# A Newb Novel **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [January 20, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-newb-novel/25123 "2009-01-20T15:43:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tigrfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tigrfan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tigrfan)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-newb-novel/25123/1 "2009-01-20T15:43:57Z")
Hello everyone! I’m Blake and I’m a Newb. I’m 24, tall and athletic looking. Moderately shy personality but I’ve been told by many women that I’m very attractive. I’m sort of looking for an edge, not a miracle. I’ve had moderate success with women but since leaving school the ‘ocean of women’ has sort of been downsized to a ‘coy pond’ I will be increasing my social functions and outings in attempts to test any products I purchase. My current job is landscaping, working outside with other men, so needless to say, my social encounters with women via work are non-existent. I’ve purchased products from LoveScent previously, but have not really given them a fair run. From them I own Chikara, alter ego, the edge, and scent of eros. Through a yahoo search I found you guys, and I’m quite excited about it. I’ve done a lot of reading on the other forum and now on this one, until I reached my ‘post viewing limit’ and decided to join. What is recommended for someone in their early 20’s? My goals are to attract more women to initiate conversation or to show more direct interest in me. Usually, if a woman initiates I’m good at closing the deal. I just do a whole lot better if a woman shows signs of interest first. I’m not big on approaching women without being fairly sure they are interested. Sort of builds my confidence if I see signs of attraction before making a move. I guess I’m looking for something to increase conversation or initial attraction. And another something that may add a sexual vibe. Having said that, I must play devil’s advocate with my little line of questioning here. I’ve read a lot of posts about so-called ‘hits’. I am wondering: If you find a mix or a stand-alone that produces a good hit, why would you continue to experiment or play with it? Is it because the hit was a one time deal? If the hit was not repeatable, then why post about your ‘amazing mix’? And, if the hit wasn’t repeatable, how can it be attributed to the [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/)? I just seem to see a lot of posts about a “amazing, mind blowing mix” where someone went out one night and had some success and wants to share their ‘mix to beat all mixes’ and then someone else posts another post with a similar title and totally different mix. I know that pheromones work differently for different people, but these types of posts leave Newbs confused as to what to start out with. Kinda makes me want to buy every product sold, but my bank account says that I cant ☹ But more importantly, based on MY goals, what should I start out with? Now that I’ve written a novel… 😉 Hope to learn a lot here and have some good success Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-newb-novel/25123/2 "2009-01-20T15:58:00Z")
HI there, Welcome to the forum. For your case, I suggest IO, IH and AMMO. IO will make the girls want to talk to you. They will be attracted and open up to you. You will enjoy lots of conversation with girls. IH will make the conversation longer lasting. They will feel like they have known you for long time. This make them closer to you. AMMO will get their attraction. They will be attracted to you. It can also sexually attract them. I suggest you get to know the individual phero first before you try to mix them. Have fun ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-newb-novel/25123/3 "2009-01-20T16:11:17Z")
Hey there Blake, great to have you on board the forums! First off, let me see if i can answer those devil advocate questions, mmm? As you’ve said, one problem is that different people have different body chemistry, so one person’s mix may be WAY over the top when used by someone else. Remember to take a look at a person’s age when you view their mix… they may need 5 shots of Ammo, while you may need 2 shots. Keep that in mind when viewing mix posts. Also, as a newbie, i do NOT recommend trying to mimic these mixes (although i know you’re just dying to try to). The best idea for you is to get a few products (i agree with Jamesbonded, although i might replace Instant Honesty with [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), but i’m ahead of myself) and to test each one individually. Then once you’ve found your “sweet spot” and understand how that product works for you, move on to the next. Once you know them all by heart, then consider which effects you’d like to try to mix with each other. Keep in mind that while a person may post about one night’s experience, they may have tested this mix for a week or more before posting. And since everyone has different agenda and different personalities, it’s very easy for there to be 5 different mind blowing mixes. 😉 As i said, based on your goals, i would recommend Ammo, Instant Openness, and Instant Female Magic. James has explained the first two, so it’s up to me for the third. IFM is a product that relaxes women and creates a comfortable aura around you that makes them want to keep around you. AKA i feel good when i’m doing A, so i want to keep doing A. It’s not a very sexual mix by itself, but mixed with IO it will help girls open up and stay around, and then your Ammo will help add that sexual tension you were looking for. Hope i’ve been a help. If i was unclear (not entirely out of the realm of possibility), please question away! Cheers! ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 4:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-newb-novel/25123/4 "2009-01-20T16:24:17Z")
Hi Blake, welcome along. Jb made some good recommendations, MFG gave some good answers, I would agree with them both. From me, concentrate on the socials first, the sexual pheros have their place but too many guys concentrate on the sex. Big mistake in the mating game 😉 Why do we find an excellent mix and then play with it, simple, we want to make it better. This forum (and Androtics in general) is primarily about research. Amongst other things there are guys who want to get laid, girls who want to improve their marriage, people who are just interested in the socio/scientific application of pheromones and PUAs who want to share their knowledge with us mere mortals. Join in, have fun and reap the benefits 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tigrfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tigrfan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tigrfan)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 6:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-newb-novel/25123/5 "2009-01-20T18:12:36Z")
Thanks to each of you for your insightful and quick responses! Now I’m ready to order some stuff and start learning ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 3:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-newb-novel/25123/6 "2009-01-21T03:44:41Z")
Hello welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 My name is Tisha, nice to meet you. I see the members have given some great mone advice. > [@](#): > > I’ve read a lot of posts about so-called ‘hits’. I am wondering: If you find a mix or a stand-alone that produces a good hit, why would you continue to experiment or play with it? Is it because the hit was a one time deal? If the hit was not repeatable, then why post about your ‘amazing mix’? And, if the hit wasn’t repeatable, how can it be attributed to the pheromones? > [@](#): > > I know that pheromones work differently for different people, but these types of posts leave Newbs confused as to what to start out with. Kinda makes me want to buy every product sold, but my bank account says that I cant ☹ All the products are stand alone. Each one causes attraction on its own. However they do so by evoking different emotions. Or more technically speaking, by causing different neuro transmitter to fire signals in the exposed persons brain. These signals are what evokes the emotion. You can layer product to get a specific likely outcome. The reason we ask about your personality and objective is to get a feel for who you are and what you may need socially. This way we can suggest just the products for your needs. Members like to mix and match for many other reasons to. Its fun to see different responses once you get good at picking up on them. its become a hobby or sorts for many. Some people have a wider variety of needs then others. Plus we are research minded here and this leads us to experimenting more. The long time users tend to forget the power of the product on its own. Steve and I often forget and were both experts. Sometimes when we are in a hurry and just apply one it still blows us away even after years of use. I remember a few weeks ago we were talking and he mentioned he was in a hurry and just applied Ishine before he went out and he was stunned by the results. So which ever way you choose its up to you. 😉 If you have questions just ask. **Your GC is on its way** Tisha