# A314 at a college bar: women seemed distant, advice on the combo **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 1, 2010, 6:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-at-a-college-bar-women-seemed-distant-advice-on-the-combo/37459 "2010-04-01T18:21:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Marko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dbc845/32.png) [@Marko](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marko)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 6:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-at-a-college-bar-women-seemed-distant-advice-on-the-combo/37459/1 "2010-04-01T18:21:52Z")
First off, if you’ve read my journal you’ll know I believe mones are meant to help not do all the work for you. I’ve been using for the past week with GREAT results, but had a test run at the bar with A314 and things were not great. I used: 2 drops A314 1/2 spray TUTH (TO GO) 1 spray IS (2x) (TO GO) 2 sprays IO I opened on just about everyone, but I felt some distance from the ladies I had just met. Several times it felt like they were uncomfortable and were trying to get away. I did make good conversation with 7 - 10 people and guys especially seemed to be feeling connected to me last night. Any advice? ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 6:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-at-a-college-bar-women-seemed-distant-advice-on-the-combo/37459/2 "2010-04-01T18:33:08Z")
def. too much -none lurking about, ditch the TUTH, replace with liberal amounts of [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) and P86… A314-P74-P86 can be “groove inna bottle”… ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 6:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-at-a-college-bar-women-seemed-distant-advice-on-the-combo/37459/3 "2010-04-01T18:59:53Z")
A314 tends to have a repelling effect in most social and dating situations. Basically it shouts he’s the man: they respect the man but don’t wanna hang with him. Do you wanna shoot the shoot with the boss man let alone date him? Add TUTH and an outgoing persona and I’d run from the friggen guy too. With that said, I love A314 for work: fosters respectful communication and a clear command structure. Just not so great for happy hour or dating… ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 7:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-at-a-college-bar-women-seemed-distant-advice-on-the-combo/37459/4 "2010-04-01T19:11:50Z")
it is A314, not TUTH. A314 makes girls nervous, esp those that are \<25 years old. Would not you be creeped out if someone like a professor or chancellor came and talked to you at a bar? A314 fosters that much respect. Go with AMMO or TUTH + IS + IO ---
**Author:** ![Marko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dbc845/32.png) [@Marko](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marko)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 8:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-at-a-college-bar-women-seemed-distant-advice-on-the-combo/37459/5 "2010-04-01T20:57:06Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > Would not you be creeped out if someone like a professor or chancellor came and talked to you at a bar? Funny you should mention that, b/c I went to a speaking event and had no problem talking to the professors afterwards. They were very open to me and I had no trouble commanding respect edit: An interesting question comes to mind – is A314 better for a nightclub type place? If it has some “celeb status” effect could it be useful at a more dance-oriented place? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 11:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-at-a-college-bar-women-seemed-distant-advice-on-the-combo/37459/6 "2010-04-01T23:05:31Z")
A314 = fatherly authority, not rockstar. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 11:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-at-a-college-bar-women-seemed-distant-advice-on-the-combo/37459/7 "2010-04-01T23:27:52Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > A314 = fatherly authority, not rockstar. LOL… For me, 2x AMMO + 1.5 IS or 2x AMMO alone is more close to a rockstar 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 11:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-at-a-college-bar-women-seemed-distant-advice-on-the-combo/37459/8 "2010-04-01T23:45:08Z")
> [@Marko](#): > > Funny you should mention that, b/c I went to a speaking event and had no problem talking to the professors afterwards. They were very open to me and I had no trouble commanding respect A314 should help place a student on a more equal social footing to his professors. Great if you wanna date them. Not so fine if you’re trolling for younger women as you now have the high status old dude vibe (often seen as pervy by younger women). ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 12:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-at-a-college-bar-women-seemed-distant-advice-on-the-combo/37459/9 "2010-04-02T00:16:51Z")
A314 + TUTH in a social setting = intimidating horndog Save A314 for work type settings, and TUTH for when you’re alone with a lady who wants to be with you. Stick to [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and the socials (IO, IH, IS), and you’ll be fine. ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 12:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-at-a-college-bar-women-seemed-distant-advice-on-the-combo/37459/10 "2010-04-02T00:21:51Z")
Sometimes it really astounds me the variety of effects A314 yields for different people. Me personally, I’ve used A314 quite a bit and usually at 2 drops and I’ve never had women look at me as a perv. In fact, I’d go as far as to say A314 (combined with other mones) helped get me in a relationship with 2 girls (soon maybe 3) in my last two semesters. I’d consider these girls an 8 or above looks wise so I’m not sure how that factors in. Also these girls were below age 20 so I’d say that it’s very possible to use it on the young crowd but you need a boat load of socials or some A1 which tends to remove the barrier A314 creates (in a good way).😉 EDIT: I just noticed me and you are the _exact_ same age! ---
**Author:** ![reddog](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reddog/32/2091_2.png) [@reddog](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/reddog)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 2:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-at-a-college-bar-women-seemed-distant-advice-on-the-combo/37459/11 "2010-04-02T02:00:30Z")
> [@Sillykitty](#): > > A314 + TUTH in a social setting = intimidating horndog > > Save A314 for work type settings, and TUTH for when you’re alone with a lady who wants to be with you. > > Stick to Ammo and the socials (IO, IH, IS), and you’ll be fine. Ha Sillykitty gets a gold start … beat me to the answer … Dead On!🙂 ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 9:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-at-a-college-bar-women-seemed-distant-advice-on-the-combo/37459/12 "2010-04-02T21:09:17Z")
I agree with K-train. It really depends on the person using it. I use A314 at 3 drops in my Shocker mix, which I almost always wear to clubs and bars, and it’s been a hit every time. Granted I’m sure the other pheros in the mix have a big part of it, but I think it has a LOT to do with the individual wearing the mones. If you naturally come off as a bit intimidating, then A314 will definitely push people away, even at low doses. Whenever I’m in social scenarios I always have a big smile on my face, so that probably knocks down some of the intimidation factor of A314. You could always try IG to get some -erone without coming off as too overbearing. ---
**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 9:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-at-a-college-bar-women-seemed-distant-advice-on-the-combo/37459/13 "2010-04-02T21:54:44Z")
> [@K-Train](#): > > Sometimes it really astounds me the **variety of** **effects** A314 yields for different people. > > Me personally, I’ve used A314 quite a bit and usually at 2 drops and I’ve never had women look at me as a perv. In fact, I’d go as far as to say A314 (combined with other mones) helped get me in a relationship with 2 girls (soon maybe 3) in my last two semesters. I’d consider these girls an **8 or above looks wise so I’m not sure how that factors in.** > > Also these girls were below age 20 so I’d say that it’s very possible to use it on the young crowd but you need a boat load of socials or some A1 which tends to remove the barrier A314 creates (in a good way).😉 > > EDIT: I just noticed me and you are the _exact_ same age! K-Train, you pointed something that should be kept in consideration regarding to to people in general; your experience kind of back up what Mystery’s points of view … about a certain type of lady. ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 11:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-at-a-college-bar-women-seemed-distant-advice-on-the-combo/37459/14 "2010-04-02T23:53:29Z")
> [@MVKBUGATTI](#): > > K-Train, you pointed something that should be kept in consideration regarding to to people in general; your experience kind of back up what Mystery’s points of view … **about a certain type of lady**. My curiousity is too much, so I have to ask: what kind of lady is he talking about?:o