# A mix showing promise with M-type mtDNA haplogroups **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 28, 2007, 11:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mix-showing-promise-with-m-type-mtdna-haplogroups/3874 "2007-05-28T23:42:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 11:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mix-showing-promise-with-m-type-mtdna-haplogroups/3874/1 "2007-05-28T23:42:30Z")
I’m posting this mix at Jasmin’s request. If you find effects of interest please post and let us know what they are. A314 mutant base - 2 drops p98 - 50 mcg p79 - 25 mcg [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) - 2 to-go sprays mx178 - 2 to-go sprays p94 - 12.5 mcg ammo 1.0 - 1 to-go spray ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 2:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mix-showing-promise-with-m-type-mtdna-haplogroups/3874/2 "2007-05-29T02:32:44Z")
- M-type mtDNA haplogroups\*… Hahaha, that’s really specific! This sounds like a fun mix. I hope some other people try it and post their reactions. Care to elaborate the types of reactions you received? ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 3:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mix-showing-promise-with-m-type-mtdna-haplogroups/3874/3 "2007-05-29T03:01:32Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > - M-type mtDNA haplogroups\*… > > Hahaha, that’s really specific! Actually M is a macrohaplogroup, encompassing mitochondrial DNA haplogroups D, E, G, Q, CZ, and subclades C and Z, so it’s not _too_ specific. Also, I’m sure the effectiveness of this mix is not limited to this subpopulation. > [@Jasmin](#): > > This sounds like a fun mix. I hope some other people try it and post their reactions. Care to elaborate the types of reactions you received? Non-defensive and open reactions, including the initiation of conversations. Seems as if there is less caution involved than most mixes inspire. ---
**Author:** ![ProtoJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@ProtoJay](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ProtoJay)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 8:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mix-showing-promise-with-m-type-mtdna-haplogroups/3874/4 "2007-05-29T08:24:51Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > Actually M is a macrohaplogroup, encompassing mitochondrial DNA haplogroups D, E, G, Q, CZ, and subclades C and Z, so it’s not _too_ specific. Also, I’m sure the effectiveness of this mix is not limited to this subpopulation. > > Non-defensive and open reactions, including the initiation of conversations. Seems as if there is less caution involved than most mixes inspire. Hehe, now all we need to do is get blood, urine and dna samples from the girls we like to send off to lab analysis… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 12:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mix-showing-promise-with-m-type-mtdna-haplogroups/3874/5 "2007-05-29T12:18:45Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > Actually M is a macrohaplogroup, encompassing mitochondrial DNA haplogroups D, E, G, Q, CZ, and subclades C and Z, so it’s not _too_ specific. Also, I’m sure the effectiveness of this mix is not limited to this subpopulation. > > Non-defensive and open reactions, including the initiation of conversations. Seems as if there is less caution involved than most mixes inspire. Ah that’s interesting. Wonder if it would work with K2’s too? ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 12:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mix-showing-promise-with-m-type-mtdna-haplogroups/3874/6 "2007-05-29T12:37:12Z")
> [@ProtoJay](#): > > Hehe, now all we need to do is get blood, urine and dna samples from the girls we like to send off to lab analysis… 😛 Getting the samples is 57.521% of the fun! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 12:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mix-showing-promise-with-m-type-mtdna-haplogroups/3874/7 "2007-05-29T12:39:47Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > Getting the samples is 57.521% of the fun! > > 😉 Doing it all for scientific purposes of course! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 1:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mix-showing-promise-with-m-type-mtdna-haplogroups/3874/8 "2007-05-29T13:01:00Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > I’m posting this mix at Jasmin’s request. > > If you find effects of interest please post and let us know what they are. > > A314 mutant base - 2 drops > p98 - 50 mcg > p79 - 25 mcg > Instant Female Magic - 2 to-go sprays > mx178 - 2 to-go sprays > p94 - 1 to-go spray > ammo 1.0 - 1 to-go spray p94 togo, but what strength? ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 2:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mix-showing-promise-with-m-type-mtdna-haplogroups/3874/9 "2007-05-29T14:11:26Z")
> [@PheroQuirk](#): > > p94 togo, but what strength? 12.5 mcg. I fixed it in the first post. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 6:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mix-showing-promise-with-m-type-mtdna-haplogroups/3874/10 "2007-05-31T06:31:04Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > I’m posting this mix at Jasmin’s request. > > If you find effects of interest please post and let us know what they are. > > A314 mutant base - 2 drops > p98 - 50 mcg > p79 - 25 mcg > Instant Female Magic - 2 to-go sprays > mx178 - 2 to-go sprays > p94 - 12.5 mcg > ammo 1.0 - 1 to-go spray so… any thoughts on the individual effects of p98, p94 and mx178? ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 2:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mix-showing-promise-with-m-type-mtdna-haplogroups/3874/11 "2007-05-31T14:18:09Z")
