, but do you guys recommend anything? i’m viet, my targets are asians in the age range of 18-22. can IS, honesty, or instant female magic cause OD? or is it just the -none products that can cause OD? i see alot of ppl use 4x strength times 2+ sprays of honesty and such. and quite a few of IS. Not sure about instant female magic. i think i should go down to 1x ammo and start from there. just for reassurance. ammo has -none correct? ---
**Author:** ![HABIB001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/habib001/32/2159_2.png) [@HABIB001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HABIB001)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2007, 10:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-hellacious-journal/6697/2 "2007-11-17T10:19:30Z")
Maybe you should lay of the Ammo and TUTH. At your age you can easily overdose on andrestenone cos your body is already producing lots of it. Hence why those girls wouldnt make eye contact. Secondly be relaxed and dont try to spot things which are not there, act like you normally would. i.e keep an open mind. Concentrate on [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and Instant female magic when around younger women. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2007, 10:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-hellacious-journal/6697/3 "2007-11-17T10:35:13Z")
Ah, habib, but hellacious mentions that he’s vietnamese. Even though he’s 18 and producing more Androstenone than people twice his age, I tend to think that people of asian ethnicity produce less androstenone as a whole. In fact, I think asians respond in completely different ways to pheromones. I dont know if it is cultural or genetic, but I do notice a difference. In your case, hellacious, I’d suggest you mess around with Shine first. Play with it for a week. work out your dosages. I’m thinking like… 2, 3, 4, 5 sprays maybe. Depends. Mess with it! Then graduate to IH. Then Ammo. Then work on IFM. I’mnot just caling some random order, either. There’s a method to my madness! Master the social mones FIRST. You’ll get a kickin’ feel for how the social ones work, and what you can do with them. The skills you learn in the first few weeks – causing some social voodoo to happen and being a sly tiger and pouncing on interesting new possibilities – will get you into this real good groove with yourself. You’ll be buzzy with social energy, playing with your big PRESENCE and AURA, and you can leverage that buzz, that aura, when you layer yourself with something SEXXXXY like Ammo… You can use the confident social swagger you’ve spent a week or two building up with Shine and Honesty, throw a coat of Ammo over it, and turn it into a confident SEXXXXY social swagger. Then you’ll be unstoppable. So fiddle with dosages and pounce on those opportunities that pheromones open up for you. AND POST HERE WHEN YOURE DONE!! TEEHEE!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2007, 1:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-hellacious-journal/6697/4 "2007-11-17T13:35:45Z")
Hey hellacious, I think you would have been far better off getting the normal [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) version, not the heavy one. Your 2x version has twice the amount of -none in it - which can lead easily to overdose reactions. Sadly, it’s a mistake A LOT of the newbies make! Especially with products that contain Androstenone less is often better… bb ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2007, 5:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-hellacious-journal/6697/5 "2007-11-17T17:21:08Z")
Bubblebob I believe that he used the normal version of ammo, but 2 sprays: I had on 2x [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) 1x on each wrist. sry too lazy too quote since i just wake up ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2007, 6:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-hellacious-journal/6697/6 "2007-11-17T18:20:36Z")
Ooops, you’re right! Sorry for the misunderstanding, hellacious!