# A Skeptics Findings For Skeptical People **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 22, 2010, 9:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-skeptics-findings-for-skeptical-people/37948 "2010-04-22T21:43:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Asus28](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/asus28/32/1719_2.png) [@Asus28](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Asus28)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 9:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-skeptics-findings-for-skeptical-people/37948/1 "2010-04-22T21:43:14Z")
As a very skeptical person, I figured I’m going to post about all my findings. So one day at Walmart I stumble upon some Dial Magnetic body wash with pheromones. I said ahh what the heck I’ll buy it. No surprise, it did just about nothing at all. So I got online and did some research about these “Pheromones”. I found many sites selling them but very few had a forum, that’s how I came here. $25.00 Free gift cert for saying hi? BS nothing is free! well, then again they have 19.5k members… whatever I’ll do my introduction and get this so-called gift certificate (I thought that was a scam in itself). Well it took a few days to get my cert, but I did get it. I also got lots of friendly advice in my introduction post. Great group of people that’s for sure, eager to help and definitely educated. So now that I got this cert surprised that the $25 dollar cert was true I logged onto [AndroticsDirect.com](http://AndroticsDirect.com) I was Almost positive to find some catch or fine print of anything of the such to get my money or create some scam so I proceeded with much caution. I read every bit of text looking for billing agreements and subscriptions I might have to cancel and found nothing. Just a plain and simple no risk sale so I then put a bottle of to-go Instant Shine and a bottle of Ammo in my cart, used my 500 reward points, added the GC, and checked out (I think i had to pay about 4 dollars out of pocket) Since I payed the extra 4 bucks to get the overnight shipping, I got my pheromones the next day! I know the picture below doesn’t show that. Thats because called after i placed my order to upgrade the shipping. This happened because I didn’t read they had 9 dollar overnight till after I placed my order. Anyhow the mones arrived next day and they came in a nice envelope inside was an invoice with a handwritten welcome note (see picture below) and a free gift! The pheromones were tightly wrapped in a green bubble wrap. So I get everything taken out and inspect the bottles, labels, the bottles were rather full (not like a bag of chips where half the bag is air). Seems to be quality im still satisfied. Now to try them! After much research I know the first thing I have to do is take a shower and get very clean. I washed twice and did not use any scented anything, just good ole dial soap. This step is very important as noted by many people, so I made sure I was very clean. Ive read that if you wear -None types you must clean application spot with things like peroxide O\_O So now im clean and ready to see if this stuff works. I was almost dead set that it would not work, and it’s just glorified cologne. I was nearly positive this stuff would do next to nothing at all. So I read about where to apply this cologne, since I am going to try Instant Shine first, I applied 2 sprays to my forearms. I noticed a decent cologne smell then I waited. A couple minuets later I felt more relaxed and at ease. I thought to myself, gotta be placebo effect. Well I then took note my mussels were somewhat less tense and a sense of a “floaty feeling” came about. All are very faint but they were definitely noticeable. I said wow, neat. So I waited 2 hours, and gave me 2 more sprays… Consistent results! Even though your supposed to find your sweet spot and such, I decided what the heck lets try some instant honesty, ammo, and is mixed together… Figured I just got this stuff may as well have fun. So I applied 2 sprays of Ammo, 2 sprays of Instant Shine, and 2 sprays [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/). I rank like way too much cologne at first, but it faded to a pleasant smell the cologne itself smelled so good after about 20m that it i felt confident just due to the smell. I again felt like I was in a better mood. So what’s gonna happen with this mix? Well something did happen, I ordered a sub from a pizza place and when the pizzaman got here, about mid way through me signing the receipt he starts talking about the lawn furniture he wants to buy and how he gonna go home and have a drink on his new lawn furniture and just talking on. I was thinking what the heck? this guys nuts! why is the pizza man talking to me about lawn furniture, then it occurred to me the mones probably affected him in some way. I wish it was a female but results are results I guess. I will keep posting my findings, but so far I am completely satisfied with the product and im not skeptical of it what-so-ever. No snake oil or vapor ware here. I came into this forum and site thinking it was a load of bull just like that piece of junk Sham-wow I bought few weeks back (The Sham-wow really is a piece of trash) \*\*\*Come to find out AndroticsDirect/Pheromonetalk.com’s claims are true, the gift cert is true, the company is true, the quality is good, and the pheromones do in fact, change your mood. * * * [http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/6884/imag0526g.jpg](http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/6884/imag0526g.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Razorpowell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@Razorpowell](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Razorpowell)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 12:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-skeptics-findings-for-skeptical-people/37948/2 "2010-04-23T00:29:09Z")
