# A314 and ISexi **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 5, 2006, 2:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-isexi/475 "2006-07-05T14:47:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2006, 2:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-isexi/475/1 "2006-07-05T14:47:43Z")
okay, heres what: i couldnt have been more excited when ISexi first appeared in the mail (waiting on the Shine,should be imediatly after) . for whatever reason, i am getting nothing. in all fairness, i havent given it enough time, i really ought to give it a few weeks time, but i was looking for those results countess and jasmin had with _feeling_ like cleopatra,lol, and all that goes with it. im probably slightly more about how 'mones affect me than how they affect others. so far ive used 4 sprays of ISexi throughout the day (2 each time). heres where the A314 comes in… i have been searching for the posts with womens reactions to _wearing A314._ im thinking wearing the A314 may give me what i thought id get from ISexi? having read the posts about how it is a slow steady strong [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) that is more geared to your **behaviour and others reacting to that** , i can see where it may not benifit. but right now all im looking for is other’s opinions on women wearing men’s mixes, or women’s mixes being customised to suit their dull noses (J/K). not for nothing, but i like the ISexi smell. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2006, 4:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-isexi/475/2 "2006-07-05T16:54:40Z")
I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure MHarris posted that A314 was not suitable for us to wear as is, and that ISexi/W was his take on a version of it for women. I think Jasmin trialled A314 though, and you can check in her blog, but I know she definitely stopped wearing mixes geared to men, certainly for a wee while, anyway. I never ever wear anything that’s created for men to wear, other than IS, which is apparently unisex anyway, but I think The Countess might well. I know she’s on holiday in July, but she’ll no doubt see your thread when she’s back in situ. Since you’re such a strong personality, you might find you need to do what several other women here did, which was to opt for Mix B in ISexi/W, as they felt it helped soften, and take the edge off them, considerably. I use both mixes, and vary when I use each, depending on how I want to come across, and they both very definitely give people a different perception of you. Mix A almost causes a stunned reaction in men, and you definitely come across as a strong, dominant and GIVE ME - NOW! Type of woman, whereas Mix B definitely makes you seem more friendly, playful, and teasing. Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2006, 5:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-isexi/475/3 "2006-07-05T17:03:59Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure MHarris posted that A314 was not suitable for us to wear as is, and that ISexi/W was his take on a version of it for women. > > I think Jasmin trialled A314 though, and you can check in her blog, but I know she definitely stopped wearing mixes geared to men, certainly for a wee while, anyway. > > I never ever wear anything that’s created for men to wear, other than IS, which is apparently unisex anyway, but I think The Countess might well. I know she’s on holiday in July, but she’ll no doubt see your thread when she’s back in situ. > > Since you’re such a strong personality, you might find you need to do what several other women here did, which was to opt for Mix B in ISexi/W, as they felt it helped soften, and take the edge off them, considerably. > > I use both mixes, and vary when I use each, depending on how I want to come across, and they both very definitely give people a different perception of you. > > Mix A almost causes a stunned reaction in men, and you definitely come across as a strong, dominant and GIVE ME - NOW! Type of woman, whereas Mix B definitely makes you seem more friendly, playful, and teasing. > > Ail 🙂 😮 from your mouth to Goddesses ears, Ail, cuz i got no stunned reaction from men, but like i said i didnt give it enough time i think. i agree that it is in my best interest to use type B, im even considering just grabbing some TAH . i even like the idea of going back and forth with both mix A and B, im not good about returning things because i always know i grabbed something for a reason,lol. oooh oooh isnt IShine the greatest? that just came in today, and i have to let my friend know, i got it for him but damn! its great! one thing though… i notice it makes me “crushy” and kind of mushy, not at all like me, and i dont know what to do with that. it almost feels like highschool again, and another weird thing… my 11 yr old got a whiff and was like “geesh mom, can i wear that???” what do i say??? LOL!😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2006, 6:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-isexi/475/4 "2006-07-06T18:18:44Z")
anyone else get crushy and mushy with IShine?☹ i think i need an ISexi x10 strength!😮 ---
