# A noob's insane crazy mix

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-noobs-insane-crazy-mix/190016>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [April 3, 2012, 6:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-noobs-insane-crazy-mix/190016 "2012-04-03T06:36:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![smartkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@smartkid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smartkid)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 6:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-noobs-insane-crazy-mix/190016/1 "2012-04-03T06:36:20Z")

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Hi guys,

I know this might sound retarded to some of you but please just bear with me. Recently I purchased Ammo 2x, IG, IH and A314 1.29a and I find it very troublesome having to spray from each bottle and I definitely can’t see myself bringing a bunch of bottles with me.

Thus I decided to mix all 4 of them into an atomizer. I mixed 12 sprays of Ammo, 24 sprays of IG, 3 sprays of a314 and IH and a shot of MX442 which came as a complimentary bottle even though i have no idea of what it does. Then i filled the bottle up with my favorite cologne, Bvlgari Pour Homme Extreme.

Currently I am letting it sit in my drawer to allow the different [pheromones](https://a314.com/) to ‘get to know each other’ as from what I read about mixing pheromones.

The smell is a little strong but it’s not unpleasant. I am also thinking of adding a bit of A1 for that extra touch. Perhaps I will mix more pheromones together in future as my pheromone collection grows.

Feel free to comment on this insane mix, criticism is welcomed but NO rude comments please. I shall report back after i have tried it.

UPDATE

I finally managed to put this insane(or retarded) mix to use today. Right before I left my office, I sprayed two shots of this mix onto both side of my neck and one onto my chest. The cologne in it did a pretty good job at covering up the original scent of the pheromones.

I did not notice any self effects but neither have I noticed any when wearing mones separately. I walked into a nearby bar to have a long island ice tea. The bar was pretty empty and i was the only guy in it. There were two ladies, both in their mid 30s, sitting two seats away from me and one seat away from each other. They are relatively attractive and soon both of them started giving me glances.

I pretended that i did not notice them and continued sipping on my drink. When i was about 1/3 done with my drink, the one sitting closer to me was already staring at me non-stop and flickering with her hair, giving me that DIHL look if i have identified it correctly.

I always tend to attract ladies older than me so I am kinda used to them showing interest in me, but today was the first time I had observed such blatant IOIs.

Much to my surprise, the lady who was sitting farther away from me stood up and walked towards me. Thinking that she was going to the ladies, i simply glanced at her and recalled that I have seen her somewhere before. However, she was not going to the ladies, instead, she asked if anyone was occupying the seat beside me. I said no and she took it, then asked if I am the guy driving the black Bentley(no bragging intended here), that’s when i recalled that we have had a short conversation before as she also drives a Bentley and we happen to share the same parking lot.

The conversation kept going, which i presume is the effect of IH. As our conversation continued, the other lady walked past us both and gave her pretty ugly stare then left the bar(Jealousy i suppose?) I was getting late for a reservation at the restaurant i frequent so we exchanged name cards and we went separate ways. By then i was quite certain that the mones were working their magic.

There is a Korean waitress at the restaurant I am interested in. I have dined there before while wearing ammo and ig separately but it didn’t seem to attract her. As usual, I am the only one dining alone in the restaurant and much to my disappointment, that waitress wasn’t there.

A female manager, whom I have never seen before served me. She seemed to be in her late 30s, pretty average looking. She was rather surprised that i am dinning alone(People virtually never dine alone at restaurants in my country). We introduced ourselves and i found out that she was actually taking over that Korean waitress’s shift as she was overseas. She shook my hand which came as a shock to me as this is very uncommon of a Chinese.

Through out my entire meal, she was wandering around me. She would refill my glass every time i take a sip from it and she had never not stopped smiling. Even when I am having my meal, I could feel her staring at my direction which, to be honest, made me feel a little uncomfortable. There were a few other young Indonesian and Filipino waitresses serving at the restaurant too but none seem to have shown interest in me.

As i had a bottle of wine while dining, I decided to take a cab home. I board the cab and straight away told the cabbie my destination. Neither of us uttered a word then until a few minutes later he asked how was my day and a conversation began. He talked about all kinds of things such as worrying that his daughter’s boyfriend might be a jerk, he don’t like his wife’s new hairstyle and blah blah to the extent that it was getting a little annoying. Maybe it’s the IH at work again? 3 hours barely passed since i sprayed on this mix so i supposed that the mones were still pretty effective.

