# A314+ammo+IS **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 6, 2010, 12:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-ammo-is/41434 "2010-09-06T12:16:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![lloyd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/2acd7d/32.png) [@lloyd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lloyd)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 12:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-ammo-is/41434/1 "2010-09-06T12:16:35Z")
Ok, im looking for some opinions 🙂 Come the 18th ill be purchasing a bottle of A314, currently ive been using 3x ammo, 2x IS and 2x IO to go(this is for clubs btw) and 2x IS and 1x IO for work. Everythings been going superb and ive been testing aswell, pretty much found a good sweet spot so im not planning to change it at the moment. However with the addition of A314, Im wondering how many drops i should use, i was thinking 2 for both clubs and work. Or would 2 for clubbing make me too unnaproachable? ---
**Author:** ![Vivid\_Boy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vivid_boy/32/2225_2.png) [@Vivid\_Boy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vivid_Boy)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 2:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-ammo-is/41434/2 "2010-09-06T14:15:44Z")
i dont know why people talk about being too unapproachable on the mens forum…we’re men! we should be doing the approaching. Read the signals/body language and if theyre good make your move. Its nice when a girl approaches us, and its even cooler when you just naturally/mutually meet, but its the coolest when you snipe a chick across the room. to answer your question, you will have to find your sweet spot for a314. it will take about 2 weeks as a314 doesnt have hits you will notice right off the bat it will take time to notice them ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-ammo-is/41434/3 "2010-09-06T16:05:31Z")
> [@Vivid\_Boy](#): > > i dont know why people talk about being too unapproachable on the mens forum…we’re men! we should be doing the approaching. Read the signals/body language and if theyre good make your move. Its nice when a girl approaches us, and its even cooler when you just naturally/mutually meet, but its the coolest when you snipe a chick across the room. > > to answer your question, you will have to find your sweet spot for a314. it will take about 2 weeks as a314 doesnt have hits you will notice right off the bat it will take time to notice them For the most part this is true but it really is something when you display enough value that women approach you. It’s really the ultimate sign of “high value”. I mean at that point you’re in the realm enjoyed by rock stars, and sports heroes. They don’t go sarging, they go out on display and women compete for THEIR attention. As for the original question A314 communicates value and status, if you know how to act congruent you can really seem like a man of power and influence. People here have compared the A314 vibe to everyone from James Bond to Micheal Corleone (from the Godfather and if you haven’t seen in then shame on you). Personally I find A314 alone is very Micheal Corleone, but A314 plus Ammo is more James Bond. The equal portions of Anol, and None add just a bit more sociability and sexiness to the mix, the equal Rone portion means that they won’t throw off the ratio too much and kill the high status vibe. [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) is like charisma in a bottle. If you look at mones as communication tools that say "I am (insert description here)…well Ammo add’s “..because I’m so damn cool” to the statement. A314 says’ “I’m a high status, VIP Alpha Male type” Ammo says “I’m a sexy interesting guy” Instant Shine adds to either or both statements “because I’m so damn cool” I don’t think you’ll have approachability issues so long as your ratio’s aren’t too one sided on the A314 side of things and you display approachable behavior by smiling, and being socially engaging. ---
**Author:** ![Vivid\_Boy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vivid_boy/32/2225_2.png) [@Vivid\_Boy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vivid_Boy)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-ammo-is/41434/4 "2010-09-06T16:19:03Z")
Ya but I might be a newbie with the mones but I still think not everyone is a rockstar no matter how much a314 you soak yourself in. I think people have to come to that reality that girls will approach you, its going to happen regardless but they’re not going to flock you and not every girl you like is going to come up to you no matter how far up you puff your chest. You’re a man, if you like a girl you go say hi. Some girls just wont approach its not in their nature. Be the man and snipe the chicks you like. that could be just me though. I have been brought up through sports and have always been competitive and come from the train of though that if you want something you’re the one whos going to have to make it happen. getting in that zone where youre so focused nothing can stop you from achieving what you want (girls, money, scoring goals) is indestructable and guys should use that state not only for obtaining material things but just as well for girls. Every girl i ever had a long term relationship with i got into that zone. i dont think those girls would have ever approached me. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-ammo-is/41434/5 "2010-09-06T16:47:17Z")
