# A1 Alternatives **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 12, 2017, 4:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-alternatives/66971 "2017-02-12T04:53:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Biatchzxz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9de053/32.png) [@Biatchzxz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Biatchzxz)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 3:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-alternatives/66971/21 "2017-03-01T03:48:25Z")
A1 A1. All I see is A1 all over man. I can’t seem to get which product is A1 or has it in it I’m really just afraid to mess my sexual vibe up with these girls man. I fear that I may be using all these mones the wrong way dude and I’m all confused dude I don’t know if I should stick to the basic What mixes would be sexual killing vibes Trying to really utilize my TUTH to work well. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is my base i start with 2 or 3 sprays on the neck. Then I have 96 spray and molecule c. Should I use any of those? With tuth and IS, IH , or Alpha314 oil and the Spray 1.32A ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 3:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-alternatives/66971/22 "2017-03-03T15:42:18Z")
Hey no worries man. With A1 I have found I have to use it solo in mixes and no other type of binding/crushy type of molecules like P74 or P96. I tend to only use A1 around a woman’s time of the month as it helps get rid of the negatives that comes with PMS and comforts them. With what you have Ammo is perfect at the dose you listed of 2-3 sprays for day use. The main ones I have found to either tone down or hurt a sexual mix when used in high doses for me is mainly P74, so I tend to use a very low dose like 5-10MCG total of that one in a mix. You could try to scale the Ammo back to 2 spray and add a 1/2 spray of TUTH for day use and I have found this to work very well. So what are your goals and what would you like to achieve? I think you have the molecules to do what you are looking for with what you have. ---
**Author:** ![tonyman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@tonyman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tonyman)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 7:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-alternatives/66971/23 "2017-03-04T07:59:18Z")
Re A1: Apparently a1 raises cortisol levels. So maybe anyone who suffers from high cortisol (and the accompanying adrenal exhaustion) would have more issues with a1 than someone with their cortisol under control. High cortisol lowers testosterone. Some claim that low test causes a1 intolerance but maybe the low test is just a side effect of high cortisol. The high cortisol is the root problem, not the low test. ---
**Author:** ![chrisepz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@chrisepz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chrisepz)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 6:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-alternatives/66971/24 "2017-03-15T06:11:51Z")
> [@justintime469](#): > > I have used both and when I was newer to A1 and what I found is it will just kill a sexual vibe and can be to much. I have found this very thing when I mix in any combination A1, P96, and P74. I agree A1 can kill a sexual vibe. It is safe to use a bit, and it will reduce the sexual vibe in favor of a crushy/bondy one. You can definitely use one drop. 10mg/10ml from per bottle is my dose, and one drop is more than enough. I got it from Lovescent. More crushy than LAL and no negatives. I get negatives from LAL A1. Next time I wear it with my girl, I’ll be doing half a drop by putting a drop on my forearm, and cutting into half with a business card and putting it down the sink. Wasted product, but it is worth it to get the dose right. P96 does not reduce the sexual vibe at all, but it does not hit the same comfort/bonding spot that A1 does. Trade offs of the two products… ---
**Author:** ![thyzhon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@thyzhon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thyzhon)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 4:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-alternatives/66971/25 "2017-03-15T16:29:08Z")
How long A1 takes to create the crush effect - I observe when I use A1 and meet a new girl for the first time the Impact is great. But how about for a girl who is already exposed to Ammo, Tuth and other pheros. Mostly I used sexual and socials. Now for the first time i am using A1 (Along with A314 and Tuth sometimes). Though I get the effects of Ammo and Tuth i fail to get the A1 effects. Or is it something like, she is taking time to adjust to this new signature? ---
**Author:** ![chrisepz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@chrisepz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chrisepz)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 4:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-alternatives/66971/26 "2017-03-15T16:33:53Z")
> [@thyzhon](#): > > How long A1 takes to create the crush effect - I observe when I use A1 and meet a new girl for the first time the Impact is great. > > But how about for a girl who is already exposed to Ammo, Tuth and other pheros. Mostly I used sexual and socials. Now for the first time i am using A1 (Along with A314 and Tuth sometimes). Though I get the effects of Ammo and Tuth i fail to get the A1 effects. > > Or is it something like, she is taking time to adjust to this new signature? Multiple exposures, can’t say for sure. I think if she’s exposed the first meeting the impact is outstanding and the sexual tension is still there. It’s like shes met Mr perfect. If she hasn’t always known you with A1 on, it takes adjusting. I’m glad that our experiences are mirroring each other. I don’t think it’ll ever be the same impact as first meeting and always wearing a1 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 6:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-alternatives/66971/27 "2017-03-15T18:42:13Z")