**Author:** ![Scottie2Hottie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scottie2hottie/32/628_2.png) [@Scottie2Hottie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Scottie2Hottie)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2006, 6:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-isexi/475/5 "2006-07-06T18:31:30Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > anyone else get crushy and mushy with IShine?☹ Nope! > [@Lor](#): > > i think i need an ISexi x10 strength!😮 Yeah…sure…that’s _all_ you need.😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2006, 6:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-isexi/475/6 "2006-07-06T18:42:14Z")
> [@Scottie2Hottie](#): > > Nope! > Yeah…sure…that’s _all_ you need.😃 you dont get crushy because it was developed for a male. i smite you ::smite smite:: im just not getting the “im the boss” feeling. maybe its just understood 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Scottie2Hottie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scottie2hottie/32/628_2.png) [@Scottie2Hottie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Scottie2Hottie)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2006, 7:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-isexi/475/7 "2006-07-06T19:01:23Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > you dont get crushy because it was developed for a male. i smite you ::smite smite:: What’s that? You’re smitten? Who can blame you?🙄 > [@Lor](#): > > im just not getting the “im the boss” feeling. maybe its just understood 😉 LOL! I’m sure you’re right.🙄 ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2006, 10:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-isexi/475/8 "2006-07-06T22:33:02Z")
I think perhaps you’re _expecting_ too much, Lor. Not expecting _too much_, but _expecting_ too much. Make sense? When I started reading the LS forum, I got all excited about what this and that were reported to do, but I could never get the responses I wanted from what I read out of the products that supposedly gave them. (Namely androstenone based stuff.) You have to remember that other people’s experiences are a general guideline… your chemistry may differ. Your circumstances may differ, too. Not every man will get the results I get from my Seduction mixes because not every man has my chemistry, has my particular circle of friends, has my particular way of doing things. I have been thinking about this, lately… my posts in my thread about my mix being the holy grail of phero-mixes are probably leading expectation that may not be realistic for everyone else. I’m going to have to point that out. But the point is, you read about a response you wanted, and you expected that response for yourself. Perfectly legitimate, but it doesn’t always work that way. Solution? Pioneer your own mix to correct the situation, just as I have done. Where androstenone based mixes did flat zilch for me, cops based mixes kick butt for doing what I wanted. Mostly. I wasn’t looking specifically for bisexual women, but hey. You know, Lor, I think if you were still tending bar, you’d have opportunities to experiment with mones that would make most of the rest of us jealous. 🙂 Maybe I should have to teach me. ---
**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2006, 10:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-isexi/475/9 "2006-07-06T22:54:57Z")
Hey Catlord I’m curious, and I’m not sure if you answered this already, but when you make your mixes do you have raw versions of the pheremones or do you just mix the full perfume products along with that cologne you mentioned in your Seduction mix? Also what do you use to measure when you make your mixes? ---
**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2006, 10:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-isexi/475/10 "2006-07-06T22:56:22Z")
Oh yeah, also what type of copulins do you recommend? Last time I tried copulins it was the small rollon from LS. It ran out fast though so I did not have enough to adequately test it. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2006, 11:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-isexi/475/11 "2006-07-06T23:07:15Z")
> [@Rob](#): > > Hey Catlord I’m curious, and I’m not sure if you answered this already, but when you make your mixes do you have raw versions of the pheremones or do you just mix the full perfume products along with that cologne you mentioned in your Seduction mix? > > Also what do you use to measure when you make your mixes? I am not mixing the chem set versions of the pheromones, I am mixing the products I buy… lately, it’s things like [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), A314, and so on. You’ll see exactly what goes into my mixes in my thread about Liquid Lust. I use that as much to share my recipies as to record them for myself. The cologne I was adding to cover, but I think it should be applied separately at this point. I use a 1 mL syringe to measure out my mixes, minus the needle. I use both Essence of Woman and Lust After Me for copulins in my mixes, and they both work, and they both have different results. If you want a faster result, use EW. If you want longer lasting results, use LAM. I’m about to try mixing the two, and hopefully achieve a combination result - fast impact with long lasting effects. These are the two copulins products I have verified work well for me. Just be sure, if you use EW, to dilute it sufficiently. I dilute mine to 8 drops EW in 1 ounce of water, and then use 4-6 sprays of this on my forearms. It dries down to almost nothing and is easily covered. ---
