# A314 and Instant Shine?

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**Category:** A314 Insider's Club\
**Created:** [September 24, 2014, 8:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-instant-shine/62891 "2014-09-24T20:04:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Smellboy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smellboy/32/1747_2.png) [@Smellboy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Smellboy)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 8:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-instant-shine/62891/1 "2014-09-24T20:04:40Z")

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Has anyone tried using A314 with IS? I have a job interview in a few weeks and ordinarily I’d just wear my usual A314. But the company has a reputation of being somewhat ageist, and I’m concerned that the A314 by itself will just emphasize that I’m not a kid anymore. I thought perhaps adding IS would give me more of a youthful vibe. (Although, I have to say, as much as I like the IS self-effects, I’ve never really noticed anything but negative effects on others when wearing IS in the past.)

Anyone have any recommendations? Anything you’d recommend combining with A314 to give a younger vibe? Thanks!

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2014, 5:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-instant-shine/62891/2 "2014-09-28T17:45:28Z")

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A314/IS is exactly the combo you need in that situation - Its a more dynamic/team-centric leadership vibe.

Although I tend to work with just A314 as a workday baseline, when I need IS, it tends to be 2 sprays IS to 2 drops A314 and 2-4 sprays with three drops. Don’t spray the IS over your A314 and you will need to add 1-2 sprays topup for the IS at about halfway through your working day as it will expire faster than A314.

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**Author:** ![jimgee40](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@jimgee40](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jimgee40)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 2:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-instant-shine/62891/3 "2014-11-24T14:32:13Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> A314/IS is exactly the combo you need in that situation - Its a more dynamic/team-centric leadership vibe.
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> Although I tend to work with just A314 as a workday baseline, when I need IS, it tends to be 2 sprays IS to 2 drops A314 and 2-4 sprays with three drops. Don’t spray the IS over your A314 and you will need to add 1-2 sprays topup for the IS at about halfway through your working day as it will expire faster than A314.

Have you tried A314 with p74?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 10:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-instant-shine/62891/4 "2014-11-25T10:55:35Z")

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Yes - Also good, more of an expert/specialist/communicator vibe but good bonding and emotional engagement, esp around very difficult people. You can go higher on the [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) in professional situations where romantic issues are not part of the picture. Stay lower if they are.

Personally I tend to use A314/IH/P74 instead - because it brings the trust/bonding aspect to the fore but with repeated exposure its fallout properties can cause problems. So I tend to save that for specific situations now where I need to bring people on my side in a hurry.

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**Author:** ![jimgee40](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@jimgee40](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jimgee40)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 6:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-instant-shine/62891/5 "2015-04-01T18:06:21Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> Yes - Also good, more of an expert/specialist/communicator vibe but good bonding and emotional engagement, esp around very difficult people. You can go higher on the P74 in professional situations where romantic issues are not part of the picture. Stay lower if they are.
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> Personally I tend to use A314/IH/P74 instead - because it brings the trust/bonding aspect to the fore but with repeated exposure its fallout properties can cause problems. So I tend to save that for specific situations now where I need to bring people on my side in a hurry.

Have you had any luck with A314/P96? In my experience people just can’t say no to me with that combo. With some [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) added to the combo I am hoping the Blonde girls can’t say no. I should add I am using a shot of shine to finish everything off. Any thoughts?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 11:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-instant-shine/62891/6 "2015-04-12T23:33:43Z")

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> [@jimgee40](#):
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> Have you had any luck with A314/P96? In my experience people just can’t say no to me with that combo. With some P93 added to the combo I am hoping the Blonde girls can’t say no. I should add I am using a shot of shine to finish everything off. Any thoughts?

Not hugely - and not at all in the work scenario. A314/P96 is at best a reasonably social mix for me.

It could well be because of my age but I still need a bit of fairly overt none in the mix to get the best out of those two - And IS won’t do any harm at all.

I don’t see any problems with using [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) at all - although the few times I’ve had it in combo with A314/P96, the results have been a little confused but that could just be that I still need to get the dose/proportion right.

