# A314, IS, IO and IG all at once with little response: advice to keep it simple

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [October 9, 2011, 3:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-is-io-and-ig-all-at-once-with-little-response-advice-to-keep-it-simple/52741 "2011-10-09T03:45:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![mayro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@mayro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mayro)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2011, 3:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-is-io-and-ig-all-at-once-with-little-response-advice-to-keep-it-simple/52741/1 "2011-10-09T03:45:15Z")

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When: last Friday  
What: A314 x2D, behind ear- IS double stregth x 3S, 2s on lower each side necks, 1s behind the neck - IO x2S, on upper chest near neck - IG x2S, on chest( under shirt).

Environment: on train, bus, office environment

Temp: 25-27c

Effect on me: when I applied few minutes I can’t smell anything, very very faint smell of may b a314 and it lasted for say 15 -20 minutes may b more.  
Also didn’t feel like I m top of the world or like a king as some ppl describes.

Effects on other: didnt get any response when I enter train, but while I was waiting for bus I saw a coucation babe came near me stand besides facing me about 2 ft away, she was crossing her lags and stood for some time, I didn’t look at her to see her facial reactions, also one Asian girl Showing suttle signs.

In the office didnt see any change what so ever and my target(Asian girl) was completely ignoring me.

Conclusion: I was hopping when I will enter the venue every one will notice me. But didn’t get expected result, not sure why?

Was it because of too many product used or too many product used on small area.

I am 30 yr old indian (subcontinent) origin, do I produce enough nones and was it OD effect on me?need your help.

I got relatively good result with a314 2d sides of neck and is 1s on throat.

Any suggestion?

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**Author:** ![bestintel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bestintel/32/1883_2.png) [@bestintel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bestintel)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2011, 3:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-is-io-and-ig-all-at-once-with-little-response-advice-to-keep-it-simple/52741/2 "2011-10-09T03:53:23Z")

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> [@mayro](#):
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> When: last Friday  
> What: A314 x2D, behind ear- IS double stregth x 3S, 2s on lower each side necks, 1s behind the neck - IO x2S, on upper chest near neck - IG x2S, on chest( under shirt).
> 
> Environment: on train, bus, office environment
> 
> Temp: 25-27c
> 
> Effect on me: when I applied few minutes I can’t smell anything, very very faint smell of may b a314 and it lasted for say 15 -20 minutes may b more.  
> Also didn’t feel like I m top of the world or like a king as some ppl describes.
> 
> Effects on other: didnt get any response when I enter train, but while I was waiting for bus I saw a coucation babe came near me stand besides facing me about 2 ft away, she was crossing her lags and stood for some time, I didn’t look at her to see her facial reactions, also one Asian girl Showing suttle signs.
> 
> In the office didnt see any change what so ever and my target(Asian girl) was completely ignoring me.
> 
> Conclusion: I was hopping when I will enter the venue every one will notice me. But didn’t get expected result, not sure why?
> 
> Was it because of too many product used or too many product used on small area.
> 
> I am 30 yr old indian (subcontinent) origin, do I produce enough nones and was it OD effect on me?need your help.
> 
> I got relatively good result with a314 2d sides of neck and is 1s on throat.
> 
> Any suggestion?

keep your mixes simple man I noticed you had 4 products on all at once. If you have noticed each one of these products are supposed to do something different. I can tell you why you werent seeing result you were throwing off to many signals at once.

Start with one product and then once you get a grasp of your sweet spot which can be found here

> [@How to find your sweet spot...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146):
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> Lately I have been getting a lot of calls from guys and gals unsure what the forum members mean when we say “sweet spot.”:stuck\_out\_tongue: Here’s a very simple way to find your individual sweet spot for each consumer line product like: Ishine IH IO AMMO A314 TUTH and so on. It’s very easy to do and I hope this guide offers you the assistance you need. When applying the pheromones, please ensure that you are using only one (1) [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) at a time. This step is extremely importan…

Then after you have a grasp of what each product does separately then try mixing them in a combo.

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**Author:** ![leaf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ec9cab/32.png) [@leaf](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/leaf)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2011, 1:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-is-io-and-ig-all-at-once-with-little-response-advice-to-keep-it-simple/52741/3 "2011-10-09T13:41:05Z")

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Hi,

My suggestion would be dropping IO and IG and keeping it very simple. Try 2 drops of A314 and 2 sprays of IS plus take a shower before application.