**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2006, 11:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-isexi/475/13 "2006-07-06T23:20:10Z")
Ok, another thing I forgot to ask is the main reason I asked if you used raw mones or fragranced ones is because of clashing scents. Thanks, I just do not want to smell like I’m spraying too much on as I know some of these fragrances diffuse like crazy and last longer than your average cologne. At least mine do. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2006, 11:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-isexi/475/14 "2006-07-06T23:32:43Z")
> [@Rob](#): > > Ok, another thing I forgot to ask is the main reason I asked if you used raw mones or fragranced ones is because of clashing scents. Thanks, I just do not want to smell like I’m spraying too much on as I know some of these fragrances diffuse like crazy and last longer than your average cologne. At least mine do. The only thing I can think of that might cause a scent clash is the LAM, which is difficult to cover. If you’re worried about that, use EW. It’s easily covered by the neroli once it dries down. I haven’t encountered anything that clashes with the neroli so far, but you can always request your purchases be made without any cover, with the exception of IFM if I understand correctly. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 3:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-isexi/475/15 "2006-07-07T03:51:52Z")
hopefully countess will come back from holiday and tell me her experiences with A314. i know it is meant for a man but im still curious as to what her experience was. i dont think i was expecting a severe reaction, but more _hoping_ for one. i want that reaction like jas and countess, i know realistically i may not find it. maybe if someone donates some TAH out of the kindness of their hearts… okay begging is so unsexy lol 😮 ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 5:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-isexi/475/16 "2006-07-07T05:56:06Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > hopefully countess will come back from holiday and tell me her experiences with A314. i know it is meant for a man but im still curious as to what her experience was. i dont think i was expecting a severe reaction, but more _hoping_ for one. i want that reaction like jas and countess, i know realistically i may not find it. maybe if someone donates some TAH out of the kindness of their hearts… okay begging is so unsexy lol 😮 Could you elaborate a little further on how IS makes YOU feel? I always like hearing a womens perspective to being exposed to the products we use. Pour some A314 on a dude and let us know how it goes 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 11:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-isexi/475/17 "2006-07-07T11:24:10Z")
> [@sigma](#): > > Could you elaborate a little further on how IS makes YOU feel? I always like hearing a womens perspective to being exposed to the products we use. > > Pour some A314 on a dude and let us know how it goes 😃 well, i do intend to play with the A314. IShine makes me feel crushy. i start out feeling good… very good… but then it turns to an emotional i like-you-for-no-reason feeling.thats just my 2 cents. like when you admired someone from afar that you didnt know anything about. gross 😃 .looking forward to an A314 adventure. ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 2:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-isexi/475/18 "2006-07-07T14:52:32Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > well, i do intend to play with the A314. IShine makes me feel crushy. i start out feeling good… very good… but then it turns to an emotional i like-you-for-no-reason feeling.thats just my 2 cents. like when you admired someone from afar that you didnt know anything about. gross 😃 .looking forward to an A314 adventure. Well damn, I need to get me another bottle of IS. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 9:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-isexi/475/19 "2006-07-07T21:49:25Z")
> [@sigma](#): > > Well damn, I need to get me another bottle of IS. i’ll tell ya what,sigma… if i were a man, i would. not only does it make you as a guy feel good, but that crushy feeling i get doesnt feel especially controlled by me. knowing it makes me feel this way, youd think id be able to pass it off and say, oh its just the IShine, no biggie… but nooooo. mushy feelings irritate me 😃 ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2006, 1:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-isexi/475/20 "2006-07-08T01:04:44Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > i’ll tell ya what,sigma… if i were a man, i would. > not only does it make you as a guy feel good, but that crushy feeling i get doesnt feel especially controlled by me. knowing it makes me feel this way, youd think id be able to pass it off and say, oh its just the IShine, no biggie… but nooooo. mushy feelings irritate me 😃 Sounds a little over the top lol. Mushy women isn’t always a good thing in my experiences. IS = Instant Stalker ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2006, 1:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-isexi/475/21 "2006-07-08T01:12:17Z")
> [@sigma](#): > > Sounds a little over the top lol. Mushy women isn’t always a good thing in my experiences. > > IS = Instant Stalker I can vouch for the stalker-esque responses some women have to IShine. Instant insanity. It’s like they literally become addicted to the scent, and they want to eat it. And whatever it’s on. Not that Lor likes eating it, but the two women I have met who had that sort of response tried to eat it off me. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-isexi/475.md?page=2)