# A314 Build UP? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 18, 2007, 6:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-build-up/4708 "2007-07-18T18:48:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![idle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/idle/32/344_2.png) [@idle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idle)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 6:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-build-up/4708/1 "2007-07-18T18:48:51Z")
Ok so i practically “work” everyday… 😃 since i got it (2-3 weeks) i have been wearing 2-5 drops of A314 every day. I apply it on the skin. I see some good results and I just cant stop using it 🙂 is it possible to build up some -none and then 2-3 drops of A314 will be an overdose ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 1:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-build-up/4708/2 "2007-07-19T01:39:49Z")
I use it a lot and haven’t noticed a buildup problem. I usually apply under my chin to keep it off my clothes, and I shower every day. ---
**Author:** ![Smudge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@Smudge](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Smudge)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 7:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-build-up/4708/3 "2007-07-19T07:50:58Z")
I think it is entirely possible that build-up will happen, even for A314. Fortunately, A314 is a completely different animal to, say, 'none. Hence, any build-up is unlikely to give you problems. If you must wear it daily, scrub the areas where you put the [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) on in addition to showing daily. It should minimise the problem. FYI, I have used something like 12 drops of A314 mutant (the white-capped, unscented one) on several occasions to purposely maintain my personal space. No such luck! Try as I might have, I just could not OD. ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 8:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-build-up/4708/4 "2007-07-19T08:44:25Z")
Build-ups actually are not that ‘easy’ to occur…it takes over a period of time and other factors that contribute to the process. If you don’t notice a significant drop off in reactions or day to day reactions being very inconsistent, then you need not to worry.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![LifeT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@LifeT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LifeT)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 2:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-build-up/4708/5 "2007-07-19T14:12:21Z")
im not sure if it’s just me, but i actually like some buildup of mones on my clothes. (not skin) when i used to work in a restaurant i sprayed 3-4 sprays of the Edge every day and refreshed every 4 hours, and i hardly ever washed my uniform. this went on for several years. i didn’t notice much OD repelling effects in all that time, just that more seems better. (im asian tho so 'none OD isn’t a prob for me) 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![idle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/idle/32/344_2.png) [@idle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idle)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 4:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-build-up/4708/6 "2007-07-19T16:10:06Z")
well i dont put a314 on the clothes.. OIL based products on the clotes…😕 i dont think thats a good idea. but i think it is possible to make a build up if you dont wash it for a day. i putted up 4 drops of a314 in the morning and i think i will put 4 more for the nigh club.. thats more than 6 hours from the first apply but does the -none builds up if you dont wash it. Last week i did the same thing(4 drops in the morning and 4 drops at night) and i end up with all the Club Staff avoiding me… and hate me… like i am their boss.. well not that i am not 😃 but every other time they act nice to me.. and are happy when i am there… thats why i am thinking that the a314 builds up if you dont wash it.. even after 12 hours its still on you.. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 5:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-build-up/4708/7 "2007-07-19T17:11:13Z")
> [@idle](#): > > well i dont put A314 on the clothes.. > OIL based products on the clotes…😕 i dont think thats a good idea. > > but i think it is possible to make a build up if you dont wash it for a day. > > i putted up 4 drops of A314 in the morning and i think i will put 4 > more for the nigh club.. > thats more than 6 hours from the first apply but does the -none > builds up if you dont wash it. > > Last week i did the same thing(4 drops in the morning and 4 drops at > night) and i end up with all the Club Staff > avoiding me… and hate me… like i am their boss.. > well not that i am not 😃 but every other time they act nice to me.. > and are happy when i am there… > thats why i am thinking that the A314 builds up if you dont wash it.. > even after 12 hours its still on you.. 😕 Same happens to me when I don’t have a shower before going out at night and applied 3 drops in the morning. I have only to reapply one drop, if I use more I get ignored and “ironically” respected by both friends and unknown people. The strange thing is that using only one drop I don’t get the same “good effects” as if I have had a shower, but I can’t use more withous ODsing… Strange huh? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-build-up/4708/8 "2007-07-19T17:57:24Z")
A314 lasts quite a long time - much longer than 6 hours. So you basically had 8 drops A314 on at the night club, which is far too much. People will indeed start avoiding you with that much -rone on you! I think 2 to 4 drops is the suggested dose - you shouldn’t go any higher than that if you don’t want people to avoid you… ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 6:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-build-up/4708/9 "2007-07-19T18:10:38Z")