IH gives me the most obvious hits on males. some guys just talk to me about the most random things. But even more entertaining is this- throw on a high dose of IH, like say 4 sprays, then get people to tell you random secrets. It’s a great way to really show how strong pheros can be. ---
**Author:** ![Kai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/cc9497/32.png) [@Kai](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kai)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 12:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-skeptics-findings-for-skeptical-people/37948/3 "2010-04-23T00:47:40Z")
Instant Shine and [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) gets me wired!!! add some techno/trance to the mix and I’m bouncing off the walls! O\_O ---
**Author:** ![Tiggs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2acd7d/32.png) [@Tiggs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tiggs)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 1:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-skeptics-findings-for-skeptical-people/37948/4 "2010-04-23T01:26:12Z")
Great Post Asus28, I was thinking this stuff was BS, but after reading your post it made me feel more at ease and eager to await my IS. Your post is not only comforting, but provides real insights as to your real-time experience with your mones, that is fantastic. I also like your wonderful upbeat and sense of humor, put a smile on my face. I am definitely not skeptical anymore. thanks , wonderful post. ---
**Author:** ![Asus28](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/asus28/32/1719_2.png) [@Asus28](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Asus28)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 2:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-skeptics-findings-for-skeptical-people/37948/5 "2010-04-23T02:05:42Z")
> [@Tiggs](#): > > Great Post Asus28, I was thinking this stuff was BS, but after reading your post it made me feel more at ease and eager to await my IS. Your post is not only comforting, but provides real insights as to your real-time experience with your mones, that is fantastic. I also like your wonderful upbeat and sense of humor, put a smile on my face. I am definitely not skeptical anymore. thanks , wonderful post. Thanks Tiggs! your response is what im going for! ---
**Author:** ![Tiggs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2acd7d/32.png) [@Tiggs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tiggs)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 2:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-skeptics-findings-for-skeptical-people/37948/6 "2010-04-23T02:18:03Z")
> [@Asus28](#): > > Thanks Tiggs! your response is what im going for! 🙂 its an awesome post 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 4:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-skeptics-findings-for-skeptical-people/37948/7 "2010-04-23T04:10:12Z")
Yeah AD is great, the gift cert was very cool and my first order was just A314 and TuTH and when I got my order I was like “WTF is this they sent me a freebie of IO too?!?” Honestly I have to say that AD is probably the best company I’ve ever done business with strictly from a customer service standpoint. a 25 dollar gift certificate for signing up on the forums (smart since it provides a great feedback base) A free to go of random products with every order to encourage future purchases. Money back and double money back guarantee’s (depending on the product) reward points to accumulate on purchases and reward points for referrals. etc. I mean I’ve never done business with a company that does so much to create good will with it’s customer base and does so in a way that’s so effective at encouraging repeat business and word of mouth. My hats off to the whole crew here. That the products actually work and work well only impresses me more. ---
**Author:** ![MisterMagik](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mistermagik/32/2360_2.png) [@MisterMagik](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MisterMagik)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 5:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-skeptics-findings-for-skeptical-people/37948/8 "2010-04-23T05:56:03Z")
I’m in sales and I get followed around and “life story” hits ALL THE TIME now. Yes, I was in Target just tonight in fact and had a couple come up to me, “We just wanted to tell you we like your jacket..oh and my hubby was thinking of getting this new…bla bla bla..” Insane. Happens a lot. Co-workers follow me around, poeple’s proximity decreases…nuts. ---
**Author:** ![tfrankz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfrankz/32/468_2.png) [@tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 7:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-skeptics-findings-for-skeptical-people/37948/9 "2010-04-23T07:14:43Z")
Yes, as you play with these phero’s the Nol’s are a lot of fun IH, IO, and my Fav CTTM. I think anyone that is a little Skeptical should give CTTM a go and get hooked like most of us. CTTM out at a bar with drunk people is something to see!!! Well enjoy the Phero’s and the power you can push people so to say with these things!!! ---
