# A314 = Andre the Giant??? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 27, 2007, 10:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-andre-the-giant/3374 "2007-04-27T22:34:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ematt10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ematt10/32/525_2.png) [@ematt10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ematt10)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2007, 10:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-andre-the-giant/3374/1 "2007-04-27T22:34:06Z")
I’ve had A314 for a few weeks now and I’ve noticed that when I wear it I am constantly getting comments on how I look taller and/or bigger than usual. I usually keep it to 2-3 drops. 1 shared between my wrists 1 on upper chest 1 on my chin. Anyone else get this? It only happens when I wear A314. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/e/e1cfbb5a99fec523aa039560bf31da816ec4e120.jpeg) P.S. The Princess Bride is the best movie EVER! ---
**Author:** ![HotMama](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hotmama/32/1786_2.png) [@HotMama](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HotMama)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2007, 12:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-andre-the-giant/3374/2 "2007-04-28T00:50:27Z")
So here’s real test for anyone out there that has passed with flying colors!! I gave my husband a bottle of A314, and told him it’s a natural herbal oil that’s supposed to help with confidence (not that he lacks any, but what the heck, I had to say something without revealing what it is and what it does). After about 3 weeks of using 3 drops, here’s what he had to say without reading ANYTHING about it: “It does make me feel more confident. It’s a “sit up straight” kind of confidence” I could NOT believe my ears because that is what people on this forum have been saying, and he has not been on it, I am sure of it. One time, he went to 4 drops due to my suggestion, and, actually that was a too strong of a dose for him. He ended up having a confrontation with someone that day, and he is usually not that kind of person. So, bottom line, if you feel too cocky, go back one drop 😃. What a great product, though.. I still cannot believe his comment. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2007, 1:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-andre-the-giant/3374/3 "2007-04-28T01:02:32Z")
> [@HotMama](#): > > … here’s what he had to say without reading ANYTHING about it: > > “It does make me feel more confident. It’s a “sit up straight” kind of confidence” > > I could NOT believe my ears because that is what people on this forum have been saying, and he has not been on it, I am sure of it. sniff … sniff … sniff You didn’t trust us??? 😕 😉 ---
**Author:** ![HotMama](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hotmama/32/1786_2.png) [@HotMama](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HotMama)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2007, 1:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-andre-the-giant/3374/4 "2007-04-28T01:03:40Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > sniff … sniff … sniff > > You didn’t trust us??? 😕 > > 😉 Well, you know.. nothing personal 😃 It’s the researcher in me.. ---
**Author:** ![zedster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zedster/32/1715_2.png) [@zedster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zedster)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2007, 1:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-andre-the-giant/3374/5 "2007-04-28T01:33:39Z")
> [@ematt10](#): > > P.S. The Princess Bride is the best movie EVER! Seconded. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2007, 1:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-andre-the-giant/3374/6 "2007-04-28T01:42:04Z")
> [@](#): > > “It does make me feel more confident. It’s a “sit up straight” kind of confidence” With regular dosages he’ll get used to it and the feeling will fade. After all, it is only a feeling. I like to wear A314 for the edge it brings to communication and interaction with my students and colleagues. True confidence is a state of mind that originates from within, and is a synthesis of moral fiber, hard won accompliment and sheer determination. Edit: this is my first post with 2 paragraphs to make it through the net nanny the last 3 days! Hallelujah! ---
**Author:** ![HotMama](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hotmama/32/1786_2.png) [@HotMama](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HotMama)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2007, 2:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-andre-the-giant/3374/7 "2007-04-28T02:23:38Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > I like to wear A314 for the edge it brings to communication and interaction with my students and colleagues. Yes, I understand your comment. But can you elaborate on the above, please? Examples, etc.? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2007, 2:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-andre-the-giant/3374/8 "2007-04-28T02:58:05Z")
Mama, people seem to pay attention better, hanging on every word I speak. When I make a suggestion or instruct them to do something, they tend to obey rather than letting it blow out the other ear. Now I’m a full professor, a smooth talker and can be rather commanding (in a gentle way), but A314 helps keep those listening focused and on course. In other words, people take you a little more seriously. I think if you’re in a position of authority and act the part, A314 imparts a nice edge to your persona without being overbearing or threatening. I’m guessing if you’re not in a position of authority and/or don’t enact the role, it won’t do jack or might even broadcast a dishonest or confusing vibe. Perhaps it’s due to my age and/or race, but I find I need to wear at least 5 or 6 drops to observe real changes in behavior around me. And I have never–not once–had even a hint of confrontation with students or colleagues while wearing A314. Of course I’m probably one of the slowest persons on the planet to anger. If someone does cross me I still won’t get angry–I’ll get even. Later I’ll plot with a cool and clear head exceedingly dirty ways to avenge them and their kin unto the 7th generation (an Asian thing). ---
**Author:** ![rsands](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rsands/32/1471_2.png) [@rsands](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rsands)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2007, 8:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-andre-the-giant/3374/9 "2007-04-28T20:56:06Z")
Hahaha, remind me never to get on your bad side Gegogi. Anyway, the first time I wore A314 one of my friends told me that I looked taller. So Ematt10’s experience has been consistent with my own. I’m a 22 year old white male, so 1 drop does the trick. I usually add a little scented oil from the Body Shop over top, that way you still get the results with a good smell. Also, I think I must produce a lot of None on my own becuase I can easily OD on A314 to the point where people won’t even look at me. So I figured out I can use 1 drop from Monday through Thursday and then take a break on Friday through to Sunday, and that’s with regular scrubbing every morning. I only apply it to the sides of my neck and up behind my ears, and it works great. ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 12:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-andre-the-giant/3374/10 "2007-05-15T00:46:20Z")
> [@rsands](#): > > … > > Also, I think I must produce a lot of None on my own becuase I can easily OD on A314 to the point where people won’t even look at me. So I figured out I can use 1 drop from Monday through Thursday and then take a break on Friday through to Sunday, and that’s with regular scrubbing every morning. I only apply it to the sides of my neck and up behind my ears, and it works great. a314 is mostly -rone, not -none. And I understand, as noted above, difficult to OD on or produce “I’m invisible” results. If they don’t look at you perhaps it’s because you are perceived as TOO superior to them??? Don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 1:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-andre-the-giant/3374/11 "2007-05-15T01:46:14Z")
> [@Rbt](#): > > A314 is mostly -Androsterone, not -none. And I understand, as noted above, difficult to OD on or produce “I’m invisible” results. If they don’t look at you perhaps it’s because you are perceived as TOO superior to them??? Don’t know. Do you have a reference (or forum link) to back this up? I’m pretty sure a314 has both but I’d guess that it’s -none heavy. ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 2:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-andre-the-giant/3374/12 "2007-05-15T02:14:25Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > Do you have a reference (or forum link) to back this up? I’m pretty sure A314 has both but I’d guess that it’s -none heavy. Not -none heavy at all. The Boss MHarris is close-mouthed about the exact formulations of Androtics products (trade secrets and all), but has made references to some of the “core” ingredients. For example check these posts: > [@Hello, another Newbie!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/16): > > It would be highly dosage dependent with Alpha Androstenol. A super high dose product like Spaceland, I can see coming down either adults or children. More reasonable dosages, though, makes adults chatty, and therefore I’m not surprised two sprays of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) made your child more “expressive”. Instant Honesty gives people a much more “serious” (in terms of content), mellow type expression, more than “off the wall” or babbling that Alpha Androstenol can bring. More like a warm, cozy con… > [@MX102 experimental A314 mix 1: early user experiences, no effect yet, dosing tips](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx102-experimental-a314-mix-1/521/29): > > Androstenol not being sexual, depends on how you look at it. I think it is “indirectly” sexual. For instance, ANY pheromone is the end result of hormone metabolism. Therefore, ANY pheromone acts as an exogenous marker of hormone metabolism. i.e., the more pheromones you use, of any kind, the more you’re saying to other people “hey, my body makes lots of hormones” That is indirectly sexual, as it indicates good health, and good health as indicated by hormone and pheromone output often goes h… You will notice he says a314 is primarily -RONE based, and in other posts makes mention that you may need to ADD androsteNONE to an a314 application to get certain “sexual” results. Other sites (eg [pherolibrary.com](http://pherolibrary.com)) have also referenced -rone as the “male/fatherly/leader” vibe [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/), and -none as the “aggressive/sex” vibe pheromone. a314 is the former type. ---
