# A mid-life misadventure

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mid-life-misadventure/67181>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [May 20, 2017, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mid-life-misadventure/67181 "2017-05-20T20:55:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mid-life-misadventure/67181/21 "2017-05-27T15:28:16Z")

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None of us are perfect and I tend to not catch things to so no worries.

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**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2017, 4:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mid-life-misadventure/67181/22 "2017-05-28T16:45:15Z")

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Don’t worry about that, lol, I used to bash myself on the head for months forgetting to look out for pupil dilatation like every darn time! lol

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**Author:** ![rtj666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@rtj666](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rtj666)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2017, 6:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mid-life-misadventure/67181/23 "2017-05-28T18:47:17Z")

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I was noodling around on Amazon looking at pheromone stuff (I always get whacked with customs charges, so I was kinda cheating on AD by looking on Amazon. Sorry AD! Forgive me! 😃 ). Came across a scent called _Molecule 01_ from _Escentric_. Pretty expensive. So I dug deeper and came across a **Molecule 01 Iso E Super** from _Tribute8_ which is apparently identical to the more expensive stuff.

I dunno what’s in this stuff, but even I can’t stop sniffing it. It’s very sweet, sugary, flowery. I dunno. I can’t quite place it. It smells a bit ‘off’ when first sprayed, but after a few minutes it really smells nice. It’s a unisex ‘Eau de Parfum’. 100ml bottle. Not sure what the MCG/spray is though.

Lots of strangers coming to where I work this coming week (for a conference, only a couple of days) so I’ll put it to the test (alone) for a day then maybe add some A314/P131 (both unfragranced) to see what happens.

Anyone heard of this stuff? From a bit of research it’s not a pheromone (as such) but it seems to act like one.

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**Author:** ![rtj666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@rtj666](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rtj666)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mid-life-misadventure/67181/24 "2017-05-31T19:23:17Z")

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8am:  
2 drops A314 (wrist and behind ears)  
4 sp P96 (hands and neck)

3pm:  
2 sp TUTH

I definitely think I was ghosted today. Numerous times I’d be right in front of people and say something. No response. Not even a look from them. VERY weird.

Is there anything in the mix above that would cause this to happen?

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 8:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mid-life-misadventure/67181/25 "2017-05-31T20:48:39Z")

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> [@rtj666](#):
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> 8am:  
> 2 drops A314 (wrist and behind ears)  
> 4 sp P96 (hands and neck)
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> 3pm:  
> 2 sp TUTH
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> I definitely think I was ghosted today. Numerous times I’d be right in front of people and say something. No response. Not even a look from them. VERY weird.
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> Is there anything in the mix above that would cause this to happen?

Yes that sounds like ghosting. It can be real annoying.

If anything it was the TUTH probably. TUTH is a ENone based product. ENone or ‘Androstenone’ is the male [sexual Pheromone](https://a314.com/product-category/sensual-pheromones/) but also causes aggression at times. And ghosting at the point of total ignoring sound like a ENone ghosting to me.

If you wanted to wear that same mix you could probably get away with it by using much more p96 to buffer the ENone.

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**Author:** ![rtj666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@rtj666](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rtj666)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2017, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mid-life-misadventure/67181/26 "2017-06-02T17:57:34Z")

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Today was interesting.

10am:  
2 drops A314 (behind ears)  
5 drops Quorum (aftershave: jawline and neck)

Hardly saw anyone all day. Then at 5pm I saw a female coworker who, dressed casually, in jeans, sat across from me (a distance of about 4ft) with her legs wide open. Then crossed them a few times. She often wears trousers at work, but never sits like that.

Interesting. Especially since I’d assume that by 5pm the A314 would be wearing off and the aftershave gone.

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**Author:** ![rtj666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@rtj666](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rtj666)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 11:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mid-life-misadventure/67181/27 "2017-06-07T23:21:21Z")

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4PM:  
2 drops A314 (ears)  
2 sprays Ammo (neck)

6pm:  
1 spray Ammo (forearms)

Almost immediately after adding that third spray of Ammo I began getting a headache. Wiped it off (was on forearms) and felt much better in no time.

It seems that 2 sprays of 1xAmmo is my limit.

A while back I did use 4 sprays of Ammo and put that headache down to lack of sleep. Now I know it was probably the Ammo.

