# A little hesitant...but... **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 19, 2009, 11:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-little-hesitant-but/30016 "2009-06-19T23:18:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 2:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-little-hesitant-but/30016/21 "2009-06-21T02:24:01Z")
> [@happykitsune](#): > > 22 sprays of IShine?! Talk about perfume overkill! 😮 I did that once with P83 because the dosage was so low (2.5 mcg) > > Luckily none of the pheros I bought were too low. > > I looked at your example and my math followed pretty close to that except I was doing it for a 1/2 oz bottle which I found to have 15 mL inside. That’s about half of the sprays that will be in the 30 mL which would be 200/2. So 100 sprays per 15mL. > > Problem is the bottle has one of those dabbing things and not a spray head. Curses! 😠 > > I already had something in one of my bottles and dabbed it on to my wrist to see how it looked in comparison to a spray. I think perhaps 1-2 dabs would be sufficient to a spray, but of course it’s not at all accurate. I’m either going to try to work with this or see if I can find a spray bottle (preferably one that isn’t only 5mL) > > I did the math tho and it looks like I’ll need 8 sprays to get the right amount of effects from each component. 8 sprays sounds like a lot so I may only use 4 sprays and spray an intensifier with it. > > Thoughts? Testing is all about repeatability. So anything is alright as long as you can repeat it without adding too much error into it. The dabbing thing might be a problem since it is so hard to control. I actually like the 5 ml bottles because they are so easy to slip in my pocket. And I keep a kit of all the current molecules I’m testing. I just pull up my spreadsheet, locate the mix I want and spray into the same bottle. I’ve had one bottle going for about 3 months… I don’t know how many times I’ve refilled it. Of course you could get a 30 mL spray bottle and mix up enough to fill that and then just pour that into a 5 ml spritzer… but I like to change things up too much and that is a lot of product to dedicate to one test mix… Androtics has both empty 5 and 30 ml spray bottles for sale under mixing supplies. Diane ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 2:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-little-hesitant-but/30016/22 "2009-06-21T02:28:27Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > Testing is all about repeatability. So anything is alright as long as you can repeat it without adding too much error into it. The dabbing thing might be a problem since it is so hard to control. > > I actually like the 5 ml bottles because they are so easy to slip in my pocket. And I keep a kit of all the current molecules I’m testing. I just pull up my spreadsheet, locate the mix I want and spray into the same bottle. I’ve had one bottle going for about 3 months… I don’t know how many times I’ve refilled it. > > Of course you could get a 30 mL spray bottle and mix up enough to fill that and then just pour that into a 5 ml spritzer… but I like to change things up too much and that is a lot of product to dedicate to one test mix… > > Androtics has both empty 5 and 30 ml spray bottles for sale under mixing supplies. > > Diane Thats true. I do like the to-gos convenient size. I’ll probably just put everything in my 15mL and then transfer from there ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 2:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-little-hesitant-but/30016/23 "2009-06-21T02:32:31Z")
Oh, and btw. Do you buy your EST from Love Scent, Diane? ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 7:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-little-hesitant-but/30016/24 "2009-06-23T07:13:27Z")
> [@happykitsune](#): > > Oh, and btw. Do you buy your EST from Love Scent, Diane? Yes. The EST from lovescent is 1 mg/ml concentration and it comes in a 10 ml volume. That is equivalent to 150 mcg/spray if you transfer it straight to a spritzer like the 5 ml To Go’s. So, I add 20 ml of perfumers’ alcohol to this and that gives me a final concentration of 50 mcg/spray. If you wanted a 25 mcg/spray dilution, you would add 50 ml of perfumers’ alcohol to the 10 ml of EST instead of 20 ml. Since the effective dosage is around 60-75 mcg/spray, you would want to dilute it to keep from wasting product. Diane [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-little-hesitant-but/30016.md?page=1)