# A spray alternative to A314 oil for a cold, humid Swedish winter? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 22, 2008, 3:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-spray-alternative-to-a314-oil-for-a-cold-humid-swedish-winter/21835 "2008-10-22T15:31:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Taharka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Taharka](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Taharka)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 3:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-spray-alternative-to-a314-oil-for-a-cold-humid-swedish-winter/21835/1 "2008-10-22T15:31:47Z")
Hey guys, Being an oil product, A314 is not suitable for cold climates with high humidity which for me is a problem seeing how Sweden is very cold and has a very high humidity during fall and winter so I need to get a spray version of A314 but both MX103 and MX104 are out of stock. So my question is if any of you have experience with another spray product with the same (or very similar) effects as A314/MX103? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 3:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-spray-alternative-to-a314-oil-for-a-cold-humid-swedish-winter/21835/2 "2008-10-22T15:44:37Z")
IG is simular in ways to A314. Um lets see If A314 is dubbed the "James Bond " of mixes . Then IG is James without his gun and toys. You look like Sean Connery with both though. LOL J/K šŸ˜› Tisha ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 3:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-spray-alternative-to-a314-oil-for-a-cold-humid-swedish-winter/21835/3 "2008-10-22T15:44:49Z")
See if they have MX 172 or 173 in stock. They had some MX172 a while back. They are both spray variants of A314 ---
**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 3:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-spray-alternative-to-a314-oil-for-a-cold-humid-swedish-winter/21835/4 "2008-10-22T15:48:59Z")
[Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) is a spray product with effects similar to A314, Although without the -none negative effects of A314 in higher doses. All Pheromones will be challenged in winter weather as cold reduces skin temperature and pheromones do not disperse as quickly. the key is to put them in places on your body that are typically warmer. (head, chest, ears, neck) and avoiding the peripheral limbs, (arms and legs) as they are the first to get cold as the heart redirects blood flow to your core. ---
**Author:** ![Taharka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Taharka](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Taharka)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 4:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-spray-alternative-to-a314-oil-for-a-cold-humid-swedish-winter/21835/5 "2008-10-22T16:37:12Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Instant Gentleman is simular in ways to A314. > > Um lets see > > If A314 is dubbed the "James Bond " of mixes . > > Then > > IG is James without his gun and toys. > > You look like Sean Connery with both though. LOL J/K šŸ˜› > > Tisha So basically I get Sean Connerys sex appeal, thats good. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Taharka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Taharka](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Taharka)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 4:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-spray-alternative-to-a314-oil-for-a-cold-humid-swedish-winter/21835/6 "2008-10-22T16:55:10Z")
One of the most attractive aspects about A314 seems to be that it is basically ā€œAlpha in a bottleā€ for lack of a better word and I was kind of hoping that the product recommended by you would have about the same Alpha effect as A314. Is there another product that can be used **together** with [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) (provided IG lacks Alpha) that can give it about the same Alpha effect as A314 has? (Sorry for bugging you with all the questions) ---
**Author:** ![Taharka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Taharka](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Taharka)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 11:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-spray-alternative-to-a314-oil-for-a-cold-humid-swedish-winter/21835/7 "2008-10-23T11:15:13Z")
I dont mean to bug you people but I kind of need help with the above question. Is there another product (experimental, putative) that can be used together with [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) (provided IG lacks Alpha) that can give it about the same Alpha effect as A314 has? ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 12:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-spray-alternative-to-a314-oil-for-a-cold-humid-swedish-winter/21835/8 "2008-10-23T12:46:30Z")
MX 173 is currently out of stock. PM SteveO and ask him if it is coming back in stock any time soon - tell him you are very interested in getting it. It is the spray version of A314 - I have used it and like it. If that is not going to be availble soon, you can try another tact I take with [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/): 2 sprays Instant Gentleman 1 spray TUTH 1-2 sprays IH It is not exactly the same vibe as A314 & IH (which is my favorite work combo) but it is real close. ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 12:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-spray-alternative-to-a314-oil-for-a-cold-humid-swedish-winter/21835/9 "2008-10-23T12:53:48Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > MX 173 is currently out of stock. PM SteveO and ask him if it is coming back in stock any time soon - tell him you are very interested in getting it. It is the spray version of A314 - I have used it and like it. > > If that is not going to be availble soon, you can try another tact I take with Instant Gentleman: > > 2 sprays Instant Gentleman > 1 spray TUTH > 1-2 sprays IH > > It is not exactly the same vibe as A314 & IH (which is my favorite work combo) but it is real close. Interestingā€¦ I noticed that, for me, an A314 and Ishine combo, say 2 of each, had certain vibe-similarities to standalone IG too, except with maybe a bit more gravitas. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 1:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-spray-alternative-to-a314-oil-for-a-cold-humid-swedish-winter/21835/10 "2008-10-23T13:03:03Z")
> [@ntk23](#): > > Interestingā€¦ I noticed that, for me, an A314 and Ishine combo, say 2 of each, had certain vibe-similarities to standalone IG too, except with maybe a bit more gravitas. Exactly ā€¦ nice way to phrase it. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 1:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-spray-alternative-to-a314-oil-for-a-cold-humid-swedish-winter/21835/11 "2008-10-23T13:48:41Z")
> [@Taharka](#): > > Hey guys, > > Being an oil product, A314 is not suitable for cold climates with high humidity which for me is a problem seeing how Sweden is very cold and has a very high humidity during fall and winter so I need to get a spray version of A314 but both MX103 and MX104 are out of stock. > > So my question is if any of you have experience with another spray product with the same (or very similar) effects as A314/MX103? A314 oil should still work to a good degree, since it has a diffusion package in there. Itā€™ll just take it awhile to get going w/your own natural body heat. Probably 45 minutes to an hour for it to really gain traction with own body chemistry. You might also want to try MX252, which, if I remember correctly, is a test version of Chemical Charisma. If that ones out, we should definitely remake it and include it in a new test pack. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 2:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-spray-alternative-to-a314-oil-for-a-cold-humid-swedish-winter/21835/12 "2008-10-24T02:03:17Z")
Donā€™t discount a314 in a cool humid climate until youā€™ve tried it. I live in a cool climate with high humidity and I use it all the time. ---
**Author:** ![Taharka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Taharka](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Taharka)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 11:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-spray-alternative-to-a314-oil-for-a-cold-humid-swedish-winter/21835/13 "2008-10-24T11:42:33Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > Donā€™t discount a314 in a cool humid climate until youā€™ve tried it. I live in a cool climate with high humidity and I use it all the time. Even in enviroments with between 85-95% humidity and tempreatures from 0Ā° C to -8Ā° C? ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 12:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-spray-alternative-to-a314-oil-for-a-cold-humid-swedish-winter/21835/14 "2008-10-24T12:49:23Z")
Usually when the air temperature drops below the freezing point for water the humidity goes down. I am in a maritime climate region and the presence of the water keeps temperatures above freezing most of the time. Humidity can often be in the range you mention. Our body temperatures are similar no mater where we are, and many interactions occurr inside shelters in controlled climates anyway, making it somewhat irrellevent what nature is doing outside the window.