By the end of night, I came to the conclusion that this mix indeed does work, at least for me, at attracting more ‘mature’ ladies. I have never observed such obvious IOIs when wearing mones separately. It could be just placebo since I was looking for results and had a lot of expectations for this mix but nevertheless, I believe that this mix might not be as useless as it appears to be and i will continue to refine this mix and report back.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 9:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-noobs-insane-crazy-mix/190016/2 "2012-04-03T09:39:00Z")

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Sounds like you wasted a bunch of mones, especially since you never sweet spot tested and have absolutely no idea at what concentration any one spray of all that mess will equal now! Of course that’s not even considering whether the cologne has anti-microbial factors (most do) which will kill all traces of the pheromones.

Sounds like an epic-fail to me. Perhaps next time you might attempt to do a little research first.

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**Author:** ![Redstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bbce88/32.png) [@Redstone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Redstone)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 1:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-noobs-insane-crazy-mix/190016/3 "2012-04-03T13:51:32Z")

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Entertaining read, and the kicker of this thread…his forum name.

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**Author:** ![andromun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andromun/32/365_2.png) [@andromun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andromun)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 2:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-noobs-insane-crazy-mix/190016/4 "2012-04-03T14:58:54Z")

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I’m with Steve, you wasted your time and more importantly your mones on this fly-by mix.

I’ve been a member for only 9 months and I’m still testing out bottles I purchased a couple of months ago.

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**Author:** ![pherom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pherom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherom)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 7:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-noobs-insane-crazy-mix/190016/5 "2012-04-05T19:31:07Z")

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> [@smartkid](#):
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> Currently I am letting it sit in my drawer to allow the different pheromones to ‘get to know each other’

Best quote in the whole forum as far as I am concerned.

Welcome to the forum smartkid. I hope you learn a lot and find the perfect mix. Good luck.

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**Author:** ![redlion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8491ac/32.png) [@redlion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/redlion)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 8:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-noobs-insane-crazy-mix/190016/6 "2012-04-05T20:58:36Z")

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Bringing a bunch of bottles with you…? What is your occupation, astronaut or something? I can’t think of a single job where you couldn’t secrete a spray the size of a chapstic in your pocket, UNLESS you’re flying into space and all weight must be accounted for.

Furthermore, you don’t need to take them with you. Most of the mones sold here last for at least a couple hours. The only way you would need to take bottles with you would be if your destination were more than 3 hours away from home.

Also, I’ll echo what was said above, the whole strength of androtics products is that they are measured and dosed before put into individual atomizers. They’re meant to be mixed on your skin, not in a bottle. As it stands, you know absolutely nothing about what’s in that bottle. I bet you don’t even know how much cologne you’ve added to that ridiculous concoction.

It sounds like you’ve created an enone spaceland equivalent. Or something.

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**Author:** ![Hydro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hydro/32/329_2.png) [@Hydro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hydro)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 2:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-noobs-insane-crazy-mix/190016/7 "2012-04-06T02:08:39Z")

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Smart Kid?

Maybe you got lucky & your mix is working wonders but most probably…

We all make mistakes, it’s fine.

When I found this forum I felt I’d made a mistake in buying substandard products previously, but we’re all here now so throw that mix away, spend a couple of days just reading all the stuuf on here, look deep, years back, and start again, 1 product at a time.

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**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 9:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-noobs-insane-crazy-mix/190016/8 "2012-04-06T09:06:41Z")

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> [@redlion](#):
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> Bringing a bunch of bottles with you…? What is your occupation, astronaut or something? I can’t think of a single job where you couldn’t secrete a spray the size of a chapstic in your pocket, UNLESS you’re flying into space and all weight must be accounted for.
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> Furthermore, you don’t need to take them with you. Most of the mones sold here last for at least a couple hours. The only way you would need to take bottles with you would be if your destination were more than 3 hours away from home.
> 
> Also, I’ll echo what was said above, the whole strength of androtics products is that they are measured and dosed before put into individual atomizers. They’re meant to be mixed on your skin, not in a bottle. As it stands, you know absolutely nothing about what’s in that bottle. I bet you don’t even know how much cologne you’ve added to that ridiculous concoction.
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> It sounds like you’ve created an enone spaceland equivalent. Or something.

Obviously he does know what’s in the bottle and also has a pretty good hunch on the amount of cologne, since he filled the bottle up after putting in the mones.

Now, this doesn’t seem like a very well planned mix, it should be pretty weak and most likely won’t work great, but that doesn’t mean it’s totally worthless. I’d use it up on some occasions where expectations aren’t high about anything great occurring while using the original products on better days and nights out.

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**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 9:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-noobs-insane-crazy-mix/190016/9 "2012-04-06T09:11:30Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> Sounds like you wasted a bunch of mones, especially since you never sweet spot tested and have absolutely no idea at what concentration any one spray of all that mess will equal now! Of course that’s not even considering whether the cologne has anti-microbial factors (most do) which will kill all traces of the pheromones.
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> Sounds like an epic-fail to me. Perhaps next time you might attempt to do a little research first.

