# a tiny bit of ayuda

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-tiny-bit-of-ayuda/31150>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [July 31, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-tiny-bit-of-ayuda/31150 "2009-07-31T06:09:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![tfer15](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfer15/32/711_2.png) [@tfer15](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfer15)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-tiny-bit-of-ayuda/31150/1 "2009-07-31T06:09:05Z")

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hey guys.

so i am gonna be a freshman this august in college.

and i know that there is gonna be sooo many beautiful women all around me(and some not so much!).

so anyways, i was planning on getting one of two new products for me.  
one is a314 and the other one was instant gentleman.

now i know for a fact that girls will react in different ways to each, along with the same for guys.

but what to choose? i mean, i have no clue. do i want to be the total alpha male? or the real cool guy that is popular and smooth? i just dont know. i have never tried a314, and only tried a sample of instant gentleman. so, i mean, i just dont know what to do.

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**Author:** ![BLADE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blade/32/2083_2.png) [@BLADE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BLADE)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 6:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-tiny-bit-of-ayuda/31150/2 "2009-07-31T06:41:06Z")

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I’m a massive A314 fan, but then I’m also a lot older. But you can still be popular and smooth with A314.

Haven’t tried [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), but I’m sure some of the guys that have will chime in.

And if you’re still in doubt, you could always just buy both 😉

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**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 6:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-tiny-bit-of-ayuda/31150/3 "2009-07-31T06:48:23Z")

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what were your results, or what did you think of ig?

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**Author:** ![tfer15](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfer15/32/711_2.png) [@tfer15](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfer15)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 6:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-tiny-bit-of-ayuda/31150/4 "2009-07-31T06:58:45Z")

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it was amazing! from what minimal testing i did with it(at work), i was ridiculously cool. no wait…kool… it was real awesome, but like i dont know about a314. like i dont know how to put it in words now.

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**Author:** ![KnowledgeIsPower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/knowledgeispower/32/1201_2.png) [@KnowledgeIsPower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KnowledgeIsPower)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 7:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-tiny-bit-of-ayuda/31150/5 "2009-07-31T07:41:18Z")

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Are you looking for attraction or respect? For me, A314 is much more a of a respect/high status pheromone. Granted, it’s great for establishing the “kool” factor with friends, but if you’re looking for attraction, you’re going to want to get other [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) as well. I started College as a freshmen and yes, definitely gotta try other pheromones =)

As the difference between A314 and Instant Gentlemen, I’ve read that Instant Gentlemen gives you a more approachable effect then A314 yet maintains a lot of respect. So essentially, IG is somewhat of a watered down version A314.

As for college, both will do you fine. But here’s what I recommend you get as well:

IS  
IFM  
CTTM2  
Ammo

I see you have IFM still, so that’s great! (considering Androtics no longer sells it). CTTM2 is a GREAT socializing pheromone that makes girls want to socialize with you.  
Ammunition is what you need to add spice to it. TUTH is too strong for women our age, so we have to stick to Ammunition. It’s like TUTH, only a bit more social and not as intense.

Good luck!

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**Author:** ![tfer15](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfer15/32/711_2.png) [@tfer15](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfer15)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 8:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-tiny-bit-of-ayuda/31150/6 "2009-07-31T08:37:23Z")

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yeah i forgot to put that i have ammo also! its realllll good. but couldnt i put on some IO and IFM, with some testing to find the sweet spot of course.

but u just dont want to be stepped on and pushed around you know? so like im torn

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**Author:** ![KnowledgeIsPower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/knowledgeispower/32/1201_2.png) [@KnowledgeIsPower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KnowledgeIsPower)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 11:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-tiny-bit-of-ayuda/31150/7 "2009-07-31T11:42:38Z")

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Well look CTTM2 is both [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and Instant Honesty. So you don’t necessarily need to buy a new pheromone, but you could stick with your Instant Openness. As for A314/Instant Gentlemen, you could most certainly add it into your mix! Just don’t use more than 2 drops if it’s A314 and 2 sprays if its IG. But yes, you don’t have to wear them alone!

Try IG with IO and IFM and Ammo, that should be a great mix!

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**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 1:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-tiny-bit-of-ayuda/31150/8 "2009-07-31T13:15:10Z")

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Try not to think of [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) as being a watered down A314. Think of it more as A314’s younger brother. One is strong and authoritative and says, ‘I’m powerful so respect me.’ The other says, ‘I’m in the know, I’m someone important but I can still have fun’. Both pair very well with the social pheros. I get a lot of mileage from Instant Gentleman.

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**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-tiny-bit-of-ayuda/31150/9 "2009-07-31T16:14:01Z")

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for me, ig works better with younger / college-age women than a314 does. at that age, many women don’t “get” the a314 vibe. even my own gf sometimes doesn’t “get” the a314 vibe if i use too much on accident.

ig is the “wow, he’s only 19 but seems so much older” vibe, and luckily you have had good results with it. definitely hits closer to home with younger women. fine-tune that with ammo or ishine and you’ll be well on your way.

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**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 5:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-tiny-bit-of-ayuda/31150/10 "2009-07-31T17:22:53Z")

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I totally agree. [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) really does attract the youngins’. It does also work on older women but it seems to affect them differently. Younger women see you as an Alpha male who can make them feel like a princess. Older women seem to see you as Atticus Finch in ‘To Kill a Mockingbird’. A strong guy who is a great provider and someone they know will be dependable. Now combine that with TUTH or Instant Jerk and it also gives the cougars a reason to pounce.

Instant Gentleman combined with Instant Shine or Instant Openness works incredibly well with 20 something (and younger) women.

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**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 5:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-tiny-bit-of-ayuda/31150/11 "2009-07-31T17:43:53Z")

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> [@Snoopyace](#):
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> Older women seem to see you as Atticus Finch in ‘To Kill a Mockingbird’. A strong guy who is a great provider and someone they know will be dependable.

repped for this. never thought of it that way.

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**Author:** ![tfer15](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfer15/32/711_2.png) [@tfer15](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfer15)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 8:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-tiny-bit-of-ayuda/31150/12 "2009-07-31T20:45:23Z")

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well as snoopyace and jayerea put it, the young girls like the IG. think ill get it! thanks for all the advice guys!