> [@thyzhon](#): > > How long A1 takes to create the crush effect - I observe when I use A1 and meet a new girl for the first time the Impact is great. > > But how about for a girl who is already exposed to Ammo, Tuth and other pheros. Mostly I used sexual and socials. Now for the first time i am using A1 (Along with A314 and Tuth sometimes). Though I get the effects of Ammo and Tuth i fail to get the A1 effects. > > Or is it something like, she is taking time to adjust to this new signature? How long is a piece of string..? Really, it varies considerably between individuals but personally I wouldn’t regard anything resulting from less than six exposure/withdrawal cycles as any indicator of fallout/crushing setting-in. Less than that, it could well be another aspect of attraction or a more immediate phero response in play. Even then, the response will still build for some time till it reaches its strongest and some women will take a lot longer to manifest compared to others, if at all and I have found that it can manifest as a result of a change in base A1 exposure some way down the line. So look to repeatedy expose your targets for the forseeable future and when you are ready, reduce the A1 or A1 proportion against a sexual. P83 is also useful here as its disinhibition can help a developing fallout manifest itself and P83 will not over-moderate your mixes in the way that [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) or P96 can, esp when used alongside A1 in a mix. ---
**Author:** ![thyzhon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@thyzhon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thyzhon)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 4:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-alternatives/66971/28 "2017-03-16T04:00:41Z")
Thanks Mobo and chrisepz for the insight. I am going with A1 + A314 as the base with [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) and a bit of sexual. I am changing between Tuth and NPA. Do you think IS, IO or IH is required in the above combination for the fallout to be more effective. I tried with CTTM once and the results were good. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2017, 1:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-alternatives/66971/29 "2017-03-19T13:08:01Z")
Don’t use IO in a fallout mix with A314. The amount of alpanol will work right against you. It is usable with A1 though but the A1/IO combo can be a hefty None moderator and too soft wihout it. IH is usable and can complement A314 in base mixes very well indeed - Similarly, IH/IS is a useful base mix if your subject does not respond well to A314. ---
**Author:** ![thyzhon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@thyzhon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thyzhon)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2017, 2:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-alternatives/66971/30 "2017-03-19T14:35:20Z")
2 weeks of fallout mix exposure to the base mix with some steering. Though I see a lot of positive signs from her - I felt something is missing. I had not included IS or IH in this mix. I will try with a single spray of IS and IH with base mix tomorrow - Lets see how it goes. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 10:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-alternatives/66971/31 "2017-03-20T10:34:16Z")
Once the signs of fallout are well established, sometimes a change will help bring it out in the open. How much A1 are you using? Dropping its proportion relative to the status and sexual elements would be my first suggestion - at least if an opportunity to take her into a more social/sexual situation and going high on the sexuals/disinhibitors isn’t an option. ---
**Author:** ![tonyman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@tonyman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tonyman)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 10:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-alternatives/66971/32 "2017-03-20T10:56:42Z")
Can IH, IS and p74 work together in a fallout mix, Mobo? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 11:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-alternatives/66971/33 "2017-03-20T11:27:43Z")
Yes, IH/[P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) is a valuable base combo as well, better than IH/Is IMO but you can still use Is freely. Also A314/IH/P74, esp around Indian/subcontinental women and in professional use. Needs careful sexual steering and more proactive attractive behaviours compared to A1 though. ---