That goes against the way NPA mostly is recommended to be used, which is to be mixed at a ratio of 1:4 or 1:5 or something with cologne. I think most who have made such a blend have discovered that the mones have not died.

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**Author:** ![21wq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/ccd318/32.png) [@21wq](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/21wq)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 12:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-noobs-insane-crazy-mix/190016/10 "2012-04-06T12:48:59Z")

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Watch him post back here, saying that he got laid with that mix. 🙂

Hey, it’s about testing right?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 1:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-noobs-insane-crazy-mix/190016/11 "2012-04-06T13:01:17Z")

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> [@Misein](#):
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> That goes against the way NPA mostly is recommended to be used, which is to be mixed at a ratio of 1:4 or 1:5 or something with cologne. I think most who have made such a blend have discovered that the mones have not died.

Depends - I have found NPA markedly less effective when mixed with some colognes. Which could indicate something in the cologne counteracting the pheros or at very least hampering diffusion.

However, this tends to be the cheaper colognes - Store own brands/very mass-market and the like. Not had that problem with any good quality cologne yet.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 1:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-noobs-insane-crazy-mix/190016/12 "2012-04-06T13:18:34Z")

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Yes NPA has a very large amount of mones DESIGNED to be added to cologne. Taking a few mones that are NOT DESIGNED to be mixed together in a bottle with anything is a FAR CRY from what some other product is designed to do. Using your analogy I guess if you mixed your taco in your soda it be just as good 😛

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**Author:** ![smartkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@smartkid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smartkid)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 7:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-noobs-insane-crazy-mix/190016/13 "2012-04-06T19:03:10Z")

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Appreciate all the inputs. Will post some test results soon.

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**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 4:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-noobs-insane-crazy-mix/190016/14 "2012-04-07T04:06:17Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> Yes NPA has a very large amount of mones DESIGNED to be added to cologne. Taking a few mones that are NOT DESIGNED to be mixed together in a bottle with anything is a FAR CRY from what some other product is designed to do. Using your analogy I guess if you mixed your taco in your soda it be just as good 😛

I don’t see any problem in this. Or any downside. Is there one? 😃

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 6:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-noobs-insane-crazy-mix/190016/15 "2012-04-07T06:50:00Z")

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> [@Misein](#):
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> I don’t see any problem in this. Or any downside. Is there one? 😃

I’m so glad someone FINALLY gets my humor.🙂 Sometimes I hold back because of hurt feelings.

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**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 12:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-noobs-insane-crazy-mix/190016/16 "2012-04-07T12:04:26Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> I’m so glad someone FINALLY gets my humor.🙂 Sometimes I hold back because of hurt feelings.

I love your humor and I wish more people would understand mine too. The world is just too serious.

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**Author:** ![Seeusmile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@Seeusmile](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Seeusmile)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2012, 8:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-noobs-insane-crazy-mix/190016/17 "2012-04-08T08:07:25Z")

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Sounds like adventure

Let us know what happens.

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**Author:** ![smartkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@smartkid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smartkid)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 8:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-noobs-insane-crazy-mix/190016/18 "2012-04-11T08:40:40Z")

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post updated.

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**Author:** ![Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/6bbea6/32.png) [@Zombie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zombie)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 8:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-noobs-insane-crazy-mix/190016/19 "2012-04-11T08:49:53Z")

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Sounds like a crazy mix indeed. I would rather mix small amounts of each to begin, rather than the entire bottles, but I wish you luck with this mix. Who knows, you may be on to something.

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**Author:** ![GetTheEdge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gettheedge/32/1555_2.png) [@GetTheEdge](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GetTheEdge)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 3:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-noobs-insane-crazy-mix/190016/20 "2013-01-10T03:36:23Z")

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At some point I am going to have to research the correct way of creating a custom mix of pheromones in one spray bottle, with dosage etc clearly calculated and known

This is for example, if I go out nightclubbing, then towards the end of the night, assuming I have spent quite some time with some lady(ies) then I would like to re-apply a shot of pheromones some time before we are due to go home, to aid in pulling them back to my place, or them pulling me back to theirs

e.g. if a woman is showing more and more signs of sexual interest in me, and it has been a long time since my last -mone application, now might be the time for me to spray 1 shot of TUTH covered with one double-strength IS, and make a sexual move, i.e. go in for the kiss or similar

Atm if I only want to re-apply a shot of TUTH + double-strength IS, then I think from now on I will bring with me a ToGo of TUTH and ToGo of 2x IS which should be ok for only two -mones, but if I start wanting  
to carry more than two -mones with me I dont think I really want to be carrying a whole bunch of ToGo bottles around with me. I remember leaving one ToGo on its side in my car too and after 24 hours it appeared that it had nearly all leaked or evaporated or something ☹

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