# A question regarding p75

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [January 7, 2013, 12:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-question-regarding-p75/57780 "2013-01-07T12:09:38Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-question-regarding-p75/57780/21 "2013-01-08T15:27:45Z")

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yeah …

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-question-regarding-p75/57780/22 "2013-01-08T15:33:13Z")

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My most successful mix thus far has been 2.5 mcg p75 , 2 sprays IS, 1 spray single strength ammo, 3 sprays IO, 2 sprays IH.

I have a feeling I’m going to use that mix until I can tweak it better for me.. it was by accident I used less IH before as my IH ran out of the togos as I was spraying it.. but bottom line is I used more IO than IH… The end result more talk and less serious talk compared to the 3 sprays.

Age is not a factor as much as we think with p75.. I’m 43 and 5 mcg is OD for me.. Also I can’t wear ANY mones on workout days as I OD right away as I’m tense from the workout. I can’t even socialize on those days.. i workout and stay home.. the off days is when I go out. Don’t know why but it must be my intense strength cardio circuit workout.

Doesn’t matter to me anyways as I feel I’d rather restrict going out to 2-3 times a week with mones. I tend to think if I can get 80% of my results on days I don’t wear mones just by dressing nicely , being more confident etc I can only imagine what days when I do wear mones will be like.

In essence mones enhance what you put out so you’ve got to go try going out and doing things without mones too so you can compare.

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 11:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-question-regarding-p75/57780/23 "2013-01-10T11:13:52Z")

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Anyone care to comment whether p75 in this mix IS AMMO p75 IO IH still makes women wet like the p75 of old (2009 catlord’s thread)?

Or is it just a “I’m above you league so I am a MAN and not going to be friended by you”.

Still18 have you ever worn this mix around women and have had them tell you they were wet soon after exposure? If you have how long after exposure did they tell you?

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 2:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-question-regarding-p75/57780/24 "2013-01-10T14:23:21Z")

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> [@dsouza](#):
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> Anyone care to comment whether p75 in this mix IS AMMO p75 IO IH still makes women wet like the p75 of old (2009 catlord’s thread)?
> 
> Or is it just a “I’m above you league so I am a MAN and not going to be friended by you”.
> 
> Still18 have you ever worn this mix around women and have had them tell you they were wet soon after exposure? If you have how long after exposure did they tell you?

2.5 to 5 mcg of [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) to the neck covered by about 40 mcg of P83 is about as most sexually intense a mix as I think you’re likely to find. Let’s called it being eye f\*cked by hot women. The blatant IOI like touching, exposing skin and sexual talk. Anytime a women takes your hand or other body part and puts it on her, sure thing she’s turned on. She wants to be touched.

Tests in the future will include IO and IH. P75 + P83 + IShine will add some youth to the sexy. I’m going to test P75 + P103 (40 mcg.). I think this has serious crush potential. I need to know, from anyone who’s used all three, whether you could use P74 for the similar effect. How many mcg. of P74? Is there something better, preferably from the Golden 13? I’m liking P103, it just isn’t too sustainable. FWIW, 103 smells like celery or cucumber. Get this: celery has androstenone in it. Why is a mammal steroid in an edible plant? Answer me that, botany people.

Edit:  
I added these links after reading and writing the post above. Sure looks like P74 is the close cousin to P103. Anytime you see equivalent doses (2.5 mcg. androstenone roughly equals 2.5 mcg. of P75), you know you’re onto something. I can see a serious possible crush mix with 75, P83 and P74. 40 mcg. each of 83 and 74, or thereabouts.

> [@Mobocaster - Journal.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mobocaster-journal/52416/128):
>
> Have a look at this link created and maintained by our very own PheroQuirk. Its not complete, but it might help you make some comparisons: [https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pQNd0an1GwdasioEPdlh\_IA](https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pQNd0an1GwdasioEPdlh_IA) Keep in mind though its user data and each user has their own experience

I agree with PheroQuirk. I think 103 has dopaminergic and dopamine agonist properties.