**Author:** ![thyzhon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@thyzhon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thyzhon)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2017, 3:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-alternatives/66971/34 "2017-03-21T03:42:02Z")
Hi Mobo, I started with 2 spray of A1 1:5 ratio. After 2 weeks i dropped to 1 and half spray and started including a sexual (I am mixing between Tuth and NPA - Hardly half spray). So my base mix is A314, A1, [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) - Added with Half spray Tuth or NPA. Now I am running out of P83 and the next order delivery is going to take at least 10 days. So its going to be A314, A1, P83 (last spray :-() IH and IS… ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2017, 11:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-alternatives/66971/35 "2017-03-21T11:48:00Z")
[P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) isn’t IMO an essential part of a base mix and as it can go out of stock for sometimes quite long periods, its one I now use in a more sparing and targeted manner, mainly for times when the opportunity to get physical is most likely or when I’ve had good indicators of fallout setting-in and I want to step things-up a bit physically/sexually. I’ll use it along with an increased sexual in a more uninhibited environment. 2 sprays 1:5 A1 seems fine and going down will still retain an effective dose, what are your doses/planned doses for the rest? You may find that even though you go-down on the A1, with IH in the mix, you may need to go a bit higher on the sexual as IH and A1 are both fairly good None moderators. Also at 31, you should be able to use a more prominent None dose if its away from polite company and into a more uninhibited/sexual environment. ---
**Author:** ![thyzhon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@thyzhon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thyzhon)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2017, 3:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-alternatives/66971/36 "2017-03-22T03:44:39Z")
Hi Mobo, I am planning something like this to continue.. 2 Drops of A314, 2 IH (1 X), 2 IS (1 X), A1 1 spray (or 1 and half). Now on one day I am using half spray of Tuth and the other day half spray of NPA (1:5 ratio) - is this ok or should I change something. Now lady is nearing her monthly bleeding time. During this 5 days I am planning to avoid Tuth and NPA. I will be travelling for 10 days next month. So after exactly 30 days of exposure it will be 10 days of withdrawl - No contact and reintroduce the signature once I am back. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2017, 12:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-alternatives/66971/37 "2017-03-22T12:17:18Z")
Is that thirty days exposure without a break? You would maybe better to work on a shorter timescale - With fallout, the withdrawal periods are every bit as important as the exposures as it maximises the effect of the mix on reintroduction. After an initial period of exposure, you would be much better to work with a few days exposure, then a few days withdrawal, then reintroduction and so-on. that way the “missing you” effects develop and are compounded to best effect. I wouldn’t be too regular about the exposure/withdrawal cycle either - again it keeps things unpredictable and adds to the impression of you as a guy with options/his own life, which is almost always a more attractive proposition to a woman than a guy who is “always there” for her - that’s too easy! As the fallout develops, you should notice her making more strident efforts to keep in-touch/involve herself/be around you - but don’t give-in too easily as she needs to be the one to qualify herself to you, not the other way round. And don’t be too regular about it, a bit of uncertainty/unpredictability actually works really well too - so don’t be afraid to shake things-up a bit. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2017, 12:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-alternatives/66971/38 "2017-03-22T12:31:51Z")
Yes, avoiding TUTH and NPA around her period is indeed good - A1’s properties are unsurpassed at this time and you will have all the more impact for it. Otherwise, the base mix looks good to me - if the A314 makes her edgy (it has is a trace amount of None) you could go down on it or even drop it as A1/IH/IS is still a viable proposition but sometimes a little edginess/ambivalence in a mix is good too - its up to how you judge her. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![thyzhon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@thyzhon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thyzhon)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2017, 4:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-alternatives/66971/39 "2017-03-22T16:15:37Z")
Hi Mobo, Thanks a lot for the suggestion. Thing is I have to meet her 5 days a week (I am her boss ) and she sit very next to me the whole day. So the 30 days is like 5 days exposure and 2 days no meeting. She is a very hard target, the one women who I had seen can control her emotions very well. So lot of effort is required to being out the emotion. Yes I am playing the “Don t care” “I have lot of options” attitude and I see slowly she is making the effort. But not to the fallout extend - May be some more time is required. Is it ok to avoid the base mix for someday even I meet her? or should I continue the base mix whenever I meet her? Apologies for the dump questions 🙂 and thanks for the patience. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-alternatives/66971.md?page=1)