# A314 = Andre the Giant???

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [April 27, 2007, 10:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-andre-the-giant/3374 "2007-04-27T22:34:06Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 3:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-andre-the-giant/3374/14 "2007-05-15T03:04:28Z")

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> [@Rbt](#):
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> Not -none heavy at all. The Boss MHarris is close-mouthed about the exact formulations of Androtics products (trade secrets and all), but has made references to some of the “core” ingredients.
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> For example check these posts:
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> [Hello, another Newbie! - #16 by MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/16)
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> [MX102 experimental A314 mix 1: early user experiences, no effect yet, dosing tips](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx102-experimental-a314-mix-1/521/29)
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> You will notice he says a314 is primarily -RONE based, and in other posts makes mention that you may need to ADD androsteNONE to an a314 application to get certain “sexual” results.
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> Other sites (eg [pherolibrary.com](http://pherolibrary.com)) have also referenced -rone as the “male/fatherly/leader” vibe pheromone, and -none as the “aggressive/sex” vibe pheromone. a314 is the former type.

Thank you for the references.

I agree with the pherolibrary descriptions and your characterization of a314. However, that doesn’t determine the none/rone ratios. MHarris both describes a314 as “highly refined -none” and “-rone based.” I’m afraid both those descriptions leave the ratios up in the air.

> [@Hello, another Newbie!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/16):
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> Things that androsterone (A314, Chemical Romance) or TAL (Instant Sexiness) based might be good around not so easy to control kids, too. I know they work well around not so easy to tame adults! 🙂

> [@MX102 experimental A314 mix 1: early user experiences, no effect yet, dosing tips](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx102-experimental-a314-mix-1-early-user-experiences-no-effect-yet-dosing-tips/521/29):
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> …  
> You want long term sex, though, or someone to cohabitate with or marry, throw -Androsterone into that mix and reduce the -none.
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> A314 is highly refined -none that doesn’t put out the “Walk all over Me, I’m Mr. Rogers” type prescence that Androsterone alone can sometimes do on some men.

I think it may take a relatively small amount of -rone to tame the -none. The way to find out is to start playing with the ratios to reproduce the effect. However, there are a lot of things higher on my list before I get to that. If a314 goes off the market then recreating it will move considerably higher up on my list of priorities.

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