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**Author:** ![jimgee40](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@jimgee40](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jimgee40)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2015, 6:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-instant-shine/62891/7 "2015-04-13T18:50:56Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> Not hugely - and not at all in the work scenario. A314/P96 is at best a reasonably social mix for me.
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> It could well be because of my age but I still need a bit of fairly overt none in the mix to get the best out of those two - And IS won’t do any harm at all.
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> I don’t see any problems with using P93 at all - although the few times I’ve had it in combo with A314/P96, the results have been a little confused but that could just be that I still need to get the dose/proportion right.

Thank You!

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Knight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blue_knight/32/1588_2.png) [@Blue\_Knight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Blue_Knight)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-instant-shine/62891/8 "2017-05-07T19:00:04Z")

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I had a blatant t hit today. I have been using 314 alone for about two weeks. Usually my dosage is 2-3 drops around the neck area. I noticed my wife and coworkers extremely calm and friendly. But, mostly a lot or respect.  
Today, I decided to go with a combo. I added (3x 314-oil L/R neck, 2x oil P96, L/R jawline, 2x spray IS, throat-back neck and 2x IH spray, hands and wrist) I had to take my dog Boomer to the vet. I have to give him a prescription dog food which is very expensive. Any way as we approached the counter. There were two female/white receptionists. Exposure was approximately 15 minutes at a distance of 3-5 feet. The first lady was approximately 50 years of age. She was very friendly. But, nothing over the top. The second female was about 25 years of age. Very attractive. The first thing I noticed within 30 seconds. Her pupils became DIHL. Flipping of the hair and very giddy. She looked like she was in a blissful state. She came around the counter and hugged my dog and gave me a hug. I don’t even know this woman ! Anyway, she kept telling me at least 5x in thirty seconds that my yellow lab was handsome and kept hugging him. While this was going on there were other dog owners next to me being totally ignored.  
I had ordered and paid for a 9lb. bag of dog food which cost about $40. She receives a call and than apologizes that they only have the 18lb. bag which costs twice as much. So, I get out my credit card when the bag arrives. She turns to me with a big smile and says no charge for the larger bag ! I walk out with the bag and my dog.

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**Author:** ![tye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d6d6ee/32.png) [@tye](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tye)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 1:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-instant-shine/62891/10 "2017-05-22T01:36:36Z")

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A314 with [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) is my go to for job interviews.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Knight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blue_knight/32/1588_2.png) [@Blue\_Knight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Blue_Knight)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 2:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-instant-shine/62891/11 "2017-05-22T14:04:19Z")

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Thanks for the reply tye ! As a newbie, I have found after the past few months that same combination works great ! Adding IO takes off the edge of 314. I’m a big guy and can be a bit intimidating wearing 313 alone. But, after wearing Io or IS with 314, I become the guy everyone wants to talk to !

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 4:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-instant-shine/62891/12 "2017-06-06T16:40:54Z")

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Had a brilliant hit with just A314/IS last night. A woman ahead of me at the supermarket checkout Prob late 30s/early 40s, attractive, long brown hair, nicely curved figure.. Total DIHL - she just couldn’t keep her eyes off me for staring/smiling etc and I was responding in kind. The dose was - three drops Rev32, usual places and three drops Shine Oil.

She was so taken-up with me that she stopped taking care of her shopping and dumped a full bag on top of her milk, bursting it all over the checkout! :o 😃

After this, she was so embarrassed/apologetic to both the teller and myself but I just laughed it off - Still, the milk fountain had embarrassed her and she hurried away rather red-faced. ☹

Then, by way of apology for the delay etc and after a pleasant chat, the teller gave me ten quid off my shopping - so still a good result! 😃

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Knight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blue_knight/32/1588_2.png) [@Blue\_Knight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Blue_Knight)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 5:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-instant-shine/62891/13 "2017-06-06T17:36:20Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> Had a brilliant hit with just A314/IS last night. A woman ahead of me at the supermarket checkout Prob late 30s/early 40s, attractive, long brown hair, nicely curved figure.. Total DIHL - she just couldn’t keep her eyes off me for staring/smiling etc and I was responding in kind. The dose was - three drops Rev32, usual places and three drops Shine Oil.
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> She was so taken-up with me that she stopped taking care of her shopping and dumped a full bag on top of her milk, bursting it all over the checkout! :o 😃
> 
> After this, she was so embarrassed/apologetic to both the teller and myself but I just laughed it off - Still, the milk fountain had embarrassed her and she hurried away rather red-faced. ☹
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> Then, by way of apology for the delay etc and after a pleasant chat, the teller gave me ten quid off my shopping - so still a good result! 😃

