# A314 equiv for women? **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 17, 2008, 12:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-equiv-for-women/17663 "2008-08-17T00:27:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![AllieCat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alliecat/32/345_2.png) [@AllieCat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AllieCat)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2008, 12:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-equiv-for-women/17663/1 "2008-08-17T00:27:30Z")
Noobie here again,… The way the description from the store reads for A314, sounds like it would be good for sales people and/or people who work in the customer service industries of whatever type. “trust and respect” phero… well we ladies have to deal in the biz world too… Any females tried it? Or is there something that would be similar? I’m ever learning 🙂 AllieCat ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2008, 12:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-equiv-for-women/17663/2 "2008-08-17T00:43:30Z")
lol, hey sweetie, I would suggest you to not get A314 since it’s a product designed just for men…but hey, if you’re curious you could always give it a go, but use a tiny tiny bit. Just keep in mind that you might pass off as a butch or get ignored (invisible treatment) if you od it. Why not try mx134 which is made just for women? Makes you look sexy, gives you the alpha sorta vibe, and makes others respect you more. That’s what you wanted after all right? 😉 And if you want trust involved pair it up with instant honesty. ---
**Author:** ![AllieCat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alliecat/32/345_2.png) [@AllieCat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AllieCat)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2008, 1:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-equiv-for-women/17663/3 "2008-08-17T01:10:35Z")
> [@msselva](#): > > Why not try mx134 which is made just for women? Makes you look sexy, gives you the alpha sorta vibe, and makes others respect you more. That’s what you wanted after all right? 😉 > > And if you want trust involved pair it up with instant honesty. I’ve actually got the [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) and Mx134 on my “wish list” for the next purchase. I’ll be starting back up to work in the late fall, and I’d like something to give me that edge, you know? It’s a dog eat dog biz, I’ll be getting back into. On a diff note… I really wonder if I can entice SteveO to let me at that newest batch of WomenMX … ya think he’d be swayed by my tale of marital misery and woe? 😉 He could even call it the “win your husband” back batch. I’ll post every detail because…well… I have no shame 😃 ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2008, 1:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-equiv-for-women/17663/4 "2008-08-17T01:30:38Z")
> [@AllieCat](#): > > I’ve actually got the Instant Honesty and Mx134 on my “wish list” for the next purchase. I’ll be starting back up to work in the late fall, and I’d like something to give me that edge, you know? It’s a dog eat dog biz, I’ll be getting back into. > > On a diff note… I really wonder if I can entice SteveO to let me at that newest batch of WomenMX … ya think he’d be swayed by my tale of marital misery and woe? 😉 > > He could even call it the “win your husband” back batch. I’ll post every detail because…well… I have no shame 😃 LOL! you’re funny!! Hmm…I dunno…I think you’ll have to take a pic in your night gown and send it to steveo if you want the advanced level, cause it worked for a few of us 😉 (no, no just kidding! lol!) The new mix package is open’d for advanced users meaning people who report very often about the pheros they use. So I think that they’ve got a point there 😉 If more of the advanced users get these goodies, test them and report them with a good rating (like whether they like the mix or not). It’ll help steveo and the pherobabes make a decision to add a bottle to the experimental section 😃 Don’t worry if you aren’t an advanced user yet. Just keep reporting on the goodies you’ve got and you’ll be there 🙂 Or you can talk to tish about it 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![AllieCat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alliecat/32/345_2.png) [@AllieCat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AllieCat)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2008, 1:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-equiv-for-women/17663/5 "2008-08-17T01:38:37Z")
I’m a bit of a perfume junkie too… I love to get samples from the big department stores. I did a google on of all things: Love’s Baby Soft. It’s still available! I used to love the smell of that. Very vibey like Pink Sugar. Sexy and “come real close and near me” qualities about it. My pal is going to get a couple of bottles of Gee Your Hair Smells Terrific from the country store in Vermont for me … 25 bucks for the Loves bottle though… bit much… I’ll try one of the frag houses online to see if anyone carries it and wont’ cost me a fortune to get it into Canada. 🙂 I’m dying to try the cops products… If I don’t do something productive soon… I’m going to have to start writing, “he done me wrong and it’s been so long” sad country tunes 😉 AllieCat 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2008, 1:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-equiv-for-women/17663/6 "2008-08-17T01:44:37Z")
Oh man, I love pink sugar too! But I try not to wear it every day or it makes me sugar sick lol if that makes any sense! I suggest you to look at LP too! I’m sure you’ll love their perfumes! I’m totally addicted! I’ve heard about those hair gel thingies too! sounds cool! LMAO! oh man, you gotta try the products with cops! you’re gonna make men/boys cry for your attention lol Have fun! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Richis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/richis/32/1756_2.png) [@Richis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Richis)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2008, 5:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-equiv-for-women/17663/7 "2008-08-17T05:25:48Z")
