# A hit and then a flop... Can you OD on this mix? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 24, 2008, 4:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-hit-and-then-a-flop-can-you-od-on-this-mix/21902 "2008-10-24T04:00:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bonvoyage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9adbd/32.png) [@bonvoyage](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bonvoyage)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 4:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-hit-and-then-a-flop-can-you-od-on-this-mix/21902/1 "2008-10-24T04:00:58Z")
Well… I started my day w/ 6 sprays of [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) 10mcg 5 sprays of P79 10mcg 1 drop of A314 3 sprays of IS 2x 4 sprays of IO Went to the class… and I sit next to the cute asian girl in my class that never said anything… She’s cute… but she looks arrogant… Surprise2x… she started talking to me on a break… playing w/ her hair… and followed me outside of the class… When it’s time to go… she was asking me if I park close to her… I said yes… I should say no… and ask her… if she could drop me elsewhere… Anyway… got her email… she still reluctant giving the phone # cos I saw a promise ring on her left hand… Anyway… I got home… decided to hit the gym… I just got a new shipment… and Jasmin gave me IG to go bottle… It said to make your presence known… get the spray… So I sprayed 3 sprays of IG and went to the gym… OMG… things are so cold… I was like a shadow there… nobody recognize me… Can you OD on this mix? It was so sweet before… how can you OD w/ only 3 sprays of IG?😕 Anyway… the first mix… going to be on my book… a definite hit there… ---
**Author:** ![Sven](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sven/32/750_2.png) [@Sven](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sven)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 9:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-hit-and-then-a-flop-can-you-od-on-this-mix/21902/2 "2008-10-24T09:15:32Z")
Ok so, experts correct me if im wrong because ive never used any yet, but ive been reading and reading literally every post for the past 50 pages. it sounds like (from again what everyone responds with) that you can OD pratically anytime because everyones natural pheramone signature is differate…ie age race, wieght, fitness,… i would not doubt that what yu had going in class was a goos it and that once you added the 3 of instant gent. the “3” part was to much..maybe try 1 or 2 if ever given the same scenario?.. plus everyone ive seen on here says sweating and hot places can decrease the effect…just a thought from what ive been reading…take it for whatcha will ---
**Author:** ![magicj76](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/magicj76/32/1858_2.png) [@magicj76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magicj76)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 12:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-hit-and-then-a-flop-can-you-od-on-this-mix/21902/3 "2008-10-24T12:13:46Z")
Basic maths would tell me that 1 hit and 1 flop means I have to check again. Hit = +1, flop=-1. +1-1=0 so ? investigate more… ---
**Author:** ![bonvoyage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9adbd/32.png) [@bonvoyage](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bonvoyage)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 11:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-hit-and-then-a-flop-can-you-od-on-this-mix/21902/4 "2008-10-26T23:37:49Z")
> [@magicj76](#): > > Basic maths would tell me that 1 hit and 1 flop means I have to check again. Hit = +1, flop=-1. +1-1=0 > so ? investigate more… I checked it again today… the same ingredients without gents… It works like magic…, but you have to make the 1st move… It’s weird… But, I saw one of my acquaintances today… she’s a typical pretty woman kind… So… I haven’t seen her for awhile… and when I said “hi” to her previously (for a couple a time in the past), I only got one word from her… and nothing else… w/ a blank stare… However, today is so different… I said hi to her and I told her… “haven’t seen you for awhile, how r ya?” She looked up to me with glittering eyes… I mean… really… it was like somebody been approached by a supermodel… She started talking and smiling back… It was definitely a hit… too bad, I couldn’t stay for long… but the mix… really awesome… I’m still afraid adding gents to it…, cos it might stop working all together… I’ll update you later after I tweaked the dose later… 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![perronec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/perronec/32/1280_2.png) [@perronec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/perronec)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 6:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-hit-and-then-a-flop-can-you-od-on-this-mix/21902/5 "2008-10-27T06:00:55Z")
> [@bonvoyage](#): > > Well… I started my day w/ > 6 sprays of P83 10mcg > 5 sprays of P79 10mcg > 1 drop of A314 > 3 sprays of IS 2x > 4 sprays of IO > > Went to the class… and I sit next to the cute asian girl in my class that never said anything… > She’s cute… but she looks arrogant… > Surprise2x… she started talking to me on a break… playing w/ her hair… and followed me outside of the class… > When it’s time to go… she was asking me if I park close to her… I said yes… I should say no… and ask her… if she could drop me elsewhere… > Anyway… got her email… she still reluctant giving the phone # cos I saw a promise ring on her left hand… > > Anyway… I got home… decided to hit the gym… > I just got a new shipment… and Jasmin gave me IG to go bottle… > It said to make your presence known… get the spray… > So I sprayed 3 sprays of IG and went to the gym… > > OMG… things are so cold… I was like a shadow there… nobody recognize me… > Can you OD on this mix? > It was so sweet before… how can you OD w/ only 3 sprays of IG?