# A Wickedly Bad Idea? Inverting the Mones? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 21, 2012, 9:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-wickedly-bad-idea-inverting-the-mones/56198 "2012-07-21T09:29:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Centaur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Centaur](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Centaur)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2012, 1:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-wickedly-bad-idea-inverting-the-mones/56198/21 "2012-07-22T13:10:16Z")
> [@Damage\_Control](#): > > I haven’t read through all the posts yet but I think this is a great idea. it might help maintain friendly relations when a couple break up and there are children involved. > > Caveat: the mones user would have to be friendly and try not get caught up in the warring that can occur when things deteriorate so much and things get hurtful and personal. > > It’s worth a go to keep things friendly and happy - even if it’s just for the self effects and to keep the mones user on the right path so to speak. Exactly.. a break up smoothener that kind of makes the transition less dramatic and overwrought. ---
**Author:** ![Centaur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Centaur](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Centaur)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2012, 1:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-wickedly-bad-idea-inverting-the-mones/56198/22 "2012-07-22T13:15:24Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Mobo what kind of reactions do you get when you use just P74. Just curious because A1 is the “love” pheromone so its got to be the P74 thats pushing it in the friendship direction. What dose you using ? > > Man up and just tell them the truth. I am sure it sucks for them as well once they find out your “not into them” after you have literally been into them. > > I know its hard and you dont want to hurt them but what most men dont understand is that to a women, sex implies your into them. It tends to mean more to us so there is probably no mone that will take that away once we have a preconceived notion. Especially if you used mones to get to there in the first place. You cant go backwards with feelings. Once felt they are remembered. > > Tisha Oh I do Tish, I do. I am actually one of the few guys I know who actually has that conversation, as opposed to just ghosting out on her and disappearing. I make it a point to be honest about where I stand and my intentions.. yet, its still amazing crappy it is sometimes. The way I am seeing it as like having an off switch. We use mones and other things to draw people to us.. to turn them on. Wouldn’t it be nice to have an off switch too? To make the end as smooth as the beginning? No hard feelings, no arguments just a smooth fazing out of intimacy? A man can dream 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Centaur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Centaur](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Centaur)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2012, 1:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-wickedly-bad-idea-inverting-the-mones/56198/23 "2012-07-22T13:17:54Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > That being said undoing feelings is much harder to do then evoking feelings to begin with. Its like making a mistake, most times its easier to not make it then it is to get out of it once you do. > > Tisha There it is, in one sentence. So true… ---
**Author:** ![cjw255](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/45deac/32.png) [@cjw255](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cjw255)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2012, 4:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-wickedly-bad-idea-inverting-the-mones/56198/24 "2012-07-22T16:36:17Z")
I’d rather be able to have mones that are customized to only pick up certain kinds of women haha…but I can’t imagine that being even remotely possible ---
**Author:** ![Logos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/aeb1de/32.png) [@Logos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Logos)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2012, 10:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-wickedly-bad-idea-inverting-the-mones/56198/25 "2012-07-22T22:19:44Z")
I’ve never tried this, but as a hypothetical… what about a high dose of DHEA? You can get DHEA cheap as a supplement. It’s kindof the opposite of enone. A high dose of enone might cause a breakup, but you might lose the girl as a friend or provoke a fight. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 1:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-wickedly-bad-idea-inverting-the-mones/56198/26 "2012-07-23T01:51:05Z")
There is a substantial thread here on preparing using DHEA here somewhere - Fairly recent IIRC, so someone is doing all the work. Not something I can easily get into as its a controlled drug in the UK, although with a pretty low classification. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-wickedly-bad-idea-inverting-the-mones/56198/27 "2012-07-23T02:33:09Z")
If your familar with AD putatives then you have used DHEA and I can assure you it has more pull then push to it. I wont say which one I believe it is but I have used both the coded (the one I believe it is) and the chemical (uncoded) version derived elsewhere and had the exact same responses and self effects. Just google “DHEA as a pheromone” and an old page will pop up from AD before they coded some stuff. I would post the link but they would probably have a cow LOL 😉 As a suppliment I can not say because it functions on totally different pathways. It is the precursor to pretty much all the androgens though so I would think supplimenting would be beneficial to pheromone output. I would have to look more into that to be sure though. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Logos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/aeb1de/32.png) [@Logos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Logos)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 6:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-wickedly-bad-idea-inverting-the-mones/56198/28 "2012-07-23T06:02:45Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > As a suppliment I can not say because it functions on totally different pathways. It is the precursor to pretty much all the androgens though so I would think supplimenting would be beneficial to pheromone output. I would have to look more into that to be sure though. > > Tisha As a supplement that seems likely. The effect it produced would hinge a lot on a particular person’s health, of course. I was just reading on how some types of inflammation reduced bodily conversion of DHEA to DHEAS, for instance. All those interactions are too complex for me to deal with so far, though. ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 6:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-wickedly-bad-idea-inverting-the-mones/56198/29 "2012-07-23T06:37:50Z")
> [@Centaur](#): > > I hesitate to ask this, but the idea has crossed my mind, and maybe others have thought of it as well.. > I date alot of women, with the intention of one day finding “the one”.. in the meantime, you meet women, you have fun, they get caught up and then its break up time.. and lets be honest, telling someone you don’t want a relationship can be a bit hurtful- no matter how gentle or artfully you do it. > I always make sure to be honest and go slow on the relationship thing, but that backfires as well.. Sometimes the one you can’t have becomes the one you want most because it doesn’t want you.. > Anyway, its been a pain in the a\*\*. I become pretty good at maintaining friendhips and ending on good terms, but its never easy for me. > > So, and idea… would it be possible to use mones, not to sexually attract, but to sexually disinterest a lady you are dating…yet maintaining a friendly vibe all along. I was thinking of a mix that says “friends” while removing sexual interest. So as the relationship begins to die down, she gradually loses sexual interest in you. > > I know, its bad.. but man I hate having to tell women that I’m not that into them.. The inevitable conversation, etc just sucks… > > Any ideas? anyone ever tried this? Try a high dose of P97, at least 50mcg - not tested that much, but every time I used it I’ve noticed a repellent effect, irritable behaviour and a tendency of women to not want to be around you. In low dosages it’s an opening molecule with some social enhancements. High doses seem to reverse that effect. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 6:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-wickedly-bad-idea-inverting-the-mones/56198/30 "2012-07-23T06:51:32Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Not to change the origonal subject but have you ever used anone and A1 together. If so what effect did it have. I am playing around with a new mix and would like your input. I’ve used A1 and anone together in many mixes - Some very overt, to great effect - A1 does significantly increase comfort/reduce the rawness of anone, whilst focusing A1’s physical/IOI properties in a very intimate direction but there has always been some amount of other moderators or steering pheros in there as well. I actually have quite a bit of pure anone, from both AD and another firm that I’ve barely used in quite a while and a very decent stock of A1 - I think this may be reason to give it another whirl! 🙂 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-wickedly-bad-idea-inverting-the-mones/56198.md?page=1)