# A314, IG, IH, P102 and P74 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 4, 2014, 5:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-ig-ih-p102-and-p74/62743 "2014-09-04T17:03:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Username1234](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/43a26b/32.png) [@Username1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Username1234)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 5:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-ig-ih-p102-and-p74/62743/1 "2014-09-04T17:03:03Z")
I have been wearing the following pheros for daily wear and found it works very well: 2 sprays a314b 1 spray ammo 2 sprays IH 2 sprays P102 (10 mcg) 1 spray of IS However, I decided to try the following mix and felt quite beta, people wouldn’t listen as carefully as they usually do when I’m wearing the above mix, other people found it quite easy to take control of conversations. I noticed that one on one conversations were a lot more relaxed and defiantly friendly, and it affected some people better than others. It made me feel quite beta and at only two sprays of 5 mcg (10 mcg in total). I’ve read that most people can go upto 20 mcg, I dread to think how badly people would not listen etc. When I’m wearing the above mix people listen carefully and the respect and status vibe is there, but when I add more than 1 spray of [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) it reduces the effectiveness of a314 for me. Has anyone else found similar with P74? This is the mix I was wearing and I don’t think it works well if you want to have the respect and intimidation affect of a314. Perhaps the other pheros and the fact it was only 1 spray of a314 meant a314 wasn’t as affective: 1 spray of a314b 1 spray of IG 1 spray of IH 2 sprays P102 (10 mcg) 2 sprays P74 (10 mcg) Can the first mix listed at the start of this post be improved? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 11:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-ig-ih-p102-and-p74/62743/2 "2014-09-04T23:22:16Z")
You have IG, P102 and [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) in the same mix as A314 yet you think the P74 makes it beta…? A314/IG is a combo I see as only viable on a much younger guy who will suffer dissonance between A314’s overall maturity and their youth. By 30, you could be using one or the other effectively but both together will only weaken the A314 to no great advantage. Using less A314 instead will give you a much more focused but not overwhelming status vibe. P102 will make A314 more laid-back/unhurried but again, it could make A314/IG just too diffuse, possibly confusing and throwing the mix all-off. A314/IH/P74 is my absolute best mix for using around difficult people - And it is **anything** but beta - What it is is knowlegable, engaging and very trustworthy status that can get some of the most self-possessed and fractious personalities on my side, and doing what I ask of them with the least fuss and confrontation. Its a godsend at conferences and public events - although its fallout properties do limit its more day to day use for me. Its other property is a knowledgeable/expert vibe - the sort of ipression that has people wanting to listen and learn all you have to teach. And more than a few “crush on teacher” moments! 😃 Try swapping-out the IG, then alternate the other components singly till you find something more direct. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Username1234](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/43a26b/32.png) [@Username1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Username1234)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2014, 7:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-ig-ih-p102-and-p74/62743/3 "2014-09-05T07:45:58Z")
Thanks for the information and advice mobocaster, > [@mobocaster](#): > > You have IG, P102 and P74 in the same mix as A314 yet you think the P74 makes it beta…? People were talking over me, not listening as carefully, asking me to do things etc whereas when I’m not wearing [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) with a314 they never do that. I was only wearing 10 mcg of P74 and it had a noticeable effect on others, people were making jokes aimed at me a couple of times as well, relaxed enough to say whatever they wanted around me, later I washed off the P74 and sprayed another spray of a314 and everyone was immediately respectful and listening carefully again. It seems most other guys can wear loads more P74 but I can only wear 5 mcg safely. > [@mobocaster](#): > > A314/IH/P74 is my absolute best mix for using around difficult people - And it is **anything** but beta - What it is is knowlegable, engaging and very trustworthy status that can get some of the most self-possessed and fractious personalities on my side, and doing what I ask of them with the least fuss and confrontation. Its a godsend at conferences and public events - although its fallout properties do limit its more day to day use for me. I will try this mix without any other pheros and will see how it affects others: 2 sprays a314 2 sprays of IH 1 spray of P74 (5 mcg) Is that the number of sprays you use? Would adding other pheros to this reduce the effectiveness of the knowledgeable expert vibe? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2014, 8:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-ig-ih-p102-and-p74/62743/4 "2014-09-05T08:39:45Z")
That looks about fine for dose/proportion - 2-3 drops A314 (depending on Rev) and 2-4 sprays IH is my usual - P74 dose is quite flexible here but it does depend how much you can handle individually - In the professional sphere, I have gone as high as 40/50mcg where I just want it to stay professional but most usually I keep it below 20 now. Other pheros - IS is always useful, [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) will give it more presence - the IH/P74 element helps keep it from going overly severe and P83 if there is a physical element involved, otherwise the only thing I’d normally add to that is a sexual when things are winding down and becoming more sociable. ---
**Author:** ![Username1234](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/43a26b/32.png) [@Username1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Username1234)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2014, 7:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-ig-ih-p102-and-p74/62743/5 "2014-09-05T19:47:51Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Other pheros - IS is always useful, P75 will give it more presence - the IH/P74 element helps keep it from going overly severe and P83 if there is a physical element involved, otherwise the only thing I’d normally add to that is a sexual when things are winding down and becoming more sociable. I will test these combinations and see how people react to them. I did test [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) with a314 a couple of times and I remember conversations feeling very involved in one on one conversations, however, it seemed that some people benefited from the P75 and it gave them the benefits when they were talking (although they weren’t aware of what the source was). Where is the best application point for P75 with this mix so that others may be sure of who the P75 is coming from? Mobocaster, have you ever tested P84 or P96 with a314? I have tested P84 and found it to be very useful but only for two or three days at a time and then it doesn’t seem to have the same affect on others. If you have tested these with a314, would they go well with your mix of a314, IH/P74? Or would they be better without IH and P74?