> **[Mix Guide](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MDBqhtt3QlndbH39lxsTkGro-1eZFqUFZk-vENpe4Lo/pub?gid=1)**
>
> This Sheet is private

> **[Dopamine agonist](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine_agonist)**
>
> A dopamine agonist is a compound that activates dopamine D2 receptors and belong to one of two different subclasses: ergoline and non-ergoline. Examples of ergoline agonists are cabergoline and bromocriptine and examples of non-ergoline agonists are pramipexole, ropinirole and rotigotine. Ergoline agonists have been linked to cartilage formation in heart valves. Dopamine agonists are primarily used in the treatment of the motor symptoms of Parkinson's disease, and to a lesser extent, in hyperprol...

75 makes me h_rny. 75 + 83 makes girls h_orny. 75 + 103 makes me want to do the whole FSU girls volleyball team.

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**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 3:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-question-regarding-p75/57780/25 "2013-01-10T15:07:54Z")

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> [@dsouza](#):
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> Anyone care to comment whether p75 in this mix IS AMMO p75 IO IH still makes women wet like the p75 of old (2009 catlord’s thread)?
> 
> Or is it just a “I’m above you league so I am a MAN and not going to be friended by you”.
> 
> Still18 have you ever worn this mix around women and have had them tell you they were wet soon after exposure? If you have how long after exposure did they tell you?

I’m not sure if [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) is a pussy soaker, I haven’t had that experience just by P75 it self, it’s more like a magnet, and I see a lot of approach invitations with it, more like sexual intriguing vs. sexual arousing. I would say AMMO in the mix would make women wet if exposed for a longer period of time.

From experience I would say Androstenone in a mix (buffered) takes about 2-3 hours to fully kick in and show extreme sexual effects.

P79/P83 are more like pussy soaker molecules if the situation is right and the woman already is aroused/turned on.

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 9:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-question-regarding-p75/57780/26 "2013-01-10T21:55:43Z")

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> [@monesmadedoit](#):
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> **2** \*\*.5 to 5 mcg of P75 to the neck covered by about 40 mcg of P83 is about as most sexually intense a mix as I think you’re likely to find. Let’s called it being eye f\*cked by hot women.\*\* The blatant IOI like touching, exposing skin and sexual talk. Anytime a women takes your hand or other body part and puts it on her, sure thing she’s turned on. She wants to be touched.
> 
> Tests in the future will include IO and IH. P75 + P83 + IShine will add some youth to the sexy. I’m going to test P75 + P103 (40 mcg.). I think this has serious crush potential. I need to know, from anyone who’s used all three, whether you could use P74 for the similar effect. How many mcg. of P74? Is there something better, preferably from the Golden 13? I’m liking P103, it just isn’t too sustainable. FWIW, 103 smells like celery or cucumber. Get this: celery has androstenone in it. Why is a mammal steroid in an edible plant? Answer me that, botany people.
> 
> Edit:  
> I added these links after reading and writing the post above. Sure looks like P74 is the close cousin to P103. Anytime you see equivalent doses (2.5 mcg. androstenone roughly equals 2.5 mcg. of P75), you know you’re onto something. I can see a serious possible crush mix with 75, P83 and P74. 40 mcg. each of 83 and 74, or thereabouts.  
> [Mobocaster - Journal. - #128 by SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mobocaster-journal/52416/128)
> 
> I agree with PheroQuirk. I think 103 has dopaminergic and dopamine agonist properties.  
> [Mix Guide - Google Drive](https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AqwnnWQ1GfjBcFFOZDBhbjFHd2Rhc2lvRVBkbGhfSUE&gid=1)  
> [Dopamine agonist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine_agonist)
> 
> 75 makes me h_rny. 75 + 83 makes girls h_orny. 75 + 103 makes me want to do the whole FSU girls volleyball team.

If you will, check your notes and share with me/us the age ranges of those **HOT WOMEN** who did you with their eyes, MonesMade.

Thanks! 😉

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 2:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-question-regarding-p75/57780/27 "2013-01-11T02:58:49Z")

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> [@M\_M](#):
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> If you will, check your notes and share with me/us the age ranges of those **HOT WOMEN** who did you with their eyes, MonesMade.
> 
> Thanks! 😉

If you Google Lauren Fendrick, USA Olympic Volleyball, she’d be about the typical respondent, only not quite as tall. We don’t exclude tall girls per se, but they do require a bit of climbing on my part.