> [@Vivid\_Boy](#): > > Ya but I might be a newbie with the mones but I still think not everyone is a rockstar no matter how much a314 you soak yourself in. I think people have to come to that reality that girls will approach you, its going to happen regardless but they’re not going to flock you and not every girl you like is going to come up to you no matter how far up you puff your chest. You’re a man, if you like a girl you go say hi. Some girls just wont approach its not in their nature. Be the man and snipe the chicks you like. that could be just me though. I have been brought up through sports and have always been competitive and come from the train of though that if you want something you’re the one whos going to have to make it happen. getting in that zone where youre so focused nothing can stop you from achieving what you want (girls, money, scoring goals) is indestructible and guys should use that state not only for obtaining material things but just as well for girls. Every girl i ever had a long term relationship with i got into that zone. i dont think those girls would have ever approached me. Oh I’m not saying it’s the mones, girls can’t pick up your signal from 15-20 feet across a club or bar. Mones might help reaffirm the value they perceived once they get close to you but that’s after the approach. Now I believe in opening and making the approach as much as the next guy but I like to lay groundwork before the approach. Gambler teaches a tactic called stealth value, myself I like to consider his stealth value tactics more along the lines of “pre-attraction” on the M3 model. Use the stealth value techniques BEFORE you open set. Now at this point she’s already seen you and is at the very least curious about you. Not only because of your behavior but because she’s seen other people including other women react to you while you display what she perceives as an nonreactive state. This won’t make you a rockstar but here’s the thing. Women value social intelligence, sometimes so much so that they can feel uncomfortable or even embarrassed if there’s a celebrity that everyone recognizes but her. The reactions stealth value goes for makes it look like you’re somebody important, (general value/attraction) but she doesn’t recognize you and it’s bugging her (intrigue). Now it’s far from foolproof but I’d say that the times I’ve used stealth value techniques pre opening…about 25% of the time the girl will approach before I’ve even had a chance to open. The cool thing about this is that the girls that do this are very confident, forward types…alpha females if you will. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-ammo-is/41434/6 "2010-09-06T17:36:28Z")
does anyone know how long A314 last? Two years? Mine is almost a year old and I still have 75% left, lol ---
**Author:** ![Vivid\_Boy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vivid_boy/32/2225_2.png) [@Vivid\_Boy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vivid_Boy)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-ammo-is/41434/7 "2010-09-06T17:53:21Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > Oh I’m not saying it’s the mones, girls can’t pick up your signal from 15-20 feet across a club or bar. Mones might help reaffirm the value they perceived once they get close to you but that’s after the approach. > Now I believe in opening and making the approach as much as the next guy but I like to lay groundwork before the approach. Gambler teaches a tactic called stealth value, myself I like to consider his stealth value tactics more along the lines of “pre-attraction” on the M3 model. > > Use the stealth value techniques BEFORE you open set. Now at this point she’s already seen you and is at the very least curious about you. Not only because of your behavior but because she’s seen other people including other women react to you while you display what she perceives as an nonreactive state. This won’t make you a rockstar but here’s the thing. Women value social intelligence, sometimes so much so that they can feel uncomfortable or even embarrassed if there’s a celebrity that everyone recognizes but her. The reactions stealth value goes for makes it look like you’re somebody important, (general value/attraction) but she doesn’t recognize you and it’s bugging her (intrigue). Now it’s far from foolproof but I’d say that the times I’ve used stealth value techniques pre opening…about 25% of the time the girl will approach before I’ve even had a chance to open. The cool thing about this is that the girls that do this are very confident, forward types…alpha females if you will. you and I need to sit down and go over notebooks. lol ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 6:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-ammo-is/41434/8 "2010-09-06T18:08:05Z")
Lol have you seen Gamblers DVD? ---
**Author:** ![Vivid\_Boy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vivid_boy/32/2225_2.png) [@Vivid\_Boy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vivid_Boy)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-ammo-is/41434/9 "2010-09-06T18:20:37Z")
nope, I dont even know what that is lol.