# A1 dropper bottle, 2mcg per drop: how do I translate that to spray dosage? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 14, 2011, 4:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-dropper-bottle-2mcg-per-drop-how-do-i-translate-that-to-spray-dosage/48841 "2011-02-14T04:09:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bb151515](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@bb151515](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bb151515)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 4:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-dropper-bottle-2mcg-per-drop-how-do-i-translate-that-to-spray-dosage/48841/1 "2011-02-14T04:09:52Z")
i was hoping someone could help me out with this. Ive been looking aound for some A1. I found a website, I dont know if its the unmentionable one", which sells it and the site lists it as having “The 10ml **1mg** bottle yields **2mcg per drop** at 500 drops per bottle”. Ive read that 25-50mcg is what is recommended. How do I translate what this dropper bottle has to a spray bottles dosage? thank you for any help. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 4:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-dropper-bottle-2mcg-per-drop-how-do-i-translate-that-to-spray-dosage/48841/2 "2011-02-14T04:18:11Z")
> [@bb151515](#): > > i was hoping someone could help me out with this. Ive been looking aound for some A1. I found a website, I dont know if its the unmentionable one", which sells it and the site lists it as having “The 10ml **1mg** bottle yields **2mcg per drop** at 500 drops per bottle”. Ive read that 25-50mcg is what is recommended. How do I translate what this dropper bottle has to a spray bottles dosage? thank you for any help. Look up K train’s A-1 Guide. I would tell you how to do it but its been explained more times than I can remember by many users lol 😃 ---
**Author:** ![bb151515](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@bb151515](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bb151515)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 4:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-dropper-bottle-2mcg-per-drop-how-do-i-translate-that-to-spray-dosage/48841/3 "2011-02-14T04:27:19Z")
K Trains guide speaks of love scents A1 which has 40-45 mcg per drops and then he speaks of diluting it. This bottle seems to be the opposite 2mcg per drop. If you dont want to explain then hopefully someone else can ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 5:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-dropper-bottle-2mcg-per-drop-how-do-i-translate-that-to-spray-dosage/48841/4 "2011-02-14T05:30:59Z")
> [@bb151515](#): > > K Trains guide speaks of love scents A1 which has 40-45 mcg per drops and then he speaks of diluting it. This bottle seems to be the opposite 2mcg per drop. > If you dont want to explain then hopefully someone else can If what your saying is true I would already tell you that its a waste of time buying that product if you plan to use 25-50 mcgs of A-1 as a application. So let me get this straight. The WHOLE bottle is only 1 miligram of A-1? If thats the case you shouldnt have to dilute it at all because 100 mcgs (which would be 1 mL from what your proposing to buy) would translate to 14.99 something mcgs per spray of A-1. If you wanted half of that being around 7.5 mcgs per spray you would mix the A-1 with alcohol at a 1:1 ratio To translate you take into account how many sprays a bottle does. The big blue bottle for 30 mL does 6.667 sprays per mL. Since your proposed product is 100 mcgs a mL (1 mg divided by 10 is 100) That product will give you around 67 sprays total if dont dilute it at all. If its unscented I wouldn’t consider getting it as its impractical in many ways. A-1 smells quite a bit like pee and with such a low concentration of A-1 you won’t be able to add any scent to it without drastically lowering the concentration. With that in mind if you still want to buy it I suppose layering scent on top of it can suffice. Sorry about not being helpful before but honestly anyone with okay math skills can figure this out very easily. Just keep in mind that To-Go’s are 40 sprays for 5 mL and 30 mL bottles are 200 sprays for 30 mL. If you trying to be very exact with the numbers always make sure you using the right numbers to garner the right ratios. ---
**Author:** ![bb151515](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@bb151515](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bb151515)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 5:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-dropper-bottle-2mcg-per-drop-how-do-i-translate-that-to-spray-dosage/48841/5 "2011-02-14T05:45:13Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > Sorry about not being helpful before but honestly anyone with okay math skills can figure this out very easily. you know what buddy this is the second post of mine that you have responded to in a very snotty attitude. Seriously what is your problem? Things like this are not necessary at all. If you have nothing constructive to say then stay out. I am by no means a [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) expert and am looking for people to help me out me out. if you need to do this please do it elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![JAYCEE1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@JAYCEE1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JAYCEE1)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 11:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-dropper-bottle-2mcg-per-drop-how-do-i-translate-that-to-spray-dosage/48841/6 "2011-02-14T11:38:25Z")
Sounds like the one that is in a DPG base. If you are looking at the LAL website then their products are legit. I have their A1 in the 5mg per 10mL concentration. I use the drops straight out of the bottle. (About 4 at a time.) If you want to make a spray, you will most likely want the A1 from LS since it’s in an alcohol base. I have both. In winter I tend to use alcohol and use the DPG for the hotter months. A1 is expensive and I’m not sure that I’ve ever seen an “A1 hit.” Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 12:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-dropper-bottle-2mcg-per-drop-how-do-i-translate-that-to-spray-dosage/48841/7 "2011-02-14T12:51:19Z")