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 11:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-question-regarding-p75/57780/28 "2013-01-11T11:14:31Z")

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> [@monesmadedoit](#):
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> If you Google Lauren Fendrick, USA Olympic Volleyball, she’d be about the typical respondent, only not quite as tall. We don’t exclude tall girls per se, but they do require a bit of climbing on my part.

She has a nice body! Loving her loooooon legs and that nice set of toilet grippers! 😉 But her mug! 🙄

So, going by your findings, would you say this mix does well with the younger crowd, or all across the board?

Thanks!

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 11:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-question-regarding-p75/57780/29 "2013-01-11T11:21:35Z")

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> [@still18](#):
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> I’m not sure if P75 is a pussy soaker, I haven’t had that experience just by P75 it self, it’s more like a magnet, and I see a lot of approach invitations with it, more like sexual intriguing vs. sexual arousing. I would say AMMO in the mix would make women wet if exposed for a longer period of time.
> 
> From experience I would say Androstenone in a mix (buffered) takes about 2-3 hours to fully kick in and show extreme sexual effects.
> 
> P79/P83 are more like pussy soaker molecules if the situation is right and the woman already is aroused/turned on.

Could you explain why this girl I see once or twice a week for 1 min to 2 min exposure only (she is a hostess) act more receptive when I wear mones like IS IH IO p75 and AMMO around her and less receptive on other days? The exposure is not long enough to effect her so how do you explain the difference? Do you think the self effects from the mones are creating this difference? I really don’t think its in my head (i.e. placebo effect).

I can only imagine how well my interactions would go with her with longer exposure.

Can you suggest any ways I can get mones to work better for this particular target since I don’t have access to her for long periods of time.. (1-2 min max). If only I could get her to hang around longer… She is a hostess and after she seats my SO and me she takes off for the next customer. She works nights and weekends… I have only 1-2 min to make an impression… By the end of a good conversation or 2 I’d like to ask for a date.. I have to be very careful because she flaked on me before when I called her (Although now she seems to welcome me with p75 its hard to think if its just business or she is starting to like me.. Either way I have to find out).. It seems rather wierd asking cold for a date when I have some time to build up (I am a regular at the restaurant).

I was thinking she just went back to school .. perhaps next time I see her I can ask her (How did you enjoy your first week of school?). And from there get into a conv about whats she’s studying this semester and then talk a little about what Istudied. The next time I see her I can ask her about what types of foods she like besides what they serve at the restaurant… After she gives me a hint I can approach her do or die when she’s alone and ask her out to a restaurant that serves those foods.

Problem is whenever I script I screw up.. things don’t always go to plan. I have to be prepared to ask her anytime really as I’ll never know when my mones will strike and when I’ll be in the zone… know what I mean? Any advice?

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 2:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-question-regarding-p75/57780/30 "2013-01-11T14:16:46Z")

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> [@monesmadedoit](#):
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> If you Google Lauren Fendrick, USA Olympic Volleyball, she’d be about the typical respondent, only not quite as tall. We don’t exclude tall girls per se, but they do require a bit of climbing on my part.

Question for you : “Has your p75 IS signal ever been attributed to other males near you , instead of you?”.. What I mean by that , in essence, is : “Do women ever get turned on by other guys near you thinking the signal is coming from them?”

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-question-regarding-p75/57780/31 "2013-01-11T17:57:43Z")

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Yes, you have to be a go getta!

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 7:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-question-regarding-p75/57780/32 "2013-01-11T19:28:27Z")

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> [@dsouza](#):
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> Could you explain why this girl I see once or twice a week for 1 min to 2 min exposure only (she is a hostess) act more receptive when I wear mones like IS IH IO p75 and AMMO around her and less receptive on other days? The exposure is not long enough to effect her so how do you explain the difference? Do you think the self effects from the mones are creating this difference? I really don’t think its in my head (i.e. placebo effect).
> 
> I can only imagine how well my interactions would go with her with longer exposure.