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 9:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mid-life-misadventure/67181/28 "2017-06-08T21:20:56Z")

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> [@rtj666](#):
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> Interesting. Especially since I’d assume that by 5pm the A314 would be wearing off and the aftershave gone.

Depending on your application point, if it was on your skin, the bacteria on your skin will break down the mones into other compounds, which in turn can alter your overall signature in a good way. I have some great late night mixes that are even better the next morning.

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**Author:** ![rtj666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@rtj666](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rtj666)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 5:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mid-life-misadventure/67181/29 "2017-06-10T17:13:40Z")

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**Sods law.** 😠

Just as I finish for a week off work some new [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) turn up. 🙄

I now have (from non-AD places) _Nude Alpha_, and a free sample of _PH Parfumes v2.0_ (which has a sticker on the bottom of it saying:‘6.’)

Drops? Sprays? Neither. These are small 10ml roll-on’s.

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**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 6:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mid-life-misadventure/67181/30 "2017-06-12T18:58:14Z")

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I would be interested in hearing your experience on the Roll-on based one. I know this is not the right board for that product and there are others, but am curious on how well it goes because I have been playing around with small 5ML roll-on bottles and to put my pheromones in them for more precision applications like behind the ears.

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**Author:** ![rtj666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@rtj666](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rtj666)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 7:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mid-life-misadventure/67181/31 "2017-06-12T19:13:59Z")

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> [@justintime469](#):
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> I would be interested in hearing your experience on the Roll-on based one. I know this is not the right board for that product and there are others, but am curious on how well it goes because I have been playing around with small 5ML roll-on bottles and to put my pheromones in them for more precision applications like behind the ears.

The downside of the roll-ons is that there’s no way to accurately judge how much you’ve put on. In volume that is. I’ve seen people (on another forum) describe it using inches. As in (for example) a four inch length down their forearm. If you were only doing your wrist you’d need to maybe do three one inch strips (horizontally/vertically you choose). It does make things difficult as how many inches should you use?

The one good thing about the roll-ons is that you don’t get any wastage. With a spray you can often lose most of a spray if the nozzle is off aim.

I tried a couple of inches of NA and didn’t feel any self-effects. Same with PH6 (as I’ll call it). No self-effects. I’ll maybe try again tomorrow by doubling the inches.

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**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2017, 2:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mid-life-misadventure/67181/32 "2017-06-13T02:04:09Z")

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I think there’s also a possible issue of molecule contamination with roll-ons. The ball part which touches your body rolls back inside and contaminates the molecules with whatever it scrapes off of your skin.

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**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 1:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mid-life-misadventure/67181/33 "2017-06-23T13:47:53Z")

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> [@Dee\_A](#):
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> I think there’s also a possible issue of molecule contamination with roll-ons. The ball part which touches your body rolls back inside and contaminates the molecules with whatever it scrapes off of your skin.

I did not even think about the contamination good point. I think I will leave the roll ons for EO and cologne only with no molecules because of this now and will rethink some things, Thank you Dee!

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mid-life-misadventure/67181/34 "2017-06-24T15:28:17Z")

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> [@rtj666](#):
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> The one good thing about the roll-ons is that you don’t get any wastage. With a spray you can often lose most of a spray if the nozzle is off aim.

I agree about the spray/wastage thing. For me, I’ve found a remedy for this but it may not be that appealing to some.  
What I do is hold the sprayer super close to app point. Like about an inch away and then I spray. I get no lack or overspray. However, I do end up with a sort of ‘puddle’ on the side of me neck to which I tilt my head back and forth to keep it from dripping down my neck under my shirt. I’ve done this for years and it’s been the best way to get consistent results, IMO.

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**Author:** ![rtj666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@rtj666](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rtj666)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 2:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mid-life-misadventure/67181/35 "2017-07-07T14:12:17Z")

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8am:

1 drop A314  
2 sprays X1ST  
2 sprays P131  
4 sprays Joop! Homme

If nothing else I got a comment for wearing Joop.

People did seem more smiley when talking to me. Not sure if that was a ‘hit’ or not.

At 4 pm on the bus home, there was an older woman (maybe 60?) who was sitting across the aisle from me who seemed slightly agitated and kept moving her legs and putting her hands between her thighs. She never looked across at me, but I did watch her out of the corner of my eye wondering if it was me causing this.

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