# A314 + is + p74 = holy grail of mixes **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 18, 2014, 1:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-is-p74-holy-grail-of-mixes/63043 "2014-10-18T13:41:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![scmp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scmp/32/912_2.png) [@scmp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scmp)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 3:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-is-p74-holy-grail-of-mixes/63043/21 "2014-11-30T15:26:48Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > You need to be very careful with mixes involving A314 and P75 - Its a very, very fine line between P75 being beneficial and its adding a very significant oppressive/hectoring/arsehole-in chief feel that gets you nowhere with anyone. I’m guessing the P74 provides enough moderation/steering to keep the P75 sexy and masculine whilst keeping the negative effects in check. TBH, None is better here because it can moderate a substantial dose with ease. 🙂 > > I’d say 15-20mcg P74 is about the right proportion for that mix - even with IH - the synergy of this combo is something to behold. Whilst you usually don’t want to go too high, personally its 30mcg or over before the serious “best friend” vibes start overwhelming it but in a professional mix, that actually can be useful. Where you want the trust/expert vibe to show through. I’ve used 30/40 mcg alongside 2-4 sprays IH in an A314 mix to great effect - Very great effect. 😉 > > All you need to offset that after hours is a good whack of overt None - A bit more than you would normally use to take the friendly edge off the P74/IH - and a little P75 won’t go-wrong here either. 🙂 > > Save the P83 for after work IMO - unless you work somewhere its ok to get very physical with your colleagues/customers. Otherwise its just wasted. mobocaster, would you please expand on this? How many mcg of each would you use and what effects would you expect? Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 9:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-is-p74-holy-grail-of-mixes/63043/22 "2014-11-30T21:41:54Z")
The doses for P74 are there but you will need to do the basics for and test both A314 and [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) individually before trying them together - I’d then suggest halving your tested P75 standalone dose when first using it with A314. IH and A314 have a pretty huge dose range here, so again, testing in a variety of situations to see what suits you best and my age is a factor in my P75 dose - I find I can use 2-3x a younger guy’s dose in most situations but where A314 is involved, it gets cut right back to 2,5mcg. ---
**Author:** ![billo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@billo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/billo)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 8:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-is-p74-holy-grail-of-mixes/63043/23 "2014-12-01T20:59:51Z")
Can I expect the same effect as in the first post with: A314 + IS + P96? I dont think I have [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/). Or should I swap out P96 for MX463? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 10:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-is-p74-holy-grail-of-mixes/63043/24 "2014-12-01T22:49:25Z")
No - P96 is a totally different phero, neither it nor MX463 will replace [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) in any way. ---
**Author:** ![von\_phero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e8c25b/32.png) [@von\_phero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/von_phero)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2014, 11:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-is-p74-holy-grail-of-mixes/63043/25 "2014-12-23T23:26:48Z")
> [@billo](#): > > Can I expect the same effect as in the first post with: > A314 + IS + P96? > > I dont think I have P74. Or should I swap out P96 for MX463? that is a great mix btw ---
**Author:** ![billo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@billo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/billo)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 12:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-is-p74-holy-grail-of-mixes/63043/26 "2015-02-16T12:43:05Z")
> [@Treehugger](#): > > **2 drops of A314** oil to both sides of the neck > **2 sprays of IS** behind each ear **(reg. strength)** > **2 sprays of P74** on each bicep for a total of **20 mcg (10mcg/spray)** > **1/2 spray P75** on neck and under nose ( **1.25 mcg** for self effects) > **2 sprays Ammo World (reg. strength)** backside of neck > > I gave the above mix a run yesterday. I read what you said about Ammo being balanced as it is, so I decided to add 2 sprays instead of 1 and had some unusual results. I think 2 sprays of Ammo ended up ruining the total balance of the mix because of too much -none and here’s why. As the night started, strangers only but not my colleagues appeared to be a bit stand-offish. I would go up to customers and the women almost seemed to be annoyed by my presence, like they couldn’t wait till I took their order and leave them alone. Usually, I get eye contact from all of my guests, but some of the women who had their chairs turned back to me didn’t even bother to look behind them as to make eye contact with me. They just gave their order to a friend or mumbled it to me without looking directly at me. Men, on the other hand, seemed to be giving me the usual respect vibe although not as strong as with my previous mixes. > > As the night progressed, the female customers started getting more and more comfortable with me. 3 hours in, they were all smiles around me maintaining eye contact at all times, but no DIHL looks or obvious flirting like what I got using the original mix. Again, I did get flirting from older women. One asked me to “defend her honor” because her friend called her old -.-. What’s really surprising is that even though some customers were being a tad disrespectful at the beginning of the night (not making any eye contact while giving me their order or just appearing to be pissed off), I made REALLY good tips off all of my customers last night. Not just a slight noticeable difference, but the most I’ve made EVER; around **120% more** than what I usually make every time I’m there. > > I really cannot explain what happened as it all seems very unusual to me. Why would I get such mixed responses from the same people? I understand that stand-offish behavior probably came from using too much -none for A314 and P75, but why would it get better and turn ‘social/respectful/trustworthy’ good rather than ‘sexual’ good. > > Before you yell at me M&M, I will give the original combo a try next time. I promise! 😃 I just wanted to experiment a bit to see if it can be made even better. So did you try the original combo again? [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-is-p74-holy-grail-of-mixes/63043.md?page=1)