# A second "hello" and a new purpose.

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-second-hello-and-a-new-purpose/16873>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [August 4, 2008, 1:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-second-hello-and-a-new-purpose/16873 "2008-08-04T01:53:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![altum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@altum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/altum)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 1:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-second-hello-and-a-new-purpose/16873/1 "2008-08-04T01:53:18Z")

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Hey everyone? How’s it going?

You may or may not remember me. I made a few posts when I first registered a couple months ago, but I never actually placed an order of any sort. Part of that was me never getting that $15 gift certificate that first attracted my attention (honestly, I never really pursued it at the same time, either, so I can’t really point the finger at anyone). I did leave a fairly detailed message about my situation, but that’s lost to the internet masses, and I think I’ve done a fair share of growing in the last half year or so anyway.

Once again, I’m interested in these [pheromones](https://a314.com/), but I’m not sure why. I’m somewhat involved with someone now, but being that it’s nothing serious and just a summer fling that will almost certainly be cut off in a few weeks when I leave home once again to go to my senior year of college (a non-descript area in the middle of the eastern shore of the US, and also a place that I plan on finding a job near after graduation), I consider myself single and know that I will be.

**A little bit of a profile:** 21 years old, pretty intellectual and love to talk about things, whether small stuff or helping with personal problems or even grander philosophical debates, but I’m also somewhat shy. I can carry a conversation very easily, but I’m just not the best at saying that first “Hi, I’m so-and-so” thing. I’m not the most fit guy ever, far from it actually since I have a slight belly mostly due to me being cutoff from a lot of activities like surfing and tennis after I injured my shoulder, but I know I’m a relatively attractive guy (not to be cocky or anything), mostly complimented for anything involving my face, whether eyes, hair, smile, lips - whatever.

I know how to handle myself with a girl and in a relationship, but I lack the initiative to go up to a random girl. A mixture of shyness and me still being slightly jaded from prior relationships and flings, some which are still weaving in and out of my life.

**What the hell am I doing?:** Well, I haven’t been in a really serious relationship since my last year of high school, which lasted a good three years before it exploded in my face. Now I’m going back to school and returning to the dorm scenario (and even the bar scene for the first time) after having been under the age of 21, with the same group of friends, in an apartment for the last two years, and I’m doing it with the hopes of meeting some new people and seeing where things go.

**So, what do I want?:** I want to be able to make a strong first impression with the myriad of beautiful girls that live on my campus. I want something that helps illuminate the qualities that I have amongst all of the muscly, finely-tuned, stereotypically jock guys around me (_good_ physical fitness is something that, sadly, due to my arm issues, I just can’t seem to get back to yet, but I’ve been definitely changing my lifestyle and have had physical changes that are getting attention). I also want something that brings out that cute, sexy, flirty, playful side of girls and makes them brave enough to start the introduction, or at least give me gestures that encourage me enough. Seeing as I’ll be living right next to these girls in three weeks, I need to consider what can help give me that boost to get back into the game I used to play all the time.

Granted, while I’m looking for hopefully something that will grow into something meaningful, I don’t want to only attract the serious people who are living for the future and not the present. I do like having fun and going out and being the young adult that I am, but I want someone to attract someone into doing all of that with me again. Most of my flings the last year have been with girls back at home, not up at college, and thus they were never allowed to fully grow into something new and meaningful.

A lot of the girls I’ve been involved with recently, it seems to easily fall into that phase where I became that great friend that they don’t want to lose should something go wrong. They say they like me a lot, but our friendship just complicates it, and then the situation gets awkward for both of us. To me, this is somewhat a plus. Being a great friend is a mark of a great girlfriend in my eyes, so I would assume that means I could potentially be an amazing boyfriend even years since the last time I’ve been in a fully-fledged and heavy relationship. **I just need to get those sentiments flying after I come off as that guy they’re attracted to in order to not have the confusion and complications arise.**

Don’t get me wrong, here, I’m not thinking this is some miracle fix, but I’m not really a guy with no hope here. I’ve had several “deep” relationships and have dated many, many extremely beautiful girls. I just need some help getting things to jump off the ground early on so I don’t find myself either in the stereotypical “gay friend” situation anymore. I’m a more chill, laid back individual, and that personality just doesn’t stand out as easily at my school as it does back home. Granted, I need to get into new groups of people, too, which is another side effect I’m looking for.

**The end result:** I’m curious as to what will help my situation? What will attract girls and encourage them to make the first move? What will make me appear to them as someone to get to know or as a possible interest? What will make that strong first impression? And, if possible, that $15 gift certificate would be extremely helpful in me starting this endeavor.