**Author:** ![tye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d6d6ee/32.png) [@tye](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tye)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 2:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-andre-the-giant/3374/13 "2007-05-15T02:24:11Z")
i think i’m growing a foot a day.i could bath in a314!! i use any were from 5 to 10 drops a day because i love the way it makes me feel and i love the smell. social interactions have improved big time with effortless communication and cooperation from a variaty of ages, job levels,and social status [both male and female] i told my boss a better way to organize his work day and he almost seemed scared of me dihl big time!! he came back and thanked me later for showing him him a better way.[can we say PROMOTION?] so far i’ve had NO negative results with large doses. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 3:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-andre-the-giant/3374/14 "2007-05-15T03:04:28Z")
> [@Rbt](#): > > Not -none heavy at all. The Boss MHarris is close-mouthed about the exact formulations of Androtics products (trade secrets and all), but has made references to some of the “core” ingredients. > > For example check these posts: > > [Hello, another Newbie! - #16 by MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/16) > > [MX102 experimental A314 mix 1: early user experiences, no effect yet, dosing tips](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx102-experimental-a314-mix-1/521/29) > > You will notice he says a314 is primarily -RONE based, and in other posts makes mention that you may need to ADD androsteNONE to an a314 application to get certain “sexual” results. > > Other sites (eg [pherolibrary.com](http://pherolibrary.com)) have also referenced -rone as the “male/fatherly/leader” vibe pheromone, and -none as the “aggressive/sex” vibe pheromone. a314 is the former type. Thank you for the references. I agree with the pherolibrary descriptions and your characterization of a314. However, that doesn’t determine the none/rone ratios. MHarris both describes a314 as “highly refined -none” and “-rone based.” I’m afraid both those descriptions leave the ratios up in the air. > [@Hello, another Newbie!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/16): > > Things that androsterone (A314, Chemical Romance) or TAL (Instant Sexiness) based might be good around not so easy to control kids, too. I know they work well around not so easy to tame adults! 🙂 > [@MX102 experimental A314 mix 1: early user experiences, no effect yet, dosing tips](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx102-experimental-a314-mix-1-early-user-experiences-no-effect-yet-dosing-tips/521/29): > > … > You want long term sex, though, or someone to cohabitate with or marry, throw -Androsterone into that mix and reduce the -none. > > A314 is highly refined -none that doesn’t put out the “Walk all over Me, I’m Mr. Rogers” type prescence that Androsterone alone can sometimes do on some men. I think it may take a relatively small amount of -rone to tame the -none. The way to find out is to start playing with the ratios to reproduce the effect. However, there are a lot of things higher on my list before I get to that. If a314 goes off the market then recreating it will move considerably higher up on my list of priorities. ---
**Author:** ![ash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@ash](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ash)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 1:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-andre-the-giant/3374/15 "2007-05-15T13:44:08Z")
I don’t believe there is any -none in A314, I think it was a typo on mharris’s part and he meant -rone, look at the context you quoted. Since people can wear even large amounts of A314 and because it is non-sexual, it again probably does not contain -none. Furthermore, the ghost effect from an OD is a -rone OD, which makes you DHV so high nobody will look at you because they are unworthy. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 1:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-andre-the-giant/3374/16 "2007-05-15T13:46:51Z")
> [@ash](#): > > I don’t believe there is any -none in A314, I think it was a typo on mharris’s part and he meant -Androsterone, look at the context you quoted. Since people can wear even large amounts of A314 and because it is non-sexual, it again probably does not contain -none. Furthermore, the ghost effect from an OD is a -Androsterone OD, which makes you DHV so high nobody will look at you because they are unworthy. Perhaps you guys are right. In any case it’s a wonderful mix, whatever it contains. ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 12:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-andre-the-giant/3374/17 "2007-05-16T00:33:39Z")
Hopefully Jasmin will chime in with some comments… ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 7:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-andre-the-giant/3374/18 "2007-08-30T07:52:30Z")
_bump_ As far as I’m aware, a314 does include -none…