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**Author:** ![The\_Hammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@The\_Hammer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Hammer)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2011, 3:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-is-io-and-ig-all-at-once-with-little-response-advice-to-keep-it-simple/52741/4 "2011-10-09T15:52:52Z")

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What these guys have said. Start small and then work up to tossing on a bunch of pheros. Also, in your post you didn’t mention that you interacted with any of these women. Perhaps you were in places where it was socially unacceptable to talk to the women (the train), but wearing [pheromones](https://a314.com/) itself doesn’t make you Casanova. Pheromones only magnify the effort that you put into the situation. Sure, a lot of times you will read that people have some crazy “hit” to a mix here on the forums, but those are either the result of an interaction influenced by pheromones or a random occurrence initiated by the other person (it happens, but it is the exception, not the rule).

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**Author:** ![mayro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@mayro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mayro)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2011, 10:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-is-io-and-ig-all-at-once-with-little-response-advice-to-keep-it-simple/52741/5 "2011-10-09T22:27:36Z")

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> [@The\_Hammer](#):
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> What these guys have said. Start small and then work up to tossing on a bunch of pheros. Also, in your post you didn’t mention that you interacted with any of these women. Perhaps you were in places where it was socially unacceptable to talk to the women (the train), but wearing pheromones itself doesn’t make you Casanova. Pheromones only magnify the effort that you put into the situation. Sure, a lot of times you will read that people have some crazy “hit” to a mix here on the forums, but those are either the result of an interaction influenced by pheromones or a random occurrence initiated by the other person (it happens, but it is the exception, not the rule).

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Thanx The Hammer, I wouldn’t say talking to someone in train is socially unacceptable, but i was hopeing some eye contacts, at list ppl will take notice of my presence. None of those happen except one incident with coucasian lady.  
But I felt more confident usually I m shy, introvert, but this time I wanted to talk to someone.

I m now thinking to stick religiously to Stive O’s advice and try one at a time until I find my sweet spot.

What u say?

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**Author:** ![The\_Hammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@The\_Hammer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Hammer)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2011, 11:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-is-io-and-ig-all-at-once-with-little-response-advice-to-keep-it-simple/52741/6 "2011-10-09T23:01:50Z")

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Steve knows what he is talking about. He doesn’t fool around. Of the ones you have, A314 takes a little longer to notice the effects and they are more subtle, but A314 has (at least for me) the greatest effect on your life in the long term. The other ones hit faster. You wore a bunch of instant shine. Steve has said that shine is a component of a lot of his mixes as it tends to make others happy. Maybe try fooling around with that for a while. You have double strength, so try one spray for a while to see what happens. It wears off in about 4 hours and you’ll probably get tired after as shine tends to make people “crash” when the effects wear off.

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**Author:** ![mayro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@mayro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mayro)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-is-io-and-ig-all-at-once-with-little-response-advice-to-keep-it-simple/52741/7 "2011-10-12T21:48:25Z")

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> [@smellymen2002](#):
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> keep your mixes simple man I noticed you had 4 products on all at once. If you have noticed each one of these products are supposed to do something different. I can tell you why you werent seeing result you were throwing off to many signals at once.
> 
> Start with one product and then once you get a grasp of your sweet spot which can be found here
> 
> [How to find your sweet spot...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146)
> 
> Then after you have a grasp of what each product does separately then try mixing them in a combo.

Sorry for delay, but I feel I m not that talkative or extrovert I m kind of shy egoist n arrogant (at first impresion n most of the time). Do u fill a314 will ?help? Some times I m just moody( ppl told me).

Any master formula help make me approachable?

I m trying is 2x n fill 2s is not enough so I m trying 3s today with io 3s.  
Let’s see what heppens.

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**Author:** ![bestintel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bestintel/32/1883_2.png) [@bestintel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bestintel)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 3:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-is-io-and-ig-all-at-once-with-little-response-advice-to-keep-it-simple/52741/8 "2011-10-13T03:51:02Z")

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> [@mayro](#):
>
> Sorry for delay, but I feel I m not that talkative or extrovert I m kind of shy egoist n arrogant (at first impresion n most of the time). Do u fill a314 will ?help? Some times I m just moody( ppl told me).
> 
> Any master formula help make me approachable?
> 
> I m trying is 2x n fill 2s is not enough so I m trying 3s today with io 3s.  
> Let’s see what happens.

A314 will not help if your not congruent with the signal you are portraying. No mix can make you approachable man you have to approach the woman you want.

Stick with the socials to start with IO, and IS and add IG so you don’t come off to beat

I say 2-3 sprays of IO and 1-2 sprays of IG should do you good