I just need that initial boost. I’ll be able to handle the rest myself (though advice on what to use during that period of “dating/talking” would be helpful to, especially if the pheromones work out with reinforcing my own first impressions because I’d definitely be interested in trying out more).

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 9:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-second-hello-and-a-new-purpose/16873/2 "2008-08-04T09:22:40Z")

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Hello

Welcome Back 🙂

I am sorry you didnt get your GC the first time it gets pretty hectic in the intro section LOL . You should have PMed me I would have fixed that for you. Maybe it was a good thing though cause you do seem more ready now.

As suggest as a base you get AMMO, this is sexy attractive confident and can cause some mild arousal pushing you out of that friend zone and into the potential boyfriend zone.

I also suggest IO IH and Ishine (in that order if you cant get them all), they come in to-go size so keep that in mind if you do want to try them all out.

I am glad you have a realistic view on mones, They give you a edge and open up opportunities making socialization easier and more productive.

Be sure to read “what mones can do and what they cant” and “How do I know if I am getting hits” in the womens sticky section.

If you have any questions just ask.

**Your GC is on its way** 😉 Dont forget to check you spam box to just in case

Tisha

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**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 9:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-second-hello-and-a-new-purpose/16873/3 "2008-08-04T09:25:39Z")

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Hi there,

Welcome to the forum.

For your age and your schooling environment, try the social pheros.

IO as the ice breakers will definitely open up some girls and make them want to talk to you.  
You will be the centre of attraction.

Shine is good for uplifting effect. It makes people in good mood including yourself. It boost confidence too.

Good luck.

Have fun

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**Author:** ![Takhisis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Takhisis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Takhisis)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 10:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-second-hello-and-a-new-purpose/16873/4 "2008-08-04T10:27:56Z")

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Hi Altum, awesome introduction! Welcome back to the forum. You sound like a well-rounded guy and pretty mature for your age. I can relate with your situation of being a really good friend but nothing more.

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> **The end result:** I’m curious as to what will help my situation? What will attract girls and encourage them to make the first move? What will make me appear to them as someone to get to know or as a possible interest? What will make that strong first impression? And, if possible, that $15 gift certificate would be extremely helpful in me starting this endeavor.

As jamesbonded said, the social pheros would be good for you. Instant Honesty and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) will definitely give you an edge on opening the girls up to talk to you.  
Instant Shine is a perfect pick-me-up choice for getting your confidence up there and making you, in turn, even more social and approachable.  
Ammo also might be nice to get girls interested in being more than friends with you.

Check out the stickies in the men’s section for combos, there’s a lot great info there.

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**Author:** ![K24](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k24/32/1513_2.png) [@K24](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K24)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 12:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-second-hello-and-a-new-purpose/16873/5 "2008-08-04T12:59:53Z")

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Hi there altum, good to see your intro here finally.

for your age and situation ammo would be a great choice, considering you are TRYING to make a good first impression with beautiful girls, ammo definitely give you that edge of attraction.

I also suggest the socials to go with that, namely [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), Instant Honesty and Instant Shine, a good combo and you can get them in togo bottles to try without leaving a hole in your pocket.

Have a look at the stickies in the womens section regarding “what pheromones can do and what they cant” and “How do I know if I am getting hits” if you haven’t done so already.

have fun, if you have anymore questions, feel free to ask 🙂

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**Author:** ![altum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@altum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/altum)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2008, 6:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-second-hello-and-a-new-purpose/16873/6 "2008-08-06T18:20:13Z")

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I appreciate all of the information. A quick question, though: How is the ordering through the site with shipping? Pretty quick and painless? I’m thinking of going ahead and ordering some soon, but since I’m going to be heading off to school soon, I’m curious when the latest I should order would be.

Also, should I take the double-strength “instants” or the regular strength. I’m thinking of taking the regular due to me being relatively young, but I’m not entirely sure as of yet.

And thanks for sending the gift certificate!

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2008, 11:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-second-hello-and-a-new-purpose/16873/7 "2008-08-06T23:50:12Z")

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> How is the ordering through the site with shipping? Pretty quick and painless? I’m thinking of going ahead and ordering some soon, but since I’m going to be heading off to school soon, I’m curious when the latest I should order would be.

Yes shipping is pretty quick. Most **consumer product** orders are sent out in 24 to 48 hours. Keep in mind there is no shipping on Sat and Sun. You usually get it if your in the USA 24 to 72 hours after shipped. Again keep in mind if shipped on a Friday you wont get it till Monday.

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> Also, should I take the double-strength “instants” or the regular strength. I’m thinking of taking the regular due to me being relatively young, but I’m not entirely sure as of yet.

Start off with regular strength.

Tisha
