# A314 alternatives? Not so fast... **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 8, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-alternatives-not-so-fast/53667 "2011-12-08T14:23:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Universe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/universe/32/1239_2.png) [@Universe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Universe)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-alternatives-not-so-fast/53667/1 "2011-12-08T14:23:32Z")
Since times are tough right now, I’m no longer able to pay the $110 for A314. So I started looking for some alternatives. I’ve never purchased a non-Androtics product, because I’ve always been happy here, but the price increase is just too much for me. After doing a little research, I ended up ordering a bottle of TRUE Alpha for a mere $25. Great, right? **Wrong.** I placed my order on November 28th and still haven’t heard a word from them. The last status update was on November 29th and it said “Awaiting Shipment”. Pretty disappointing considering I paid $9.99 for shipping (USPS Priority Mail). A314 may be 4x more expensive than TRUE Alpha, but at least I know that it will get here on time. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 2:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-alternatives-not-so-fast/53667/2 "2011-12-08T14:27:56Z")
True are one of the firms that don’t get discussed here. If you do a little more research you may find out why - Spamming and stooge posters trying to get the lowdown on commercially sensitive info are the more obvious misbehaviour. Don’t be surprised if this thread gets binned soon. ---
**Author:** ![Rattlesnake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Rattlesnake](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rattlesnake)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 2:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-alternatives-not-so-fast/53667/3 "2011-12-08T14:54:41Z")
Just contact them via their forum, they should sort it out. Try the live support thingy they have. ---
**Author:** ![Universe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/universe/32/1239_2.png) [@Universe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Universe)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-alternatives-not-so-fast/53667/4 "2011-12-08T18:35:28Z")
> [@Overdose on one shot of AMMO](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdose-on-one-shot-of-ammo/32246/7): > > Just contact them via their forum, they should sort it out. Try the live support thingy they have. Yeah, so I did that, and big failure on their part. Here’s a post I made about it on another forum: > [@](#): > > I normally buy A314, but with the recent price hike from $70 to $110, I can’t afford it anymore. So after being a loyal Androtics customer for over 2 years, I finally decided to try another company. > > Big mistake. > > I placed an order with True Pheromones on 11/28/2011. I paid $9.99 for USPS priority shipping. They charged my credit card on 11/29/2011. Now, 10 days later…turns out they never shipped my order. > > I contacted customer service, and their response was as follows: “Sorry, there was a delay in shipping. But we’ll ship it out tomorrow!” > > I asked for a refund on the shipping costs since it fell way outside the stated shipping time of 3-5 days. They said, “Sorry, we can’t refund your shipping costs because you used a coupon on the order. But we’ll ship it out tomorrow!” > > Needless to say, I canceled my entire order on the spot. I explained to the woman (Demetra) that she could have potentially gained a loyal customer by treating me right, but instead chose to lose my business over a $9.99 shipping charge. > > Androtics may have problems of their own, but at least when I order from them, I KNOW that my shipments will arrive on time. And their customer service has been spot on over the years. I wish I could say the same for True Pheromones. > > And I wish I could still afford A314. Any other suggestions for alternatives? ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 9:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-alternatives-not-so-fast/53667/5 "2011-12-08T21:51:22Z")
Universe, you should give me a call. I understand there are costs associated with a quality product like A314, but I can work something out with you, I’m sure 😉 ---
**Author:** ![andromun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andromun/32/365_2.png) [@andromun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andromun)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 10:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-alternatives-not-so-fast/53667/6 "2011-12-08T22:14:03Z")
> [@P97 self test at 25mcg in Grapefruit: calm, relaxed, briefly spacey](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p97-self-test-at-25mcg-in-grapefruit-calm-relaxed-briefly-spacey/32252/3): > > After doing a little research, I ended up ordering a bottle of TRUE Alpha for a mere $25. Great, right? > > **Wrong.** I placed my order on November 28th and still haven’t heard a word from them. The last status update was on November 29th and it said “Awaiting Shipment”. Pretty disappointing considering I paid $9.99 for shipping (USPS Priority Mail). I feel you on this one, but at the same time cheaper doesn’t always mean better. I’m sure there are other products out there that can compete with AD, but for the time being I’m sticking with A314 for my “business attire”. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 11:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-alternatives-not-so-fast/53667/7 "2011-12-08T23:18:54Z")
And as I mentioned many times before, will will continue to mention, if anyone ever feels as if they can’t afford something like A314 (while the benefits far outweigh the costs) just give me a call. I can work something out with you. I can’t really tell you what I can do publicly 😉, but you will be very happy when you do get me on the line 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Universe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/universe/32/1239_2.png) [@Universe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Universe)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 11:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-alternatives-not-so-fast/53667/8 "2011-12-08T23:25:28Z")
That’s great to hear, Steve. I’ll be in touch. ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 12:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-alternatives-not-so-fast/53667/9 "2011-12-09T00:50:37Z")