Awesome hit Mobocaster ! I’ve been using this past week, 314x3 and 40 mcg P96. Just trying to keep things simple. It seems to be working like a charm with my wife ! Do you think I can add 1or 2 sprays of P79 ? Will that be too strong ?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 9:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-instant-shine/62891/14 "2017-06-07T09:24:57Z")

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Not so much strong, more that I’ve found that P79 can be unpredictable - it can amplify any bad aspects of a mix, just as effectively as the good.

So for that reason, I tend to keep P79 for mixes with a lot of social moderation/comfort to keep the good feelings to the fore.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Knight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blue_knight/32/1588_2.png) [@Blue\_Knight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Blue_Knight)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 3:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-instant-shine/62891/15 "2017-06-07T15:16:26Z")

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Thanks Mobocaster ! I used that combo last night ! 314x2- P96 50 mcg. P79- 2 sprays. My wife became doe eyed and continued to smile while twirling her hair. We sat together while watching Tv for a couple of hours. I can see how the P96 is helping to develop the crush effect ! I later added 2 sprays of Tuth and all hell broke loose ! Anyway, it ended up being a great night !  
I have been studying your journal and Justintime’s this past few months. I have learned a lot from you guys ! Thanks again !

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 11:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-instant-shine/62891/16 "2017-06-07T23:09:28Z")

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Sounds like you have a very effective base mix for her then - keep-up the regular exposures! 🙂

And I hope you see the benefit of using TUTH strategically - when the base mix has done its job and set the scene for later-on. 🙂

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**Author:** ![chrisepz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@chrisepz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chrisepz)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2017, 8:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-instant-shine/62891/17 "2017-06-13T08:23:56Z")

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I applied 3 drops of A314 and 4 drops of IS to my neck and met with friends at bars. They are regulars there and know more people there then I do. I was introduced to some people and after a friendly exchange, all the men kept their distance and did not try to communicate further with me. There was definitely status and respect, but I think that the combo was intimidating to the new people. My friends on the other hand handled it quite well and I was treated like a king. 4 drops of IS oil wasn’t enough buffer for 3 drops of A314 when trying to make new friends.

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**Author:** ![prettyrickyboi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/prettyrickyboi/32/1308_2.png) [@prettyrickyboi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/prettyrickyboi)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 2:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-instant-shine/62891/18 "2017-11-19T14:18:06Z")

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> [@Blue\_Knight](#):
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> Thanks for the reply tye ! As a newbie, I have found after the past few months that same combination works great ! Adding IO takes off the edge of 314. I’m a big guy and can be a bit intimidating wearing 313 alone. But, after wearing Io or IS with 314, I become the guy everyone wants to talk to !

I’ve found this to be the case with me too. What ratio do you use?

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**Author:** ![prettyrickyboi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/prettyrickyboi/32/1308_2.png) [@prettyrickyboi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/prettyrickyboi)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 2:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-instant-shine/62891/19 "2017-11-19T14:19:49Z")

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> [@chrisepz](#):
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> I applied 3 drops of A314 and 4 drops of IS to my neck and met with friends at bars. They are regulars there and know more people there then I do. I was introduced to some people and after a friendly exchange, all the men kept their distance and did not try to communicate further with me. There was definitely status and respect, but I think that the combo was intimidating to the new people. My friends on the other hand handled it quite well and I was treated like a king. 4 drops of IS oil wasn’t enough buffer for 3 drops of A314 when trying to make new friends.

Whew a lot for you age, I’m interested in knowing your go to mix.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 11:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-instant-shine/62891/20 "2017-11-22T11:33:24Z")

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> [@prettyrickyboi](#):
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> Whew a lot for you age, I’m interested in knowing your go to mix.

In bars and clubs, it can be good to go-high on the A314 and use a relatively small amount of TUTH to steer it in a sexual direction - Tends to be very tasty to more mature/mature outlook women but you need to adopt a no-nonsense and unapologetically sexual persona to get the best from it.

However it all depends on your finding your best dose with A314 first - Then you start pushing it to find your limits. 🙂