I agree, Sounds like your talking about LAL. Not sure if they on on the black list, if they are they shouldn’t be IMO, they are a good company. > [@](#): > > Ive read that 25-50mcg is what is recommended. That’s the high end dosage and you risk causing depression or a down blue feeling in you and other males around you with that dose. It works for some people fine but its not where I would start dosage wise unless you know thats what you need and its not causing adverse effects. Keep in mind you may not be getting any adverse effects with it and thats great but mones dont only affect you they effect those around you. That’s why you need to be more mindful with this one. 10 to 15 mcg should do the trick. People tend to have the more is better mentality with mones which is not good. More can actually have negative effects with some mones. That being said, I would just use it straight to the skin until you know your dosage with this particular product before mixing it into a spray form. OK now for the math part Aghhhh LOL 😉 According to Gary there are 500 drops in the 10 ml bottle at 2 mcg per drop. So 1 ml has 50 drops in it for a total of 100 mcg. Now you didnt mention what sized bottle you plan to use to dilute it or what you plan to dilute it in. I am going to assume its a 5 ml to go bottle size like they sell here or at least use that as a example until I have more info. If you put 4 ml of carrier or cover in a 5ML bottle and added 1 ml of your A1 then you would have a dosage of 2.5 mcg of A1 per spray. You would have to over scent or over use it to get to a 10 mcg dosage. Not good… which Olfact was trying to explain. You cant get to 25 to 50 mcg with what your buying. You need a higher concentration when you mix or dilute. Your options is either use it straight which means you would need 5 drops to reach the safer 10 mcg dosage which I think is a better method of wearing this one because you have more control or 20 drops straight to reach 40 mcg the mid point of the dosage you suggested using. Now if your heart is set on that dosage(25 to 50 mcg) and mixing it in a spray form then dont buy the 2mg bottle get the 10 mg bottle. 50 drops in one ML at 20 mcg per drop gives you 1000 mcg per ML. 1000 divided by the 40 sprays in a to-go size spray bottle (4 ml of carrier included) gives you 25 mcg per spray. Again I dont think you need that much but thats the math. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![bb151515](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@bb151515](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bb151515)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 1:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-dropper-bottle-2mcg-per-drop-how-do-i-translate-that-to-spray-dosage/48841/8 "2011-02-14T13:09:06Z")
thank you tisha, jaycee ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 3:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-dropper-bottle-2mcg-per-drop-how-do-i-translate-that-to-spray-dosage/48841/9 "2011-02-14T15:12:28Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > Look up K train’s A-1 Guide. I would tell you how to do it but its been explained more times than I can remember by many users lol 😃 > [@bb151515](#): > > you know what buddy this is the second post of mine that you have responded to in a very snotty attitude. Seriously what is your problem? Things like this are not necessary at all. If you have nothing constructive to say then stay out. I am by no means a pheromone expert and am looking for people to help me out me out. if you need to do this please do it elsewhere. I don’t think the answer was Snotty at all. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 3:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-dropper-bottle-2mcg-per-drop-how-do-i-translate-that-to-spray-dosage/48841/10 "2011-02-14T15:30:22Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > I don’t think the answer was Snotty at all. Its okay. I get where he’s coming from. From time to time I’m not as helpful/ delicate/ or even tactful. I’ll simply leave it at that. It just irks me sometimes that people will go and buy A-1 without having any grasp of the numbers in terms of “How many sprays are in a bottle and a mL” and how general mathematical division works. Maybe that makes me arrogant but it really is a not so good reflection of the education system in this country. When I first came to AD I read more about the technical part of products because honestly that to me is the most significant information I can read. Many places sell things containing [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) such as enone, anol, erone but the content (mcg/ mg amounts) as well as how many uses I can get out of it along with the the effectiveness/value of the product. People think dilution concentration is like rocket science because pheromones are a intimidating subject (it really is just not in that particular sense) but if you’ve ever made lemonade, made a bullet (father taught me that), calculated a GPA, made a custom hot sauce (working on that lol) it all comes down to dilution concentration and ratio. ---
**Author:** ![bb151515](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@bb151515](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bb151515)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 4:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-dropper-bottle-2mcg-per-drop-how-do-i-translate-that-to-spray-dosage/48841/11 "2011-02-14T16:18:45Z")
Maybe im not the smartest guy around with this “rocket science” > [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > It just irks me sometimes that people will go and buy A-1 without having any grasp of the numbers in terms of “How many sprays are in a bottle and a mL” and how general mathematical division works. I have not bought A1. The purpose of asking this question was to find out information before I bought the product. I just dont understand why someone would take time to answer a post without giving an answer. Whats the point? I have done some research on the subject and maybe I have not picked up as much as someone else would have. Should I not be able to ask a question? Im not making anymore out of this. Thank you to those who helped me. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 5:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-dropper-bottle-2mcg-per-drop-how-do-i-translate-that-to-spray-dosage/48841/12 "2011-02-14T17:32:41Z")
Well we all started to learn about mones somewhere. My way of thinking is the only stupid question is the one unasked. I know that there is a ton of information in this forum about all sorts of things. Its a lot to take in. Asking doesn’t make you stupid. Not asking does. Some people have the patience to teach or explain and some people dont. When you finally get through reading this whole forum you will see me answering the same question over and over and over with a smile LOL. I have tremendous patience. You still didnt clarify your post though. I was thinking you planned on adding it to a carrier or another product. Are you just looking to transfer it into a bottle for spraying with nothing else added ? This way if you took 5 ml of the 2mcg A1 and put it in a to-go size bottle that would be 500 mcg’s of A1 divided by 40 sprays would be 12.5 mcg per spray. Its in a DPG carrier so it should spray fine. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![bb151515](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@bb151515](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bb151515)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 6:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-dropper-bottle-2mcg-per-drop-how-do-i-translate-that-to-spray-dosage/48841/13 "2011-02-14T18:07:21Z")
I was not planning on wearing it as a standalone. Im not sure if I should mix it in a togo bottle or just spray A1 first and then cover it with another product. “This way if you took 5 ml of the 2mcg [A1](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/) and put it in a to-go size bottle that would be 500 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) 's of [A1](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/) divided by 40 sprays would be 12.5 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) per spray. Its in a [DPG](https://pheromonelabs.com/) carrier so it should spray fine.” this help me alot. thank you.