> [@LA area on fire o.O](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/la-area-on-fire-o-o/32032/21): > > And as I mentioned many times before, will will continue to mention, if anyone ever feels as if they can’t afford something like A314 (while the benefits far outweigh the costs) just give me a call. I can work something out with you. > > I can’t really tell you what I can do publicly 😉, but you will be very happy when you do get me on the line 🙂 Nice, but not an option for us in Europe and other faraway places. The call would most likely cost me more than what you can do to help cut the costs of the product. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 1:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-alternatives-not-so-fast/53667/10 "2011-12-09T01:40:46Z")
> [@Are some people just meant to be lonely?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-some-people-just-meant-to-be-lonely/32182/9): > > That’s great to hear, Steve. I’ll be in touch. Steve’s good when it comes to helping us out and he’s always got tons of advice. ---
**Author:** ![arcabiff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@arcabiff](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/arcabiff)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 5:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-alternatives-not-so-fast/53667/11 "2011-12-09T17:35:35Z")
> [@Yes, Yes, Yes--A314--I dig it!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/yes-yes-yes-a314-i-dig-it/32257/3): > > Nice, but not an option for us in Europe and other faraway places. The call would most likely cost me more than what you can do to help cut the costs of the product. ☹ Don’t be bummed! Use Skype … That’s what I did. (And let me tell you, I’m not a long time user of Skype!) I did use regular cell phone once and the call cost me a bit. But really, last time I called, I used Skype and everything worked fine. Might I mention, I’m definately loving the scent of my A314! Just got to try it around people, well, I’ll have an interview next week … ---
**Author:** ![blackxj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@blackxj](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/blackxj)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 8:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-alternatives-not-so-fast/53667/12 "2011-12-09T20:39:54Z")
I may have to call you Steve because I REALLY would like to try it out but same thing, times are tough, self employed…Need any website work done on trade? lol ---
**Author:** ![21wq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/ccd318/32.png) [@21wq](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/21wq)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 7:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-alternatives-not-so-fast/53667/13 "2011-12-11T07:59:11Z")
> [@P97 self test at 25mcg in Grapefruit: calm, relaxed, briefly spacey](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p97-self-test-at-25mcg-in-grapefruit-calm-relaxed-briefly-spacey/32252/3): > > Since times are tough right now, I’m no longer able to pay the $110 for A314. So I started looking for some alternatives Did you know it’s available in to-go versions? “Alpha A314 Spray (1.29B)” Trust & Respect [Pheromone for Men](https://phero.com/) :: Spray Pheromones :: Androtics Direct ([https://a314.com/](https://a314.com/)) ---
**Author:** ![SoulBoy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/soulboy/32/933_2.png) [@SoulBoy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SoulBoy)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2011, 2:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-alternatives-not-so-fast/53667/14 "2011-12-14T02:14:46Z")
> [@hey friends, new user to the forum and pheromones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-friends-new-user-to-the-forum-and-pheromones/32255/9): > > Did you know it’s available in to-go versions? > “Alpha A314 Spray (1.29B)” Trust & Respect Pheromone for Men :: Spray Pheromones :: Androtics Direct ([https://a314.com/](https://a314.com/)) Or from [a314.com](http://a314.com) ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2011, 11:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-alternatives-not-so-fast/53667/15 "2011-12-14T11:17:25Z")
> [@hey friends, new user to the forum and pheromones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-friends-new-user-to-the-forum-and-pheromones/32255/9): > > Did you know it’s available in to-go versions? > “Alpha A314 Sprahttp://www.pheromonetalk.com/studies-abstracts/y (1.29B)” Trust & Respect Pheromone for Men :: Spray Pheromones :: Androtics Direct ([https://a314.com/](https://a314.com/)) With only 40 sprays per togo, and a significantly shorter active life, the sprays are a lot less cost effective than the oil. ---
**Author:** ![Universe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/universe/32/1239_2.png) [@Universe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Universe)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2011, 3:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-alternatives-not-so-fast/53667/16 "2011-12-14T15:13:21Z")
I’ve never tried [A314 spray](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic-spray/) and never will. ---
**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2011, 3:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-alternatives-not-so-fast/53667/17 "2011-12-14T15:49:03Z")
> [@Hello from Maryland](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-maryland/32336/3): > > I’ve never tried A314 spray and never will. Results are pretty much the same, but it works better than the oil version if you’re in a cold climate. I only tried it once as the bottle leaked out in one night :-/ ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2011, 5:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-alternatives-not-so-fast/53667/18 "2011-12-14T17:19:50Z")
> [@Hello from Maryland](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-maryland/32336/3): > > I’ve never tried A314 spray and never will. Don’t rule it out - I find sprays useful as a topup on long days/ events if I need to and I keep a togo in my desk for use if I get called over to Admin at short notice to work with the high-ups. Others here have noted that the greater presence of sprays can help in hi-impact/hi-status dating/sexual mixes and although I prefer the overall smoothness of oil, I can’t deny that my own experience of sprays in dating has been pretty good! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Universe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/universe/32/1239_2.png) [@Universe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Universe)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2011, 8:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-alternatives-not-so-fast/53667/19 "2011-12-14T20:09:59Z")
ok, maybe i need to not be so biased toward the oil… never say never, right? especially twice in one sentence 🙂