What was your timing of application of the mones before she got exposed? That might explain the difference in reaction.

I would spray the mones 15mins before you expose yourself to your target, to allow the molecules to diffuse properly.

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 7:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-question-regarding-p75/57780/33 "2013-01-11T19:41:28Z")

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> [@still18](#):
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> What was your timing of application of the mones before she got exposed? That might explain the difference in reaction.
> 
> I would spray the mones 15mins before you expose yourself to your target, to allow the molecules to diffuse properly.

p75 IS 3 hrs before I saw her, AMMO, IH, IO 45 min before I saw her.

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**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 7:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-question-regarding-p75/57780/34 "2013-01-11T19:55:10Z")

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> [@dsouza](#):
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> p75 IS 3 hrs before I saw her, AMMO, IH, IO 45 min before I saw her.

How about trying to spray [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) and IS 30min before you see her, and AMMO, IH and IO 15min before you see her.

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 8:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-question-regarding-p75/57780/35 "2013-01-11T20:12:01Z")

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> [@still18](#):
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> How about trying to spray P75 and IS 30min before you see her, and AMMO, IH and IO 15min before you see her.

No p75 IS makes me somewhat lucid and stoned the first 3 hrs which is why I spray it on so early. I find it needs a break in.. My best p75 hits have come after the initial lucid effects vanish. I find its long lasting so if I spray it on early I am ok.

I am really edgy with p75 on even at 2.5 mcg.. Don’t really know how to get rid of that feeling.. i’m also very antisocial the first few hours.

What ishappening?  
😕

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> [@dsouza](#):
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> No p75 IS makes me somewhat lucid and stoned the first 3 hrs which is why I spray it on so early. I find it needs a break in.. My best p75 hits have come after the initial lucid effects vanish. I find its long lasting so if I spray it on early I am ok.
> 
> I am really edgy with p75 on even at 2.5 mcg.. Don’t really know how to get rid of that feeling.. i’m also very antisocial the first few hours.
> 
> What ishappening?  
> 😕

You might be OD’ing on 2.5mcg thats why you feel antisocial and you get better hits after a few hours, my sweet spot for p75 is 1.25mcg, try diluting it and you should see better results straight away, p75 is some strong stuff.

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Yes dsouza, I think it is. I have noticed on many occasions this exact effect-the following, the “drive bys” in a bar, the standing near you effect. One of the best examples of this was when I was in a big electronics store (BestBuy), I was wearing [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) only, two sprays, and I saw an attractive tall blonde, about 35, dressed in attractive work clothes. She was looking at a software box reading it and went over next to her, lingered for about one minute, then moved to the next row. Long story short, she followed me around the store for like 30 minutes before she left. Was really amazing. P75 is one of my favorites.

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 11:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-question-regarding-p75/57780/38 "2013-01-12T11:36:12Z")

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> [@M\_M](#):
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> She has a nice body! Loving her loooooon legs and that nice set of toilet grippers! 😉 But her mug! 🙄
> 
> So, going by your findings, would you say this mix does well with the younger crowd, or all across the board?
> 
> Thanks!

Across the board with Hispanic and Caucasian females. I have little info. re. Asians or African-Americans at this time.

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 11:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-question-regarding-p75/57780/39 "2013-01-12T11:55:00Z")

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> [@dsouza](#):
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> Question for you : “Has your p75 IS signal ever been attributed to other males near you , instead of you?”.. What I mean by that , in essence, is : “Do women ever get turned on by other guys near you thinking the signal is coming from them?”

Not really. However, it has some unusual diffusion properties. I saw last week competitive aggression in some women that seemed to be indirectly caused by my pheros (and P75) but not directed at me. These aren’t girls I was involved with. They seemed to be competing with each other for dominance, and I seemed to be the cause of it. I see no such behavior from men.

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I sometimes get negs from guys with [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/), but not like I do with TUTH. I did have guys move away from me with funny looks. I’m ok with that though..more room for me to operate on the ladies. A314 w/ P75 is dynamite..works well together.

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