# A314, My friend the Placebo Effect, and his palls psychological conditioning **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 11, 2008, 1:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-my-friend-the-placebo-effect-and-his-palls-psychological-conditioning/13776 "2008-06-11T01:47:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 1:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-my-friend-the-placebo-effect-and-his-palls-psychological-conditioning/13776/1 "2008-06-11T01:47:25Z")
While reminiscing of past pheromone misadventures and sociological experiments, I kept falling back to the placebo effect and its roll in life. Surely it is powerful force that has mystified and astounded many throughout history. It can play the part of illness, healing, persuasion, and even to the extent of mass hysteria. I ponder, as many do, could pheromones be all placebo? A notion which is quickly dispelled by the cumulative research on this board which if compiled correctly would represent years of double blind studies via the putative series. It is hard to disprove hundreds of similar reports from [putative pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/product-category/advanced-pheromones/putative-pheromones/) by different people with no knowledge of what the pheromone should do. This was at least the case with the majority of putatives when they are first released and tested. Once the effects where dialed in, they became classifiable and from that point on the results were no longer pure. Still the initial reports cannot be refuted. Reaffirmed in the pheromone theories of modern cosmetic science, I review the placebo effect to a further extent. Pheromones do have an effect but does that rule out the placebo effect too? Yes, it must have effect. Pheromones take time to effect people who have not been exposed to a product like those sold by Androtics, or any other reputable pheromone source, however, those who have been exposed several times respond much faster, and the habitual user experiences the fastest results which at times can be almost instantaneous. When I apply Instant Shine or Taa the room brightens and I feel a mild rush brightening my mood momentarily. Some of this is due to the high concentration being applied, but the results happen so much faster than when I first used the product. There was a delay, which is no more. Repetitive exposure leasts to faster effects. The only explanation could be the placebo effect. If the former logic holds true then what a powerful tool evolution has left us. This level of reaction from such a simple stimuli combined with the right knowledge could allow pheromone users to phero-train the people around them in order to achieve a desired perception in most conditions. By mixing the proper pheromones for the right occasion and consciously exposing the same people with the same mix to effect their subconscious in regards to me, I can be perceived as I want by who I want at all times. The placebo effect will take care of the rest by connecting me the pheromone signature I chose for that person as long as I am consistent in exposure for the majority of the time I am around them. For example, I wear an A314 and Taa based mix at work. I want those people to respect me as an employee, consider me a nice person, but not be overly sociable with me. I just want to get the job done and then go home. As long as I expose these people consistently with the same signature, when I decide to not wear pheromones, I will still be treated as if I was wearing them. In addition short changes to my mix for purposes not professionally related will also be ignored for the most part as I have an established signature. Additionally, increases in strength of the original base will be greatly received. A fellow employee had acted a little more dominant than I was comfortable with as we are equals in title. The next day I double my A314 concentration and they where subservient all day long. In accordance with an ethical behavior I did not take advantage of this, as all I desired was to maintain my equality. By conditioning this fellow employee I tactically diffused a minor power struggle with the minuscule effort of adding an extra drop of a314. These results seem to only be possible because of the consistent exposure possibility presented by employment. Because not all pheromones are created for work, may I suggest a parallel. This method could be employed in any relationship where a power struggle presents its self. If in the midst of conflict one could train their partner to low level of A314 for time period (say 1-3 weeks) then increase the concentration sharply when discussing the issues in the relationship. This will allow the user to help maintain their ground more easily in the battle against female emotions and at times irrationality. Again ethics play a part. You should never try to dominate a woman. Relationships are about maintaining equal control over the relationship. Some men may be in situations where they are being dominated by a woman and need a method to regain equality. I myself am very passive and if not careful can find myself in position of inequality with women. It’s very easy to be persuaded by the influential instincts of a strong woman to a point of no return for regaining your status. I have more thoughts on using these tools with other pheromones besides a314 for purposes beyond power struggles, but they are not tested yet. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-my-friend-the-placebo-effect-and-his-palls-psychological-conditioning/13776/2 "2008-06-11T02:05:27Z")
Nice report Toil and welcome back. > [@toilofday](#): > > The placebo effect will take care of the rest by connecting me the pheromone signature I chose for that person as long as I am consistent in exposure for the majority of the time I am around them. > > For example, I wear an A314 and Taa based mix at work. I want those people to respect me as an employee, consider me a nice person, but not be overly sociable with me. I just want to get the job done and then go home. As long as I expose these people consistently with the same signature, when I decide to not wear pheromones, I will still be treated as if I was wearing them. In addition short changes to my mix for purposes not professionally related will also be ignored for the most part as I have an established signature. Additionally, increases in strength of the original base will be greatly received. Daedelus tells us this effect is called “operant conditioning” in this thread: > [@A314 and Ammo Combo Question](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-ammo-combo-question/13257): > > I use both or variants on a near daily basis. Now there is some overlap in the individual pheromones in both products although A314 certainly has more as reported and the ratios are also certainly different. My question is this: When we wear both A314 and Ammo at the same time are we sending out the two distinct signals of Ammo and A314 … or are we just throwing out a lot of signal, but one that is neither really one or the other? If it is the latter are we just sending out an off-kilter A314 … I also discuss the same effect when I shift back and forth between A314 and [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) in that post and the A314 vs. Instant Gentleman thread in my signature block. In essence, by shifting back and forth between the two over a period of time I get both the alpha respect of A314 and the “cool vibe” of Instant Gentleman. For me that is the best of both worlds. ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 2:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-my-friend-the-placebo-effect-and-his-palls-psychological-conditioning/13776/3 "2008-06-11T02:28:14Z")
In what order and time frames did you expose your targets with the two products in order to achieve this? Do you have an rough time lines for exposure? ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 2:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-my-friend-the-placebo-effect-and-his-palls-psychological-conditioning/13776/4 "2008-06-11T02:34:35Z")
Over the last two years - I would originally go with one or the other for a couple weeks but now I often shift according to what has to get done - heavy A314 for those “no shit this has to happen and just like this” days to [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) for laid-back days to MX237 (Ammo in a neroli scent - cologne is a no-no at work) when there are actually females about. I will also shift back and forth evey few days now. ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 2:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-my-friend-the-placebo-effect-and-his-palls-psychological-conditioning/13776/5 "2008-06-11T02:40:09Z")
Do you find that you have to wear higher concentrations throughout to achieve the same results that you would with a single [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) regiment or are the concentrations more quantized in nature. That’s a variable I would very much like to get more information about. ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 2:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-my-friend-the-placebo-effect-and-his-palls-psychological-conditioning/13776/6 "2008-06-11T02:48:49Z")
That effect is called an “anticipatory response to preconditioning” I believe. It’s part placebo, part conditioning. In reality, it may be more like hypnotic self-suggestion. Also, I noticed I used to hate neroli scents, not a big fan, now I’m indifferent or even like the smell. Perhaps this is a conditioned response, since I typically feel better or have more favorable experiences after using [pheromones](https://a314.com/)?