**Author:** ![Asus28](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/asus28/32/1719_2.png) [@Asus28](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Asus28)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 3:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-skeptics-findings-for-skeptical-people/37948/10 "2010-04-23T15:29:16Z")
Thanks the good responses 🙂 And thanks to whoever nominated the post… That would rule if i got an award but sheeiiit im not that lucky haha. ---
**Author:** ![darkxiao](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/darkxiao/32/1321_2.png) [@darkxiao](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/darkxiao)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 3:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-skeptics-findings-for-skeptical-people/37948/11 "2010-04-23T15:34:56Z")
> [@Asus28](#): > > Thanks the good responses 🙂 And thanks to whoever nominated the post… That would rule if i got an award but sheeiiit im not that lucky haha. Pssh get out of here. You don’t need to be lucky, you just need to be Asus28! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Asus28](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/asus28/32/1719_2.png) [@Asus28](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Asus28)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 3:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-skeptics-findings-for-skeptical-people/37948/12 "2010-04-23T15:48:39Z")
> [@darkxiao](#): > > Pssh get out of here. You don’t need to be lucky, you just need to be Asus28! 😛 Haha. The sober Asus28 or the Drunken Fun Asus28? Or the IS’d up Drunken Fun Asus28? ---
**Author:** ![darkxiao](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/darkxiao/32/1321_2.png) [@darkxiao](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/darkxiao)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-skeptics-findings-for-skeptical-people/37948/13 "2010-04-23T16:17:31Z")
> [@Asus28](#): > > Haha. The sober Asus28 or the Drunken Fun Asus28? Or the IS’d up Drunken Fun Asus28? Lol I don’t even know how to answer that. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 9:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-skeptics-findings-for-skeptical-people/37948/14 "2010-04-23T21:53:27Z")
My first experience with pheromones was a train wreck. I had noticed that there were pheromones being sold on eBay, where I was selling my stuff at the time, and I thought perhaps pheromones would be a good addition to my offerings since I was selling something that would go well with them. So what did I do? Mistake #1: I looked at everything for sale and then chose the cheapest thing I could possibly find. It was good advertising, and smelled fairly good, but I got NO noticeable results from it, and knowing what I know now, I realize that I would have had to wear the whole darned bottle of “cologne [pheromone oil](https://a314.com/product-category/oil-pheromones/)” to get 2.5 mcg of androstenone out of the deal. In other words, I’d have had to hypermassively overdose on “cologne oil” to get even a single spray’s worth of the weakest concentration of androstenone that Androtics sells. Mistake #2: I didn’t do my homework before buying. I thought I did, but everything I looked at was BS (there’s a lot of that when it comes to pheromones) and I was focused in the wrong direction. So it made me smell better, I guess, but the amount they said to use was so small that I cannot imagine ever getting results from it. Then I found my way to another shop selling pheromones, and I ordered an androstenone based product, like every other guy in the world, because the advertising and feedback led me to believe it would get women hot for me. Did it work? Sure! I overdosed immediately and got into a fight with my girlfriend that was so bad it put the first foot in the grave for that relationship. We ended up breaking up shortly thereafter, in part because of that fight. Again… I thought I had done my homework, and I thought I knew what I was doing. After some rather distasteful incidents concerning the experience I had with the user community of that company, I decided to look elsewhere. And that’s when I found AD. Dosed pheromones? High quality pheromones? PURE pheromones? Whoda thunk it! Not only do they work, but you can actually feel the difference between using the pheromones from here, and other places. Get some androstenone from somewhere else, and some androstenone from here, and try them both. The stuff that comes from China, and which isn’t very high grade or pure, “feels” different to the AD stuff in the same way cheap vodka “feels” different than the stuff that gets distilled a million times for maximum quality. And for the same reason, too - it’s PURE! I’ve been here ever since. The only thing I don’t get from Androtics these days is copulins, which I use so little of that it really wouldn’t even matter if I had them at all, for most intents and purposes. So yeah… welcome aboard. 🙂 Great post. I nominated your nomination. 😉 Have fun! ---
**Author:** ![Asus28](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/asus28/32/1719_2.png) [@Asus28](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Asus28)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 3:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-skeptics-findings-for-skeptical-people/37948/15 "2010-04-24T03:15:38Z")
Thanks cat, glad to see you stuck with mones! Thanks for the nomination! Surprisingly my post only needs a couple more nominations to get an award, never won much of anything tho so prolly wont happen haha. Sounds like you got things figured out now which is always good to hear 🙂 Today I got another hit! 🙂 Had a decently attractive female come into my store, ask me for a favor. I say what favor is that? she says I need you to check my oil so I walk about there and check her oil, after being around her for about 2 minuets she gets kinda flirty and starts chatting about this that and the other thing(nothing of any importance what so ever). Well a $\*@&@ co-worker decides to come out and say “Get back in here or im gonna tell your wife your flirting with other girls” (I’m single by the way) well she quickly changed her body language and attitude and that was that. Needless to say, I will have that co-worker pulling weeds for the next few days, maybe even in the rain 🙂 Muhahaha I’ve noticed quite consistently it takes 2ish minuets for mones to start and about 5-10 to hit full effect but maybe that’s just me. ---