You really should get MX134, it really does work like a charm for getting away with appearing productive, even if you aren’t as much. 😃 But if you’re going with the A314, I would definitely suggest using very little (2 drops in my case) and pairing it up with girly pheros like Instant Sexiness A. And if you’re in the sales department, add [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) for that approachability. People would consistently gab a lot. ---
**Author:** ![AllieCat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alliecat/32/345_2.png) [@AllieCat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AllieCat)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2008, 11:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-equiv-for-women/17663/8 "2008-08-17T11:15:59Z")
Been snooping over at the store and they have A314 type experimental mixes with … smaller bottles and a smaller price. Don’t mind trying something for 15 bucks. 🙂 Also, oddly, doing an initial search for “women a314” didn’t turn up any threads, but now one shows up by Dutchess at the bottom here under similar threads. Cool 🙂 Let the mad science begin! 😉 AllieCat ---
**Author:** ![AllieCat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alliecat/32/345_2.png) [@AllieCat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AllieCat)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2008, 11:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-equiv-for-women/17663/9 "2008-08-17T11:33:23Z")
Upon reading the other thread, the poster Nunya called it the professional phero. That’s kinda where I was hoping it would lean. Naturally women in sales have their own charms, but you still have to command a certain something when negotiating/dealing with the megla-alpha male types. Since my body/perso type is more “cuddle” than business suit, I’d like to see if there’s something that can give the aura of “all business” when I need to turn that on. Knock it back a bit with something light and “pretty” as a fragrance and as Msselva and Richis said… something still feminine like Mx134. What’s that song?.. She Blinded Me With Science? … 🙂 AllieCat ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2008, 2:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-equiv-for-women/17663/10 "2008-08-17T14:08:54Z")
I’ve used both MX134 and A314 and love both of them. I’ll try to outline the difference. MX134 is completely congruent on a woman and that’s why it’s so much easier to wear and reliably get the desired response. It’s feminine but in-charge, not in a kitten-with-a-whip way but in a refined female CEO way. My man even finds it sexy on me, moreso than IS/A, another dominant female phero blend that’s _intended_ to create a sexy aura. You can take charge, get respect and be productive without having to raise your voice or be perceived as a ballbuster. People _want_ to do things for you. A314 is extremely masculine in a middle-aged fatherly warm responsible super-accomplished but would never brag kind of way. I use it primarily for self-effect, a drop under my nose: when I need to do something that scares me or makes me nervous, it calms and steadies me and makes me feel powerful. When I need to focus deeply and get things done, particularly mental work, it’s fabulous. When I’m in a business meeting with a mixed group, men and women, and I need to be taken very seriously NOT as a woman but for my ideas and leadership, it kicks ass, but still I temper it with a little bit of a feminine vibe so it’s congruent as a female phero signature. Both of them are very smooth - you feel in control, like nothing is going to ruffle you or make you lose your cool. Here are a few of my posts talking about using A314 as a woman: > [@MX 134 or A314?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx-134-or-a314/8851/11): > > I haven’t seen any agitation around A314. It feels like the ultimate smoooth and like you say, it’s “silent stronger” and in fact it doesn’t incline me to talk - by itself, it’s not the most social phero product although you can always direct it with the addition of other things. I think for women MX134 is more broadly useful. You can wear it alone and get everything going your way slight_smile without too much effort. > [@Natural cocaine:mx134 and ISA](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/natural-cocaine-mx134-and-isa/8053): > > got my stuff today (Mx134 and ISA) and tried it out at home as was not working today. I was mainly concerned on this occaision about the self-effects of both these. I was nervious at first 'case i turned into a raging mega-bitch but efects were much more ubtle than i thought. unfortunately i didnt have the discipline to try each seperately so i liberally sprayed myself with both. the word i would describe ithis combination sprayed on wrists and sniffed was ‘smooth’:cool: i was careful to self… > [@None plus Cops- hideous backlash?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-plus-cops-hideous-backlash/7914/8): > > If you have megabucks to burn, by all means get some A314. It has a little bit of 'none but it’s soooo smooth, tempered by all that 'rone and whatever other magical things they put in it. It IS power, but an in-control kind of power, the kind that only has to speak quietly and it will be done. No shouting, no posturing, no threats (= 'none). It is not feminine at all, but you can temper it; cops seems like the obvious thing to temper it with, but I think it’s TOO obviously sexual a message to ma… > [@Introducing myself!!!!!!!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/introducing-myself/7871/7): > > Here are some threads containing my posts about A314: [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-and-my-post-menopausal-mom/2211/14](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-and-my-post-menopausal-mom/2211/14)[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx135-im-not-your-girlfriend-dude/1154/39](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx135-im-not-your-girlfriend-dude/1154/39) to quote myself: roll_eyes “It seems to calm people and help them stay on task. It will keep nasty peers out of your face, and work very well with those over you in the power structure as well. Brighten it a bit with [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), if you want to show a little mercy. ;-)” "loaded with male pheromo… ---