> [@PheroQuirk](#): > > so… any thoughts on the individual effects of p98, p94 and mx178? I’ve posted some of my experiences with p98 and mx178 before. Those can be found with a search. Briefly, the rationalle for the ingredients you asked about: p98 - reputed to have effect on certain subpopulations, under investigation p94 - possible mood enhancement effects mx178 - high doses observed to inspire uninhibited displays. This mix uses a relatively low dose. Possible effect on inhibitions. to cover the other ingredients, A314 + ammo - light dose of -none and Androsterone, enough to inspire interest. The A314 mix (probably the Androsterone element) tends to temper -none and make it less scary. [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) - add an element of comfort, again aimed at disarming inhibitions. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 2:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mix-showing-promise-with-m-type-mtdna-haplogroups/3874/12 "2007-05-31T14:47:46Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > mx178 - high doses observed to inspire uninhibed displays. This mix uses a relatively low dose. Possible effect on inhibitions. Hmm I should try it again then…😃 ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 4:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mix-showing-promise-with-m-type-mtdna-haplogroups/3874/13 "2007-05-31T16:12:47Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > p98 - reputed to have effect on certain subpopulations, under investigation interesting… which subpopulations and where do you get this from? the only posts i have found on p98 have been in the one by you - a large dose made you sleepy and might have contributed to hit from a caucasian black-haired girl. it’s possible i am missing something. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 4:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mix-showing-promise-with-m-type-mtdna-haplogroups/3874/14 "2007-05-31T16:19:49Z")
> [@PheroQuirk](#): > > interesting… which subpopulations and where do you get this from? the only posts i have found on p98 have been in the one by you - a large dose made you sleepy and might have contributed to hit from a caucasian black-haired girl. it’s possible i am missing something. Let’s see what we see. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2007, 9:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mix-showing-promise-with-m-type-mtdna-haplogroups/3874/15 "2007-06-01T21:32:24Z")
A pity I don’t have p94 & p98! Perhaps I could replace p94 by SOE or [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)… And p98 by p96? I’ll be meeting a number of new people tomorrow… I wonder if this mix altered as above would be effective to make new friends (& perhaps get a date) of the opposite sex… ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 1:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mix-showing-promise-with-m-type-mtdna-haplogroups/3874/16 "2007-06-02T01:05:27Z")
> [@Phoenix](#): > > A pity I don’t have p94 & p98! > Perhaps I could replace p94 by Scent of Eros or Instant Openness… > And p98 by p96? > > I’ll be meeting a number of new people tomorrow… I wonder if this mix altered as above would be effective to make new friends (& perhaps get a date) of the opposite sex… You might try substituting p79 for p94. No suggestions for a p98 replacement. Still trying to figure out what it does. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 5:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mix-showing-promise-with-m-type-mtdna-haplogroups/3874/17 "2007-06-02T05:39:11Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > You might try substituting p79 for p94. > > No suggestions for a p98 replacement. Still trying to figure out what it does. Thanks for the suggestion… will see if I use it for tonight… ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 8:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mix-showing-promise-with-m-type-mtdna-haplogroups/3874/18 "2007-06-02T08:09:14Z")
> [@Phoenix](#): > > Ah that’s interesting. Wonder if it would work with K2’s too? Checked out my country’s haplotypes, the little info there is on the net, again [Blackwell Synergy - Cookie Absent](http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1529-8817.2005.00224.x?cookieSet=1) apparently we’ve got quite a mix here, that’s K\*(xP,N3), R1\*(xR1a1), F\*(xI,J,K), E3b, I\*(xI1b2), R1a1, E\*(xE3a,E3b), P\*(xR1), J2, J\*(xJ2)… wonder how the mix works on these kinds… ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 3:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mix-showing-promise-with-m-type-mtdna-haplogroups/3874/19 "2007-06-02T15:48:55Z")
Decided to go somewhere else tonight, so I’ll try a modification of this mix - people there will be strangers (as far as I know). I’ll be going for P96 instead of P98 as both seem to be relaxants. > [@Aha ! P96.... unlike other pheromones...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aha-p96-unlike-other-pheromones/2972/29): > > This happened again with a different mix - only overlap really was P96 so developing some confidence that 96 was the calming agent here. Pheroquirk had said: “This happened again with a different mix - only overlap really was [P96](https://pheromonelabs.com/) so developing some confidence that 96 was the calming agent here” Also I’ll try [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) instead of P94, since it helps people open up and adds comfort. Now I already applied ammo 1.5 a few hours ago when I went to the supermarket (didn’t meet anyone interesting though, pity). ---
**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 4:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mix-showing-promise-with-m-type-mtdna-haplogroups/3874/20 "2007-06-02T16:20:21Z")
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