# A314, backing off after the bar is set?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-backing-off-after-the-bar-is-set/63815>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [February 8, 2015, 4:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-backing-off-after-the-bar-is-set/63815 "2015-02-08T16:40:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![SugarBombs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@SugarBombs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SugarBombs)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2015, 4:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-backing-off-after-the-bar-is-set/63815/1 "2015-02-08T16:40:49Z")

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I’ve been using A314 as a base in all my recent mixes, and it works great! Everyone firmly listens, takes my suggestions, etc.

However, I want to convert the alpha leader signature into more of a suave sexual signature so that in the bedroom I am not 100% in control. For context, I’ve been dating the same girl for a few weeks and every encounter I wore my general mix, and refreshed when convenient:

2x drops A314  
2x sprays 2x ammo  
2x sprays of either IS, IG, or [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/)

I suppose the signature I want will be as simple as removing A314, however, should I back off slowly so not to create confusion or just change and experiement mixes with free will?

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**Author:** ![GorchFock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/90ced4/32.png) [@GorchFock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorchFock)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2015, 7:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-backing-off-after-the-bar-is-set/63815/2 "2015-02-08T19:54:29Z")

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Completely removing A314 would change the phero-sig rather drastically. At least substitute it with IG and IS is my suggestion. also, the spray version “B” of A314 feels significantly smoother and attracting in a potential romantic way to me than the oil stuff.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 12:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-backing-off-after-the-bar-is-set/63815/3 "2015-02-09T00:47:13Z")

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I tend to work by transitioning a mix over two or three days/exposures - Reduce primary elements of one mix, whilst introducing primary components of the next mix.

Of course this won’t work well with some pheros - eg IO or [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/), which weaken/confuse A314 badly, so if my next mix involves them, I would take a different approach. Normally I’d wait till a substantially different situation was at hand, like a night-out, gig or a party and have a very good clean-up and bring-in the new mix from scratch.

At 32, I wouldn’t be mixing A314 and IG in mixes - It would be one or the other. IG/A314 together is more effective for a very young man.

Another thought, could you introduce something like IS or better still TAC - Both of these will add a significantly pleasant/happy and in the case of TAC, a relaxed/playful vibe that does let her take quite a few more liberties in bed. In my case, one of the first things I do when getting home with someone is add some TAC (usually @20-30mcg) and a little more TUTH. If you are reading the IOIs right, that usually sets the ball rolling in the right direction.

IO will also reduce the effect of A314 very effectively - A spray or two of that will also tone down your status but it will moderate any Androstenone in the mix as well, which depending on the age involved may not be good.