# A314 Advice? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 16, 2009, 5:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-advice/26137 "2009-02-16T05:50:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ranma5080](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/edb3f5/32.png) [@ranma5080](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ranma5080)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 5:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-advice/26137/1 "2009-02-16T05:50:34Z")
Hi. I ordered A314 a few days ago, but I’m having second thoughts (haven’t received it yet). After reading about [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), and its similarities/differences to A314, I’m wondering if I should have ordered that instead. I’ve read a bunch of posts about the differences, but I’m still undecided. I’m 25 and would like the respect without the overly serious side for social situations (not for work). I think Instant Gentleman does that. But I’d also like a bit of the “follow the leader” aspect. A314 has that, but I don’t think Instant Gentleman does that, right? I’d also like to be approachable, but with A314 I’d have to work at breaking down barriers, right? I don’t think I’d have to do that with Instant Gentleman. I guess what I’m asking is, would I be able to do **all** that with either A314 or Instant Gentleman, or am I asking for too much? If I use only a little A314, would I be able to avoid the side effects I mentioned? Am I too young for A314? Will people my age not approach me with it on? ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 6:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-advice/26137/2 "2009-02-16T06:52:05Z")
At 25, I think you are not too young for A314. To get the leader, respect effect without having the social barrier, use it together with IO. IO will add the social effect, making people want to talk to you. ---
**Author:** ![ranma5080](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/edb3f5/32.png) [@ranma5080](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ranma5080)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 7:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-advice/26137/3 "2009-02-16T07:27:29Z")
> [@jamesbonded](#): > > At 25, I think you are too young for A314. To get the leader, respect effect without having the social barrier, use it together with IO. IO will add the social effect, making people want to talk to you. So [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) wouldn’t do something similar to that combo? ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 9:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-advice/26137/4 "2009-02-16T09:52:41Z")
There are guys younger than you who use A314 successfully, equally there are guys older who can’t use it. If you are reasonably confident in yourself, you should be fine. The main thing to remember is that people are even less likely to approach you, it will be up to you to break the ice and show them that they are accepted into your circle. PM Steve, get the password to the A314 section and read up on it, there’s no great secret, just portray confidence and talk to people. ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 10:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-advice/26137/5 "2009-02-16T10:16:30Z")
> [@ranma5080](#): > > So Instant Gentleman wouldn’t do something similar to that combo? I meant you are not too young for A314. Wrong typing, sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 10:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-advice/26137/6 "2009-02-16T10:21:49Z")
I would never use A314 in social situations or dates as a standalone. It’s great for enhancing a command structure at work and creating “professional” distance. Not so good for making friends or lovers. Hell, even at work I normally use it with SOE and TAA. I like it friendly but respectful. However, it does lighten up nicely with several big zaps of alpha androstenol and TAA based products. I think IG can take on a similar vibe if you add a little androstenone for a suggestion of badass. With all that said, ultimately your persona steers the mones you wear. In other words, you can act really personable and friendly and counteract some of the formal distance of A314. However, you want your mone signature to work with you, not against you. Wearing the wrong sig for the occasion is sorta like dressing like a janitor when you want everyone to believe you’re the CEO. ---
**Author:** ![ranma5080](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/edb3f5/32.png) [@ranma5080](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ranma5080)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 4:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-advice/26137/7 "2009-02-16T16:24:15Z")
Thanks, guys! I’m actually thinking I’d be better off with [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), especially since I’m just starting out. I just wish I could get some of the “alpha male” element to it. I guess I’m looking for a product in between A314 and IG. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-advice/26137/8 "2009-02-16T18:21:07Z")
> [@ranma5080](#): > > Thanks, guys! I’m actually thinking I’d be better off with Instant Gentleman, especially since I’m just starting out. I just wish I could get some of the “alpha male” element to it. I guess I’m looking for a product in between A314 and IG. **Like I wrote above, merely add androstenone to IG and its “alpha” vibe increases.** Androsterone, the primary mone in both A314 and IG is an alpha enhancing mone. However it imparts more of a mature, peaceful alpha authority, fatherly if you will. By adding a wee bit of androstenone you’re basically saying I’m also a bassass with a hard dick. Pretty simple application: add a zap of TE or TUTH to IG and you’re done. Can’t get much simpler than that. ---
**Author:** ![Trainwreck](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/trainwreck/32/1517_2.png) [@Trainwreck](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Trainwreck)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 9:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-advice/26137/9 "2009-02-16T21:42:12Z")
> [@ranma5080](#): > > Thanks, guys! I’m actually thinking I’d be better off with Instant Gentleman, especially since I’m just starting out. I just wish I could get some of the “alpha male” element to it. I guess I’m looking for a product in between A314 and IG. I just use both. works amazing for me. add a lil shine or openness too it and your golden. I usually use about 2 drops of a313 and 2 sprays of IG. Then around 3 of shine. thats my daytime mix that i put on almost every day after i shower. ---
**Author:** ![ranma5080](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/edb3f5/32.png) [@ranma5080](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ranma5080)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 10:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-advice/26137/10 "2009-02-16T22:13:40Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > **Like I wrote above, merely add androstenone to IG and its “alpha” vibe increases.** Androsterone, the primary mone in both A314 and IG is an alpha enhancing mone. However it imparts more of a mature, peaceful alpha authority, fatherly if you will. By adding a wee bit of androstenone you’re basically saying I’m also a bassass with a hard dick. Pretty simple application: add a zap of TE or TUTH to IG and you’re done. Can’t get much simpler than that. I don’t think I’d like the “bad ass” side to it, though. I’d like to have a more gentle tone to it, unless what you’re saying is, that it wouldn’t be too bad because of the IG? ---
**Author:** ![ranma5080](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/edb3f5/32.png) [@ranma5080](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ranma5080)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 10:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-advice/26137/11 "2009-02-16T22:14:31Z")
> [@Trainwreck](#): > > I just use both. works amazing for me. add a lil shine or openness too it and your golden. I usually use about 2 drops of a313 and 2 sprays of IG. Then around 3 of shine. thats my daytime mix that i put on almost every day after i shower. That sounds interesting. And it gives you exactly what I was talking about? ---
**Author:** ![Trainwreck](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/trainwreck/32/1517_2.png) [@Trainwreck](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Trainwreck)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 10:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-advice/26137/12 "2009-02-16T22:36:16Z")
> [@ranma5080](#): > > I don’t think I’d like the “bad ass” side to it, though. I’d like to have a more gentle tone to it, unless what you’re saying is, that it wouldn’t be too bad because of the IG? It all depends on your self. you can be a bad ass, and people will stay clear. but if you start talking to them they become less shy. ive never really put out the bad ass vibe, since im a nice guy anyways. havent had the problem with people being shy with me tho. IG might help out with that aspect of it. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 11:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-advice/26137/13 "2009-02-16T23:06:37Z")
> [@ranma5080](#): > > I don’t think I’d like the “bad ass” side to it, though. I’d like to have a more gentle tone to it, unless what you’re saying is, that it wouldn’t be too bad because of the IG? Realize, if you want an alpha air, even while wearing badass mones like androsterone/androstenone mixes, you have to assume a commanding persona. A passive approach is incongruent with your mone signature and may make you look like a lone wolf or criminal (dangerous vibe–no smiles or verbal frills). People will ignore you and step aside. Sheesh, mones just get you in the ball park. They impart a mere edge but don’t paint in the details. You do. You still gotta do the acting and grunt work. It’s still mostly about you. You can wear a spoonful of androstenone and come off as a girly-boy or a badass drill sarg or traffic cop. It’s all about how you work your assets. And, yes, women often do prefer badboys…