**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2008, 2:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-equiv-for-women/17663/11 "2008-08-17T14:56:41Z")
> [@AllieCat](#): > > I’m a bit of a perfume junkie too… I love to get samples from the big department stores. I did a google on of all things: Love’s Baby Soft. It’s still available! I used to love the smell of that. Very vibey like Pink Sugar. Sexy and “come real close and near me” qualities about it. > > My pal is going to get a couple of bottles of Gee Your Hair Smells Terrific from the country store in Vermont for me … 25 bucks for the Loves bottle though… bit much… I’ll try one of the frag houses online to see if anyone carries it and wont’ cost me a fortune to get it into Canada. 🙂 > > I’m dying to try the cops products… If I don’t do something productive soon… I’m going to have to start writing, “he done me wrong and it’s been so long” sad country tunes 😉 > > AllieCat 🙂 If you like Loves Baby Soft check Walgreens when it is closer to Christmas, they usually put out a gift set with the original. Do you remember Loves Musky Jasmine? Oh I loved that stuff, it’s impossible to find now. ---
**Author:** ![AllieCat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alliecat/32/345_2.png) [@AllieCat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AllieCat)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2008, 5:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-equiv-for-women/17663/12 "2008-08-17T17:51:35Z")
Thanks everyone for the input… I might just give the 314 a try. 🙂 Walgreens eh? There’s one in Massena (where some of us Canucks cross border shop) . Come to think of it, I think that the Christmas set was the last bottles of Love’s I had. I don’t remember the version you mention but, Amazon says they carry it, and it’s in stock. 🙂 cheers AllieCat ---
**Author:** ![phernoob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phernoob/32/180_2.png) [@phernoob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phernoob)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2008, 7:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-equiv-for-women/17663/13 "2008-08-17T19:33:51Z")
Oh Loves Baby Soft. Now that brings back memories. My bff & i wore it to death. We had the spray, teddy candle, and whatever else. Im sure we wore so much there was no way a boy could even see us through the misty veil of LBS. Ok - i have a tip for shampoo. I got a sample of victorias secret SO SEXY shamp & cond. Pale pink bottle. OMG - i have NEVER smelled anything like that. peoples heads turn & sniff the air. the smell even lasts when covered with hair spray. i bought the same name perfume – um, not so much. plus, my hair (which is like a haystack - dry and frizzy) was really silky. really worth a try. does not compete for attention with pink sugar tho - so rest assured. Oh was this thread about 314? ohhh. Hey - 134 is great. i had great results at work. i tried my Hs 314 and felt weird. like an asshole or something. i felt like people were looking at me like “what a bitch” which is not me. im sorta more phoebe from friends. ---
**Author:** ![AllieCat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alliecat/32/345_2.png) [@AllieCat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AllieCat)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2008, 12:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-equiv-for-women/17663/14 "2008-08-18T12:12:19Z")
> [@phernoob](#): > > Oh Loves Baby Soft. Now that brings back memories. My bff & i wore it to death. We had the spray, teddy candle, and whatever else. Im sure we wore so much there was no way a boy could even see us through the misty veil of LBS. I kind of figured that things like Gee Shampoo, LBS etc have that “sweetness and cute” factor to them… might be a good twist on a ballsy product like A314… and even MX 134. To sex up IS/B I intend to try my old stand by Chanel Allure. I am pretty good at getting more than my share of samples… but _laugh_ … One of the silly things I miss about my wayward-husband (and TG!) is he has these blue eyes that got him samples, samples, samples!!! He’d go get something for me, say it was for his mom … and the women sales people would just pack up the bag full of STUFF! 😃 > [@](#): > > Ok - i have a tip for shampoo. I got a sample of victorias secret SO SEXY shamp & cond. Pale pink bottle. I’ll keep my eye out for this. I"m going to have to get on some of the bigger dept store websites and start perusing their frag sections. Times leading up to Christmas, Mother’s Day, V-Day, Easter etc… seems to be great “package price” gifts. After the school year starts too.. there seems to be the target market for $$$ that get spent on pens and designer jeans so they usually pack up a good deal of things in a box set. My sis in law feeds my critters when I’m gone, and I bought her her Angel… and it came with a freebie little purse with powder, showergel, a purse spritz, and something else, PLUS the lady gave me a handful of their newest versions of the products. Innocence and whatever else they have under their product name, gels, testers etc. I’m really going to test instant shine and Mx235 at this “type of shopping” 😛 LOL > [@](#): > > Hey - 134 is great. i had great results at work. i tried my Hs 314 and felt weird. like an asshole or something. i felt like people were looking at me like “what a bitch” which is not me. im sorta more phoebe from friends. Too bad I didn’t have this last night. I went to buy a golf club… of course, I don’t quite look like a great golfer (I guess I look more like I belong in the supermarket instead of the golf store 😮)… so I had to catch eye contact with a sales guy to get some service. The “men” were getting instant service. I did rather like the look on the guys face when I went to their trial cubbies and wacked the ball consistantly over 190 yards. 🙂 It’s fun sometimes to be that kind of person who fits the saying… don’t judge a book by it’s cover. 🙂 AllieCat