😕 > > Anyway… the first mix… going to be on my book… a definite hit there… Ok, allow me to get my 2 cents in here. first I’ll say the same thing i say everyday. It seems like you are new here, so welcome to the forum. my huge big gigantic reccomendation to you is to try all of those out mixes and putatives individually first, start at a low dose, get an idea of the types of hits you get from each, then start to combine. it may seem like slow going at first, but your ability to mix effectively will increase 1000000x. ie)you will have more better hits consistently. To answer your question. No you probably can not OD on this mix at these doses. First, its important to point out that an OD is not synonymous with “no hits”. it means you overloaded peoples systems and they are consciously avoiding you or having headaches. The only concern i have is the Instant shine 2x which you have 3 sprays of. thats a lot. and IS has been known to give people headaches at high doses(typically higher than that though i think) other than that, this mix while containing probably close to 150mcgs of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) will probably not cause an OD. it may cause some confusion. but i think it is safe-ish. Your wording confused me here, you said the asian girl never ‘said anything’. does that mean during the class? until that class? what? she initiated the conversation during the break? If you’ve never spoken to her before, that was probably a hit. the playing with the hair was good too. Ignore the ring. watch her body language. It sounds like you had her interested. mixing wise, I would turn that mix down in a few areas. you don’t need that much p83 or p79. you can see results at 10mcg of each with those molecules. if you insist on using all of those together, try this. 20mcg P83 10mcg p79 1 drop A314 1 spray IS 2x 2 sprays Instant openness. However, seriously, you could walk in with 1 spray of IS 2x and see some positive results. those bottom 3 can all be used by themselves very well(for social things the bottom two especially) we all did the phero baptism when we started out, so go have your fun. let us know your results, and we will all be happy to help you out.🙂🙂 ---
**Author:** ![perronec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/perronec/32/1280_2.png) [@perronec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/perronec)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 6:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-hit-and-then-a-flop-can-you-od-on-this-mix/21902/6 "2008-10-27T06:02:09Z")
A note about the instant gentleman at the gym. people may have been ‘not wanting to bother you’ because you seem important instead of avoiding you. either way, its the gym, so thats not so bad. ---
**Author:** ![bonvoyage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9adbd/32.png) [@bonvoyage](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bonvoyage)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 2:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-hit-and-then-a-flop-can-you-od-on-this-mix/21902/7 "2008-10-27T14:42:26Z")
> [@perronec](#): > > Ok, allow me to get my 2 cents in here. > > first I’ll say the same thing i say everyday. It seems like you are new here, so welcome to the forum. my huge big gigantic reccomendation to you is to try all of those out mixes and putatives individually first, start at a low dose, get an idea of the types of hits you get from each, then start to combine. it may seem like slow going at first, but your ability to mix effectively will increase 1000000x. > ie)you will have more better hits consistently. > > To answer your question. No you probably can not OD on this mix at these doses. First, its important to point out that an OD is not synonymous with “no hits”. it means you overloaded peoples systems and they are consciously avoiding you or having headaches. The only concern i have is the Instant shine 2x which you have 3 sprays of. thats a lot. and IS has been known to give people headaches at high doses(typically higher than that though i think) other than that, this mix while containing probably close to 150mcgs of pheromones will probably not cause an OD. it may cause some confusion. but i think it is safe-ish. > > Your wording confused me here, you said the asian girl never ‘said anything’. does that mean during the class? until that class? what? > > she initiated the conversation during the break? If you’ve never spoken to her before, that was probably a hit. the playing with the hair was good too. Ignore the ring. watch her body language. It sounds like you had her interested. > > mixing wise, I would turn that mix down in a few areas. you don’t need that much p83 or p79. you can see results at 10mcg of each with those molecules. > > if you insist on using all of those together, try this. > > 20mcg P83 > 10mcg p79 > 1 drop A314 > 1 spray IS 2x > 2 sprays Instant openness. > > However, seriously, you could walk in with 1 spray of IS 2x and see some positive results. those bottom 3 can all be used by themselves very well(for social things the bottom two especially) > > we all did the phero baptism when we started out, so go have your fun. let us know your results, and we will all be happy to help you out.🙂🙂 Not so new… I’ve been using phero for a year, I just didn’t bother to post… I’m just new w/ putative… I tried lower dose of putative, it didn’t seem to work. Yep, previously she didn’t even know that I’m exist… so it’s a definite hit. A314 results always overwhelming with me… I used to wear it with 4-5 sprays of IS to counter A314 “LEAVE ME ALONE” signature…, so 3 sprays of IS x2 works effectively for me. But I’m new w/ IG and IH… I didn’t get much from IH. I was more succesful w/ IO Would you mix IO and IH to get a better result? I know IO will create that happy feeling that you’re closed to that person, while IH will create a happy feeling (like being w/ a fat person)… So? what should I do? ---
**Author:** ![bonvoyage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9adbd/32.png) [@bonvoyage](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bonvoyage)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 2:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-hit-and-then-a-flop-can-you-od-on-this-mix/21902/8 "2008-10-27T14:43:42Z")
> [@perronec](#): > > A note about the instant gentleman at the gym. people may have been ‘not wanting to bother you’ because you seem important instead of avoiding you. either way, its the gym, so thats not so bad. That make sense… hehehe… nobody was asking me for my weights or my bench… It could be useful when the gym is full of people, you can pretty much get what you want…😛