We agree, A314 lasts a lot but, why does it have different effects when time has passed? It must be that -rone or other helpful pheros and substances have faded away but there’s still a little -none or -rone without buffering that lasts lots more than other parts of the formula. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 6:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-build-up/4708/10 "2007-07-19T18:20:22Z")
When I first bought A314 I tried to OD on it. Seems pretty much impossible. I wore as much as 12 drops to work and everyone was happy, friendly and respectful. It’s 80% androsterone. The remaining 20% sports over a dozen “helper” mones. The amount of androstenone is extremely small. I normally add NPA to keep from having too much of a fatherly vibe (hate that!). ---
**Author:** ![idle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/idle/32/344_2.png) [@idle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idle)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 6:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-build-up/4708/11 "2007-07-19T18:35:56Z")
12 drops… are you human? 😛 … my experience with the 8 drops was unpleasant enough. I am a very friendly person and that night people ware really avoiding me. When i talked to some of the club staff they all reacted like they have to do their job and so on… this is strange because usually we all drink a couple of shots on 1 hour basis.. and this time they ware all afraid to drink with me 😃 Ok so i just washed my neck and i will try with 4 more drops. I will write the results tomorrow ---
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 8:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-build-up/4708/12 "2007-07-19T20:13:49Z")
Most I ever used at once is 4. Also use it almost daily. But typically only a drop. Sometimes 2 for regular day use. 8 drops? 12 drops? Yeesh. ---
**Author:** ![pkc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@pkc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pkc)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2007, 10:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-build-up/4708/13 "2007-09-02T10:09:35Z")
wow… i totally od’d on a314 last night. it was out of control. the bottle was new so the dropper was going crazy. the first drop came out fine, but subsequent drops just plopped out. I had anywhere from 4-6 drops on me. It made me anxious, nervous and worried. Which was then followed by my friends ragging on me badddd all night long. People who didnt know me as well however, were pretty good about it or at least I didn’t notice any negatives wasn’t sure about positives though. It made me nervous and worried enough where i went to try and scrub it off. It was… pretty bad. Any ideas anyone? I tried to use it again today and the dropper didn’t go crazy on me again. I tried one drop didn’t really do anything for me. I didn’t notice much at least. I also threw in 20mcg of p74 into the mix, no idea what that did at this point. I was just reeeeeling from the a314. ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2007, 2:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-build-up/4708/14 "2007-09-04T02:56:11Z")
The amount of -none in A314 is so small … I’m guessing that perhaps one in a thousand would have a problem. Also, keep this in mind: on the average person, the -Androsterone in A314 and other ingredients “mellow” the -none. I’d say, the more -Androsterone you have applied, the more impossible a -none OD becomes. BTW, my “half-life” for oil based A314 (whitecap) is about 5 hours. In other words, if I put two drops on at 8am, then at about 1pm (5 hours later) the effect is about the same as one drop, and by 6pm (another 5 hours) the effect is down to around that of 1/2 drop. Your perspiration patterns, metabolism, base body temperature, climate … these might all cause your mileage to vary. What else are you putting on besides A314? ---
**Author:** ![idle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/idle/32/344_2.png) [@idle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idle)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2007, 8:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-build-up/4708/15 "2007-09-04T20:33:51Z")
ok i have been using pheromones like crazy for the last two weeks. I even wash them up so i can test up some different mixture. There is a big difference in my life… when things went bad there ware so many friends that helped me. IN every mix i Put from 2 to 5 A314 drops. I am starting to get paranoid that A314 will stop working over time for the people i meet every day. Anyone have a clue is this going to happen at all?.. i have 3 more bottles of it. and i am planing on getting like 10 more 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2007, 11:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-build-up/4708/16 "2007-09-04T23:49:34Z")
people that know you won’t vary their reaction hugely if you go phero free some days. i would mix up your signature - better not to wear pheros every day anyway, and if you do varying your sig will reduce habituation. it can be fun anyway, like wearing a suit for a change when you normally wear jeans. ozone (diluted at the appropriate ratio - I have an old 30ml spray bottle in my shower)+ nioxin shampoo is your friend for banishing buildup ODs. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 2:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-build-up/4708/17 "2007-09-06T14:55:55Z")
> [@idle](#): > > … > I am starting to get paranoid that A314 will stop working over time > for the people i meet every day. > Anyone have a clue is this going to happen at all?.. I haven’t noticed any reduction in effects on others. I have noticed a reduction in self-effects over time. ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 10:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-build-up/4708/18 "2007-09-06T22:46:15Z")
idle … I did have a similar paranoid notion for a while. Take a minute and translate what the message is that you are sending to yourself when you worry about suddenly being without A314. And, why not just try it for three or four days and see what the consequences are. You can stop using for a while and see what happens. You might ~like~ the results. (Check out some of tacitus’ remarks on phero use producing developmental learning …) In any case, there’s going to be someday in the future when you don’t wear A314. It will happen. And you’re going to be A-O-K.