**Author:** ![Asus28](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/asus28/32/1719_2.png) [@Asus28](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Asus28)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 4:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-skeptics-findings-for-skeptical-people/37948/16 "2010-04-24T04:19:59Z")
Thanks again to whomever nominated this post! I did spend a great deal of time in this post means something to me that people care enough to nominate it. It might not be the most detailed post, bit i made this to try to appeal to the skeptical people like myself and help the them realize AD and PT are real! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Tiggs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2acd7d/32.png) [@Tiggs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tiggs)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 3:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-skeptics-findings-for-skeptical-people/37948/17 "2010-04-25T03:05:27Z")
> [@Asus28](#): > > Thanks again to whomever nominated this post! I did spend a great deal of time in this post means something to me that people care enough to nominate it. It might not be the most detailed post, bit i made this to try to appeal to the skeptical people like myself and help the them realize AD and PT are real! 😃 I think your post has been one of the most informative to date, look forward to any new results you have experienced. I am still waiting for my samples in the mail myself. I am checking in here regularly to see any new experiences you been having, thanks Asus28 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 4:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-skeptics-findings-for-skeptical-people/37948/18 "2010-04-25T04:50:25Z")
this is the thing: Using AMMO and TUTH you would get more IMMEDIATE female attention..However, you could make girls resent or flake on you (buyer’s remorse, anti-slut defense trigger, etc) Therefore, although it seems as if you get “less OBVIOUS” hits with comfort mones, such as IH or IS, you are actually doing yourself some favor for the long run, if you can somehow get a girl hooked. Also, using AMMO + IS or AMMO + IH, it takes a bit longer for that SEXY attractive quality of ammo to kick in, since other comfort mones are diluting anone. However, once it kicks in, after you made her comfortble and somewhat aroused… man… Use it for dates, or when you have time with women at a close range for 5+ minutes. However, at bars and clubs, you might not even get that chance, so I would go with AMMO + TUTH. ---
**Author:** ![Asus28](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/asus28/32/1719_2.png) [@Asus28](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Asus28)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 4:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-skeptics-findings-for-skeptical-people/37948/19 "2010-04-25T04:54:16Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > this is the thing: Using AMMO and TUTH you would more likely get attention from females immediately. However, you could make girls resent or flake on you (buyer’s remorse, anti-slut defense trigger, etc) Therefore, although, it seems like you get “less OBVIOUS” hits with comfort mones, such as IH or IS, you are actually doing more, if you can get the girl hooked. > Also, using AMMO + IS or AMMO + IH, it takes longer for that SEXY attractive quality of ammo to kick in, since other comfort mones are diluting anone. However, once it kicks in, after you made her comfortble and somewhat aroused… man… > > However, at bars and clubs, you might not even get that chance, so I would go with AMMO + TUTH. I have been using IS and IH mixed with [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) due to the fact im not in it to get laid, I want a relationship built. Im just not that kinda guy, Im after mones to help break my initial “shyness” which seems to be working wonderfully so far. Im after the long term deal thats why I wont use TUTH. I just got out of a 6 year relationship im look for somethin to replace that. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Asus28](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/asus28/32/1719_2.png) [@Asus28](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Asus28)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 3:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-skeptics-findings-for-skeptical-people/37948/20 "2010-04-25T15:18:53Z")
> [@Tiggs](#): > > I think your post has been one of the most informative to date, look forward to any new results you have experienced. I am still waiting for my samples in the mail myself. I am checking in here regularly to see any new experiences you been having, thanks Asus28 🙂 I have experienced some consistent results Im trying to more bigger notes/test basis before I post anything. Need a few more days to poll for a update on findings 🙂 [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-skeptics-findings-for-skeptical-people/37948.md?page=2)